cynical lady Posted August 19, 2010 Since the troops are still there and will continue to do, despite the 2012 deadline for now hence the title is somewhat misleading; My question to you is good news or bad for Iraqis?...... The last US combat brigade has withdrawn from Iraq, more than seven years after the US-led coalition invaded the country in a war that has claimed the lives of more than 4,000 US troops. The brigade left the country in the early hours of Thursday morning, two weeks before an August 31 deadline for the end of Operation Iraqi Freedom pledged by Barack Obama upon taking office. Over the course of the week, soldiers from the 4th Stryker brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, have driven hundreds of vehicles from Camp Victory near the Baghdad airport to Camp Virginia in Kuwait. Their withdrawal brings to an end a controversial and bloody operation that began with the American "shock and awe" bombing campaign of Baghdad in March 2003, and saw the US military endure some of the heaviest fighting it had seen for a generation. Captain Christopher Ophardt, a spokesman for the 4th Stryker Brigade of the 2nd Infantry Division, said the last of the unit's vehicles will cross the border into Kuwait early on Thursday. Iraqi concerns Most of the brigade's 4,000 soldiers have been driving out of Iraq in their armoured vehicles, with a few hundred members staying behind to finish administrative and logistical duties. They will be flying out of Baghdad later on Thursday. About 50,000 US troops will remain in the country in an advisory capacity, helping to train Iraqi forces in a new mission codenamed Operation New Dawn, which will run until the end of 2011. Al Jazeera's Rawya Rageh, reporting from Baghdad, said there is now a shift to acting as "advise-and-assist" brigades which "consists mainly of training and providing logistical support". "They will, however, have the right to defend themselves against attacks if they are targeted," our correspondent said. "But they will not be stepping in, they will not be conducting any military operations per say, unless they are specifically called on to do so by the Iraqi government." Al Jazeera's Josh Rushing, reporting from the Iraq-Kuwait border, said the question now is whether the drawdown, which is being touted as a milestone, will go down in history as the end of the war or the beginning of a period of violence. "This is not the end of it. In fact, it will be a long military relationship between the United States and Iraq long after all US troops have pulled out of Iraq as scheduled in December next year. "Iraqi military are using all US equipment and so their security forces will still need US trainers, technicians and links with the US military industrial complex in the years ahead." Our correspondent said while the western media and history will consider the US war in Iraq a success, most people will be waiting to see what happens in the country in the coming months and years. Campaign promise Obama had made ending the Iraq war a central policy of his presidential campaign, and after taking office he immediately announced plans to bring combat troops home by the end of August this year. He inherited around 144,000 troops in Iraq, 30,000 fewer than the peak levels of 2007, when the Bush administration ordered a so-called surge in an effort to improve Iraq's atrocious security situation. After becoming president, Obama immediately set about transferring responsibility for security from the US military to Iraqi forces, gradually pulling US troops out of the country. Generals approved the final tranche of the drawdown in May this year, despite a rise in violence following inconclusive parliamentary elections in March. The war, which began when a US-led coalition invaded Iraq in 2003 and overthrew the government of Saddam Hussein, has proven costly to America both in terms of dollars and human life. Operation Iraqi Freedom has cost more than $900 billion and seen 4,415 US troops die. That figure has been dwarfed by the number of Iraqi civilians killed, estimated at more than 100,000, according to the Iraq Body Countwebsite. At the height of the violence in 2006, Iraq was brought to the brink of all-out civil war between the Sunni and Shia communities, with bombings and sectarian murders becoming a deadly part of day-to-day life in many parts of the country. In 2007, President Bush ordered a controversial surge of more than 30,000 combat troops in an effort to improve the situation. That, combined with improved co-operation with Iraq's Sunni population, led to a substantial improvement in security that allowed US troops to begin transferring responsibility to Iraqi forces. 'Too Early' While the end of combat operations will be welcomed by many ordinary Iraqis, US troops leave behind a country with a far from certain future. Iraq has had no government for the past five months following the elections, and the security situation remains volatile, with a sharp spike in civilian deaths in July underlining the fragility of the situation. Concerns have been raised that the US is pulling out of the country too soon, most notably by Lt Gen Babaker Zebari, Iraq's most-senior army officer, who warned last weekthat his forces would not be ready to take control of security until 2020. Zebari predicted that "problems will start after 2011", referring to the Obama administration's deadline for the full withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. In a graphic illustration of his point, a blast this weekat an army recruitment centre in Baghdad left at least 60 people dead and more than 100 wounded, in one of the worst attacks to hit Iraq for months. The Obama administration has defended its plans to withdraw from Iraq, insisting that it is satisfied with progress in the country, despite recent setbacks. The Iraqi government has acknowledged that with the troop withdrawal, the time has come to take responsibility for their own security. "I think we have to do the job by ourselves, at the end we should be fully responsible for our security," Ali al-Dabbagh, the Iraqi government spokesman, told Al Jazeera. "Although it looks as if we have many threats and challenges for us here in Iraq, at the end we have to balance whether we have to accept foreign troops for a long period or [if] we have to do the job ourselves. We have to choose to do the job by ourselves. "Of course, this is ahead of the schedule adopted by the withdrawal agreement between us. But this is part of the responsible withdrawal President Barack Obama had promised his people," he said. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/08/201081818840122963.