N.O.R.F Posted July 28, 2005 Demolish party wall - new entrance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted July 28, 2005 Originally posted by 7 of Nine: I have been told I carry the arrogance quite well Ahem, we noticed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted July 28, 2005 Originally posted by Zephyrine: Well, mine probably is, although my father assures me that he comes from a very straight, very clean line. Then he went and married my mum, he says. All good things must come to an end, he says. The old codger! How funny that is. My mother always said her perfect genes were polluted by our father's. I think she was thinking, narrowly, along clan lines though. Pity. But this study is much larger than that. Looking at genetic markers, you might find that you are related to people who live in Kyrgystan now more than many of your kinsmen. That's what I find most interesting. As for being Cuban, I have no doubt whatsoever. Between Cigars, Salsa, Socialism and the most beautiful people on earth. I can't be from anywhere else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sincere Posted July 28, 2005 ^^^Errrmm...You forgot to add the Captain Morgan to that list. Wouldnt be suprised if they say I have Tuareg in me....nice scam though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky Posted July 28, 2005 Originally posted by Fidel: It's known that all humans came from Africa originally Bullshit! The human race come from the mountain of Carafa on the Arabian peninsula originally. Its where our ancestors Aadan and Xaawo met after they were kicked out of heaven and landed at this Godforsaken place called earth. I know for one that the Irish are my people. I can so relate with these people you know. They faced hunger, war everything and still keep it real. If they weren't white, they would be black. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted July 28, 2005 Fidel, Like your mum, my father speaks, or rather jokes, along tribal lines too. For me, I suspect I am a long-lost relative of the Mosuo people of China, the only living matriachal society today. I suspect you might guess at the reason why when you read the excerpt below. Women Power all the way! :cool: Excerpt : The Mosuo are a non-Chinese ethnic minority living within the boundaries of China. Their homeland lies on the borders of Yuennan and Szetchuan provinces, not far from Tibet. Anthropologist Wang Shu Wu conducted the first research on the Mosuo in 1954. Later, the feminist scholar Yan Ruxian (1980) also did fieldwork there. The Mosuo are considered by Chinese anthropologists to be matriarchal, because they are still living in accordance with the patterns of matrilinearity and matrilocality. ... What makes the Mosuo so interesting for many anthropologists is their matriarchal society. The majority of the Mosuo still live according to the patterns of matrilinearity and matrilocality in big clan-houses that are built in a square. All persons within each clan-house have the clan name of the eldest woman, the clan mother. These names are, for example: "Tiger Mother," "Snake Mother," "Cougar Mother," "Tree Mother," and so on. The names, as well as the common ownership of the house and the land, are exclusively inherited through the female line. The women of the first generation are between sixty and eighty years old. The Women of the second generation are between forty and sixty years old. One woman of a group of sisters has been elected by the clan members to be the matriarch. With the help of her sisters, she cares for the economic and social affairs of the clan-house. She is the administrator of all possessions of the clan: the house, fields, domestic animals and food, as well as the horses, which are mostly used by the men of the clan, her brothers and sons. All goods are given into her hands: the crops of the fields, the fruits of the gardens, the fishes and hunted animals - even the goods and the money that have been earned by the men through long-distance trade by means of horse caravans. She is also the distributor of these goods, caring for the welfare of every member of the extended family. She plans the agricultural labor, acts as host for the guests, and is the priestess of the clan house during the important family ceremonies, like the initiation festival of the girls and the funeral ceremonies for the deceased. Her brother, elected to be the representative of the clan, helps her by organizing external affairs, which involves communication with the neighbors and planning the men's work. The women of the third generation are between thirteen and forty years old. At about thirteen years of age, after the ceremony of initiation, girls are considered to be full members of the clan and are given the key to their own rooms. This young generation of women does the hard work in the fields and gardens. They are also occupied with love, pregnancy, and motherhood. Their traditional custom was to have mutual marriage between two clans, but this form has ceased to exist. Today, each woman chooses her lovers as she wishes. Love affairs are easily begun and easily broken off without problems for the young woman and her children because they are all at home in their (grand)mother's house. Once a year, the young people of the region go on a pilgrimage to their sacred mountain. There they have a dance festival to honor Gan mu as the great Goddess of Love. On this occasion, the young women choose a new lover among the young men. The men do not initiate the choice themselves. The elected lover has the right to visit his love at night in her private chamber in the house of her clan. But the next morning at dawn he must leave because he has no right to live with her, not even to eat there. The custom is that every person eats where she or he works. The man works in the house of his mother, where he is at home. Thus, every evening the brothers leave the clan house and the lovers enter, and every morning the lovers leave and the brothers come back. This is the classic matriarchal visiting marriage, which still exists among the Mosuo. A Mosuo man has his rights and duties in the house of his mother, not in the house of his love, where he is only a guest. The children belong exclusively to the mother and her clan. The brothers of the young women take care of the nieces and nephews, who are regarded as their children, too, because they share the same clan name. The uncles of the children fulfill the role of social fatherhood, which is typical for matriarchal societies. Biological fatherhood makes no sense to the Mosuo, socially or spiritually.... Source Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legend of Zu Posted July 28, 2005 ^^^ They Suck we toss them around... Ohh I forgot..the Great Great Great Grand son of Genghis Khan...Neat huh!!! Cheeers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted July 28, 2005 ^^What do they suck? Ghengis Khan? LoL..how camp! Say Attila the HuN and I willl have more respect for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Legend of Zu Posted July 28, 2005 Genghis Khan I say...Attila was gay!! ooh you ask what they suck...Lollies!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted July 28, 2005 ^^ You toss them around for sucking lollies? *Giggles* Um..OK Mr Khan! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheherazade Posted July 28, 2005 Salaxuddiin, Mongolian? Um, have I been telling tales? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy Posted July 31, 2005 Its only Human nature that to some of us it sounds a treasure in finding where we might have orginated from, I say to them Good On you folks and keep on the exploration track. But as far as I am concerned, so Long as I know my immediate family and their second generations ancestors, I see No reason to Dig up a hole beyond that just for the sake of curiousity. Apart from the fact that we (all humans have originted from Africa from one single species) Of course the theory of evolution is just a theory, which you are free to believe or not. Even if you do not believe in evolution all together still its a food for thought. And I guarantee You its an excellent matter/interest to sink your teeth in to it; if evolutions of human species isnt even ur cup a tea. cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted July 31, 2005 Originally posted by Foxy-brown: Of course the theory of evolution is just a theory, which you are free to believe or not. There is no freedom in belief when it comes to evolution. It's fact and people need to get over that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy Posted July 31, 2005 Qoute There is no freedom in belief when it comes to evolution. It's fact and people need to get over that. Indeed it shouldnt require a debate about evolution, but then cut some slack for the religious groups who do not belive in an any form of evolution. cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Castro Posted July 31, 2005 Originally posted by Foxy-brown: but then cut some slack for the religious groups who do not belive in an any form of evolution. What's next, gravity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites