Zaki Badawi's Advice

[Laba-X]

Salaam!

 

The Muslim population in Great Britain is today sorrounded by cloud of confusion and misunderstanding. Bewildered youth, petrified mothers, disparity and divergence between Imaams and scholars. This may be all because of the actions of a few, actions which most consider to be unjustified, but issues are cropping up. The latest being that of Imaam Badawi coming up with teaching that are incongruous and unlike the teaching of Islam - The Qur'an and Sunnah.

 

Zaki Badawi, An Egyptian scholar, is often described as a "Moderate Islamic Cleric" in the newspapers. he (May Allah guide him and us to the righteous path) issued a fatwa recently "advicing" the muslim sisters to remove the Hijabs ordainded by Allah because of the perilous predicaments they are currently facing as a result of the London Bombs.

 

Allah knows best, but what i was taught is entirely different to what this scholar is preaching. I was taught that Hijab is Wajib and under no circumstances can a woman remove or neglect it except for one: If her life is in immidiate danger and it is life-threatening. Then she has the option to do what the Kafirs want while her "Imaan" still remains intact since all actions are based on intentions. But that is certainly not the case here in London. A very few individuals' suffer harrasment, defamation or verbal abuse but no one's life is in critical danger for an Imaam to be issuing a fatwa and negating some of the teachings of islam or that which has been preordained by Allah.

 

I was also taught that during the time of the holy Prophet, a Sahaba (Caamir - can't remember his full name) was severely tormented by the Non Believers. His parents were killed and he was angst-ridden by all the physical pain and punishments he was subjected to, that he finally uttered the Kalimat-ul-Kufr. He denounced Islam and the holy Prophet and the non-believers left him in peace. The Sahaba came to the holy Prophet and related his ill-fate to him. The holy Prophet said : "يا عامر اضربوك؟" "Oh Camir! Did they beat you?" And advised him to "do the same again, if they did the same thing to you" -i.e denounce Islam if they torment you again.

 

Now, I am not sure if Imaam Zaki Badawi has used this hadith as grounds for his statements, but he is wrong to tell the sisters to Reveal their Awrah. Allah has ordained us to enjoin the ma'ruf (good) and forbid the Munkar (evil) not vice versa. So, is that what imaam Badawi is doing - enjoining Ma'ruf and forbidding Munkar - or is he misleading the entire Ummah? Allahu Aclam

[NGONGE]

ولما رايت الجهل ÙÙŠ الناس Ùاشيا

تجاهلت حتي ظن اني جاهل

Ùوا عجبا كم يدعي الÙضل ناقص

وواسÙا كم يظهر النقص Ùاضل

[Castro]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

ولما رايت الجهل ÙÙŠ الناس Ùاشيا

تجاهلت حتي ظن اني جاهل

Ùوا عجبا كم يدعي الÙضل ناقص

وواسÙا كم يظهر النقص Ùاضل

Ngonge, where do you find this stuff?

[OG_Girl]

LoooL@NGONGE.

 

بس ياريت تعطيه رأيك ÙÙŠ الموضوع.عل وعسي يقتنع أو يقبل الرأي الأخر،لو إني أعر٠ما راح يسير

 

 

Salam

[Animal Farm]

If we are living in a democratic society where people are allowed to live together in harmony, at least we are told to believe this, than this shouldn’t be even considered.

 

We cannot compromise, and restructure our faith in order to satisfy the majority. Our religion should not be modernized – just look at other religions in today’s world, many things have profoundly changed in them through political correctness.

 

What will happen next if we modernize Islam, Muslims are already isolated among themselves – religion has become a private affair, there is no longer a collectivity, and this is a direct result of the Muslim modernist camps attempts to resocialize the new generation with gesellschaft like theories, as if liberal propaganda TV was not enough?

 

London is a democracy, unless otherwise stated flat out that its not. And as citizens, you have the right to practice your faith, and wear what you like.

[FARIID]

I was reading zaki's advice to muslim women to abondon the hijab and i couldn't help but laugh. At a time when the british have stated in no uncertain terms that they will not give in to the terrorists and will stick to their way of life, it is disheartning that someone who claims to be an islamic scholar suggests that muslims should change their way of life.

 

The basis for his 'fatwa' is the ayat of the quran ordering the muslim women to cover up.he says that the hijab is suppose to protect and according to him given the current climate it will do exactly the oppossite.therefore, by logic don't wear it.