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaMpAgE Posted August 19, 2010 Originally posted by cynical lady: Since the troops are still there and will continue to do, despite the 2012 deadline for now hence the title is somewhat misleading; My question to you is good news or bad for Iraqis?...... The last US combat brigade has withdrawn from Iraq, more than seven years after the US-led coalition invaded the country in a war that has claimed the lives of more than 4,000 US troops. The brigade left the country in the early hours of Thursday morning, two weeks before an August 31 deadline for the end of Operation Iraqi Freedom pledged by Barack Obama upon taking office. Over the course of the week, soldiers from the 4th Stryker brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, have driven hundreds of vehicles from Camp Victory near the Baghdad airport to Camp Virginia in Kuwait. Their withdrawal brings to an end a controversial and bloody operation that began with the American "shock and awe" bombing campaign of Baghdad in March 2003, and saw the US military endure some of the heaviest fighting it had seen for a generation. Captain Christopher Ophardt, a spokesman for the 4th Stryker Brigade of the 2nd Infantry Division, said the last of the unit's vehicles will cross the border into Kuwait early on Thursday. Iraqi concerns Most of the brigade's 4,000 soldiers have been driving out of Iraq in their armoured vehicles, with a few hundred members staying behind to finish administrative and logistical duties. They will be flying out of Baghdad later on Thursday. About 50,000 US troops will remain in the country in an advisory capacity, helping to train Iraqi forces in a new mission codenamed Operation New Dawn, which will run until the end of 2011. Al Jazeera's Rawya Rageh, reporting from Baghdad, said there is now a shift to acting as "advise-and-assist" brigades which "consists mainly of training and providing logistical support". "They will, however, have the right to defend themselves against attacks if they are targeted," our correspondent said. "But they will not be stepping in, they will not be conducting any military operations per say, unless they are specifically called on to do so by the Iraqi government." Al Jazeera's Josh Rushing, reporting from the Iraq-Kuwait border, said the question now is whether the drawdown, which is being touted as a milestone, will go down in history as the end of the war or the beginning of a period of violence. "This is not the end of it. In fact, it will be a long military relationship between the United States and Iraq long after all US troops have pulled out of Iraq as scheduled in December next year. "Iraqi military are using all US equipment and so their security forces will still need US trainers, technicians and links with the US military industrial complex in the years ahead." Our correspondent said while the western media and history will consider the US war in Iraq a success, most people will be waiting to see what happens in the country in the coming months and years. Campaign promise Obama had made ending the Iraq war a central policy of his presidential campaign, and after taking office he immediately announced plans to bring combat troops home by the end of August this year. He inherited around 144,000 troops in Iraq, 30,000 fewer than the peak levels of 2007, when the Bush administration ordered a so-called surge in an effort to improve Iraq's atrocious security situation. After becoming president, Obama immediately set about transferring responsibility for security from the US military to Iraqi forces, gradually pulling US troops out of the country. Generals approved the final tranche of the drawdown in May this year, despite a rise in violence following inconclusive parliamentary elections in March. The war, which began when a US-led coalition invaded Iraq in 2003 and overthrew the government of Saddam Hussein, has proven costly to America both in terms of dollars and human life. Operation Iraqi Freedom has cost more than $900 billion and seen 4,415 US troops die. That figure has been dwarfed by the number of Iraqi civilians killed, estimated at more than 100,000, according to the Iraq Body Countwebsite. At the height of the violence in 2006, Iraq was brought to the brink of all-out civil war between the Sunni and Shia communities, with bombings and sectarian murders becoming a deadly part of day-to-day life in many parts of the country. In 2007, President Bush ordered a controversial surge of more than 30,000 combat troops in an effort to improve the situation. That, combined with improved co-operation with Iraq's Sunni population, led to a substantial improvement in security that allowed US troops to begin transferring responsibility to Iraqi forces. 'Too Early' While the end of combat operations will be welcomed by many ordinary Iraqis, US troops leave behind a country with a far from certain future. Iraq has had no government for the past five months following the elections, and the security situation remains volatile, with a sharp spike in civilian deaths in July underlining the fragility of the situation. Concerns have been raised that the US is pulling out of the country too soon, most notably by Lt Gen Babaker Zebari, Iraq's most-senior army officer, who warned last weekthat his forces would not be ready to take control of security until 2020. Zebari predicted that "problems will start after 2011", referring to the Obama administration's deadline for the full withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. In a graphic illustration of his point, a blast this weekat an army recruitment centre in Baghdad left at least 60 people dead and more than 100 wounded, in one of the worst attacks to hit Iraq for months. The Obama administration has defended its plans to withdraw from Iraq, insisting that it is satisfied with progress in the country, despite recent setbacks. The Iraqi government has acknowledged that with the troop withdrawal, the time has come to take responsibility for their own security. "I think we have to do the job by ourselves, at the end we should be fully responsible for our security," Ali al-Dabbagh, the Iraqi government spokesman, told Al Jazeera. "Although it looks as if we have many threats and challenges for us here in Iraq, at the end we have to balance whether we have to accept foreign troops for a long period or [if] we have to do the job ourselves. We have to choose to do the job by ourselves. "Of course, this is ahead of the schedule adopted by the withdrawal agreement between us. But this is part of the responsible withdrawal President Barack Obama had promised his people," he said. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/08/201081818840122963.html "My question to you is good news or bad for Iraqis?" My question is since when has occupation and subjugation ever been good news? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites