Mogadishu's strategy for reintegrating Hargeisa into Somalia

[Saalax]

THE INDIAN OCEAN NEWSLETTER ISSUE 1482 DATED 28/09/2018


According to our sources, the Somaliland minister of finance, Yusuf Mohamed Abdi, is in secret talks with his Somalian counterpart, Abdirahman Duale Beyle, , and the Somalian deputy prime minister, Mehdi Mohamed Guolid, regarding the possibility of harmonising their tax revenues and their financial architecture in order to meet the criteria of the World Bank (BM) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) or a reassessment of their debt and the granting of loans. This initiative would permit the Somalian federal government to allocate part of its loans to Somaliland, provided certain political agreements are reached. Yusuf Mohamed Abdi has held these talks with the Somalian prime minister (who is a relative of his) without informing his own president, Musa Bihi Abdi. Yusuf Mohamed Abdi's negotiations are calling into question Hargeisa's stated desire for autonomy in relation to Mogadishu.

[Dalmar1]

Everyone under the  blue sky knows that Somaliland will never be an independent, those at the UN and co especially know that Somaliland is an disgruntled 1 clan project doomed to fail as fragmentation is already showing with civil war brewing  (just like S/Sudan has showed), and also UN and co see unlike S/Sudan in Somaliland a place of no hope an barren, desolated, and of no value economically unlike Somalia which has abundance of resources and natural landscape such as rivers and such and is about built Mogadishu into an Mega City .

I for one hoped that Somaliland and Puntland break from Somalia, so that we South Somalia could finally be at peace Politically, instead of their calacaal 24H especially that of Puntland, but i know that my hope is far fetched and unlikely to happen.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Mogadishu  and the koonfurians since 1991 cali naafto  salbalaadh and  cabdilahi tigray they have no policy . No Somaliland leader is  going to hold talks with them...  siilaanyo xassan culusow failed in the talks started in 2013.

[Dalmar1]

@Oodweyneand @Xaaji Xunjufina adeereyaal, 

I advice you sincerely with all my heart, dont piss off Beesha Mogadishu, if you have something against Farmaajo then attack him, but attacking Mogadishu will only wake up the sleeping the Giant, making an enemy of that giant is not in your interest as beesha Hargeisa, your folks curse and antagonistic attacks on  Reer Mogadishu will all be recorded, in the future dont be surprised that once we handle the Southern Problems that we will roll in Tanks and Committed Army to pay you folks back your dues, once HAG enters a war, utter destruction is the outcome.

Being in Mogadishu truly showed me something, and that is the hate for reer Hargeisa is surreal and paramount, walahi they even call you folks in Hargeisa a fiefdom of xabashi dhabodhaliifs that needs to be exterminated, i am shocked but not surprised, because this hate is all because of Somaliland antagonistic stance of 24H  Cursing Mogadishu, wishing for their destruction in suicide bombs,and once bombs does happen they are the first to enjoy and party on it.

 

In Short, my advice is dont antagonize us Reer Mogadishu because our enemy is of one, unless you want a bigger enemy then go ahead continue attacking us, just dont calacaal later for Irir.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The koonfurians or the warrawarood have no sense of understanding of politics  adeer 1960 26 June iyo 18may.  Adeer makala garanaysa. Horta goormaad dhalatay adigu. Oday Oodweyne can't keep schooling you on history lessons. Ileen cashar lugu dhigi mayo. Xassan kaydwalannwal General cayaashe mujahid maxammad cali dadka bal horta soobaro iyo muuse biixi cvigsa soo  xafid  adeer.

[Aroori]

5 hours ago, Dalmar1 said:

in the future dont be surprised that once we handle the Southern Problems that we will roll in Tanks and Committed Army to pay you folks back your dues, once HAG enters a war, utter destruction is the outcome.

 

5 hours ago, Dalmar1 said:

walahi they even call you folks in Hargeisa a fiefdom of xabashi dhabodhaliifs that needs to be exterminated

 

5 hours ago, Dalmar1 said:

, i am shocked but not surprised, because this hate is all because of Somaliland antagonistic stance of 24H  Cursing Mogadishu, wishing for their destruction in suicide bombs,and once bombs does happen they are the first to enjoy and party on it.

Extremely contradictory statements in a single post, maybe you should work on resolving your hatred towards the people you accuse of being hateful. (Maroodigu takarta ku taagan ma arkee; takarta maroodiga kale ku taagan ayuu tilmaamaa)

[Dahireeto]

Dalmar1, there are no permanent enemies. There are permanent interests. Stop hating on your brothers in Puntland. 