 

you would really expect the sheikh to come out strongly urging the muslims to be steadfast during this period and to increase acts of obidience and not to go away from the tenets of this religion- like taking off the hijab.

 

we are tired of getting all sorts of fatwa that are really questionable.

[Haaraahur.]

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very few individuals' suffer harrasment, defamation or verbal abuse but no one's life is in critical danger for an Imaam to be issuing a fatwa and negating some of the teachings of islam or that which has been preordained by Allah.

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Imagine the hardships the black people in uk had/have to go through for over centuries! Yet they couldn't take off their skin colours for all they wished.

 

So they had to struggle to set their conditions right against such brutalities no one can imagine

 

How brave and resilient black people are

[NGONGE]

One man bursts a bubble and a million others duck.

 

 

CAIRO, July 28, 2005 (IslamOnline.net) – A leading British Muslim scholar has said that Muslim women living in the European country, where Muslims have been suffering mounting abuse and harassment since the July 7 London attacks, can take off their hijab.

 

"I have issued a fatwa that Muslim women in Britain have an Islamic right to take off their hijab at this point of time if attacked or fearing to be attacked," Dr. Zaki Badawi, the Dean of the Muslim College in London, told IslamOnline.net over the phone from the British capital.

 

Badawi said they have registered more than 15,00 assault against hijab-clad women during the past three days only, in addition to a flood of threat letters.

 

He asserted that in Islam hijab is originally meant to identify Muslim women, so that they might not be attacked or harassed.

 

The scholar cited the Qur’anic verse which reads: "O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognized and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful." (Al-Ahzab: 59)

 

"If hijab becomes a reason of harm for Muslim women in Britain at this time, then I tell them to take it off so that they would not be recognized and consequently attacked," said Egyptian-born Badawi.

 

"Muslims (in Britain) are scared and each feels he/she is a suspect. The picture is, indeed, gloomy and we are trying all we can to address it."

 

A Guardian/ICM poll published Tuesday, July 26, indicated that nearly half a million Muslims contemplated leaving Britain after the London attacks.

 

It showed that tens of thousands of Muslims have suffered from increased Islamophobia, with one in five saying they or a family member have faced abuse or hostility since the attacks.

 

Police have recorded more than 1,200 suspected Islamophobic incidents across the country ranging from verbal abuse to one murder in the past three weeks.

 

A British Muslim of Pakistani origin was beaten to death by a gang of extremists in Nottingham in northern Britain on Sunday, July 10.

 

At least seven mosques have come under arson and racist attacks few hours after the bombings.

 

Hijab Defender

 

Dr. Badawi, a prominent Islamic scholar, community activist, and promoter of interfaith-dialogue, stressed that his fatwa only applies to Muslim women in Britain.

 

"I staunchly opposed the March 2004 French law banning hijab in state-run schools," he said.

 

"However, the British case is different and hence requires a different reading."

 

France triggered a world controversy after adopting a bill banning hijab in public schools and institutions, which was branded by the Human Rights Watch (HRW) as "discriminatory".

 

Islam sees hijab as an obligatory code of dress, not a religious symbol displaying one’s affiliations.

 

Badawi, born 1922, is currently the principal of the Muslim College in Britain, a postgraduate seminary responsible for the training of imams and Muslim leaders in the West which he founded in 1986.

 

He received his undergraduate degree in theology from the Cairo-based Al-Azhar University, and a master's degree in Arabic Language and Literature in 1947.

 

Badawi moved to the United Kingdom in 1951 and studied psychology at University College London, obtaining his bachelor's degree in 1954 and a doctorate in Modern Muslim Thought from London University.

 

His teaching posts have taken him to universities in Malaysia, Singapore, Nigeria and the United Kingdom.

 

In 1978, Badawi was appointed director of the Islamic Cultural Centre (ICC) and Chief Imam of the London Central Mosque in Regents Park.

 

During that period he participated in establishing the Shari`ah Council as a facility to reconcile conflicts between Islamic law and the British civil code.

 

Badawi was elected chairman of the Imams and Mosques Council by the National Conference of Imams and Mosque Officials of the UK in 1984. He still holds this position.

 

He participated in negotiations with the Bank of England to establish the first Islamic financial institution licensed in the United Kingdom, the Islamic Finance House (IFH), which he managed for three years.

 

Badawi has published and lectured on a wide range of issues, including various conflicts, Islam in Britain, democracy, the rights of the unborn child, and human rights.

 

He is a co-founder of the Three Faiths Forum, vice chairman of the World Congress of Faiths and director/trustee of the Forum Against Islamophobia and Racism (FAIR).

 

Source

 

Fidel,

 

O ye of little faith :mad:

[Castro]

Originally posted by Mudanti haweenka:

How brave and resilient black people are

Not to mention beautiful and proud. Excellent point Mudanti Haweenka.

[Haddad]

Originally posted by Raganimo:

Zaki Badawi, An Egyptian scholar, is often described as a "Moderate Islamic Cleric" in the newspapers.

Sometimes, he's described as very moderate.

Originally posted by FARIID:

you would really expect the sheikh to come out strongly urging the muslims to be steadfast during this period and to increase acts of obidience and not to go away from the tenets of this religion- like taking off the hijab.

Indeed. But, if he does that, he could be deported, because the urging has to be moderate. urging the muslims to be steadfast during this period and to increase acts of obidience and not to go away from the tenets of this religion- like taking off the hijab isn't considered to be moderate.

[Castro]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

O ye of little faith :mad:

Dude, no offence but I can't believe you wrote that. Of course, I've been proven wrong many times.

[Paragon]

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Deelleeyda maansada markaan daman ka reystaaba,

Wax unbaa i damqinayoo, qalbigu ila dikaamaaye

Markaasaan dib ugu soo noqdaa yaaban lay dirane

Maantana ninba igu dirqiyey ducuful iimaan ah,

 

Oo dumarkii cawrada asturey iga dicaayeey,

Aniguna ma deyi karo dulmiga lala dinaaxyeeyoo

Waa inaan difaacaa gabdhaha diinta lagu maagey

Ma dafirin xijaabke Qudubi waa dabcinayaaye

Daliiilna wuxuu u doondoonayaa ducul imaanee

 

Marse haduu jilbaabkii dacmiyey ama dicaayeeyey

Welibana daliishadey iftaro danno yahuudeed ah

Diintiisu ineey naaqus tahay doodi kama taagna

Dambina kuma ekeeysan ilxaad buu u daadegayee

Dufna Allaha ku bixiyee falsalaq wax is doorshaane

 

Nin diriiska culumada sitoo daacinimo sheegtey

Dirtiisii horena lagu yaqiin diinta iyo kheeyrka

Oo daman xaqa usoo halgamey kuna dadaalaayey

Haduu dumarkii cawrada asturey dig ugu soo laabtey

Diintiisu ineey naaqus tahay doodi kama taagna

Dufna Allaha ku bixiyee falsalaq wax is doorshaane

 

Dulmigiyo isgaadkiyo dilkiyo dunidan qaaceeysa

Duul yaroo ka nabad galey fidnadan dumarka aafeeysey

Oo Daa’inkeey dhowrey baa loo dan leeyahaye

Ma’suuniyadu nimeey soo dirtaa loo daminayaaye

Dharka inuu ka daadshuu rabey dirac u reebaaye

Iimaan dihniga hor degeey wax uga diideene

 

Islaaxoow haloo digo Qudubi waa dabeeyshadaye

Ama tiisa door bida dibbaa loo xisaabtamiyee

Doc isku raaca dowr muuqda ama keligii deerreeye

Diwaanka waxaad geeysatiin daniyo yeelkiinee

By Bacadle

 

Lyric scripted from doollo, maqal section

[xiinfaniin]

@Dulmigiyo isgaadkiyo dilkiyo dunidan qaaceeysa

Dul yaroo ka nabad galey fidnadan dumarka aafeeysey

Oo Daa’inkeey dhowrey baa loo dan leeyahaye

Ma’suuniyadu nimeey soo dirtaa loo daminayaaye

Dharka inuu ka daadshuu rabey dirac u reebaaye

Iimaan dihniga hor degeey wax uga diideene

 

Very true indeed.

[Paragon]

^^^ I think Bacadle, summed it up.

[-Serenity-]

I don’t agree with the Dr. His reasoning is flawed.

 

I happen to think the vast majority of British people appreciate and understand the meaning of the Hijab as a symbol of modesty and nothing more. Its not a political symbol like its being equated to.

 

No one is going to attack you because you wear the hijab…they will attack you because you’re a Muslim. If one has the intention to beat up a muslim person, they will do so regardless. So putting aside your hijab really doesn’t do much.