 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Dalmar is just an old school looter hogaga ugandheesku ku jira markasu hanjabaya. Caydiid  was a hero but cali naafta ka khariibay. And southern poltical culture is just a big animal farm. Isku Somali manihin iska  dhaqan baynu nahay.

[galbeedi]

OOdweyne and Xaaji,

Please get off from the high horse and smell the coffee. Sometimes, you guys act just like another "Gaas Dhagoole"

The article is true on the money issue but incorrect to say that Muuse Biixi is not aware of the deal. He is well aware of the move.

Since the EU and the World Bank  agreed to pass aid money allocated for Somaliland through the federal government, they are obliged to talk to one another. Still some aid would go directly to Somaliland , but the current issue of harmonizing taxes and sharing economic data is mostly a new effort to get loans from the lender community.

So far, after two decades, Somaliland did not get direct loans from the international institutions including the world bank and IMF. In order to qualify, for loans both these entities must fill full certain conditions. 

This week we all heard about the grants and budgetary help the EU and World Bank Offred to Somalia, but as they say, the devil in the details.

Usually, the IMF and others demand micro economic  policy that forces nations to reform their taxes codes and imposes  harsh austerity measures that target government programs that usually favor the  poor.

I do not want to be ahead of my self but the publicized grant from the World Bank is prelude to the incoming loan money to Somalia.  The Somali government will take this loan on behalf of everyone including Somaliland. Usually, their operating mechanism will be giving you a loan and demanding the repayment of the old national debt  through IMF designed policy. 

Somalia, a country genuinely facing serious debt problems and huge budgetary issue , the IMF loan will only make the situation worse. 

Somali administrations  will never sit down and resolve their disagreements and problems, yet one it comes to money and foreign aid they kiss and make up to  take the bag home, while telling their public how much they hate one another. Dawladii waan go'aynaa lahayd iyo tii daciifka ahayd ee Muqdisho Dhaafi la'a ayya ku heshiinaya in ay lacag cusub oo deyn ah qaybsadaan.

So in order to get hundred of millions of loans that no Somali state is able to pay back in the next decade, these two entities are  negotiating behind close doors through the two cousins, one in Hargeisa, the other in Mogadishu.

Folks, just follow the money.

By the way, the deputy prime minister Mr. Mahdi M. Guuleed is not your typical northern to fill the place. He could be a ruthless man if he want to be one. In fact, insiders told us that he is involved in some of the uglier policies of the Farmaajo government including the handing of Qalbi -Dhagx to Ethiopia, the ambush of the house of opposition leader C/raxman Abdishakur , and the installation of the new supreme court judge from Hargeisa who is his close family member. 

At one point,  Mr. Mahadi Guuleed  was a member of the Cabdi Illey cabinet in Jigjiga along with  the attorney general (Xeer Illaliyaha Qaranka) of Somalia Mr. Ahmed Daahir. He speaks a fluent Amharic and has huge influence how to deal with Ethiopia. Since he was trained by Cabdi bIlley, he doesn't care about rules or other obstacles that might hinder his plans.

After he left Jigjiga, he joined the family run UCID party of Faysal C. Waraabe. He was a member of the central committee and other roles which will take me some time to dig. While Mr. Hayr Maaryeeye was the point man for Somali government contacts to trhe Siilaanyo government, Mr. Mahdi is the new man who have  direct contacts with Somaliland government through Fatsal Waraabe. 

As most of you guys are aware of,  Chairman Faysal Waraabe ,  is co- ruling with Muuse Biixi as a coalition government, and it seems that the Biixi administration had transferred the Somalia file to him. For Mr. Mahdi, to rectify the Qalbi-Dhagax issue which he handled badly by convincing the amateur Farmaajo to score points with Ethiopia, he asked Faysal to fix it and take him home to Hargeisa and change the narrative.

On one hand, I like his ruthlessness to make things done without bothering or talking useless parliamentarians others, on the other hand, I am afraid that he might put some wrong ideas on the head of the " quite man in Villa Somalia"

So, my friends, do not be fooled by this new cozy relations to extort some cash and loan from the IMF and others while knowing full well  that no one including Somaliland  could be able to pay back those loans.

It seems the era of loans, debt financing and control of the Somali economic policy by others had begun. 

Those who installed Farmaajo are throwing few soft balls to the Somali public opinion knowing full well the stagnation of the nation .

 

 

 

 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Oodweyne  ninkan galbeedi mistakes us for koonfurians who would sell their assets sea.coast to Kenyans and kill their own  mothers invite international jihadist pashtun fighters. I think he mistakes us for them we in Somaliland corrected our mistake in 1991 18 may.  A New  dawn a New era. We are not doing it for the money it's about principles values ethics morals. Somaliland is not for sale  this is about the future of our grandchildren they will never be ruled by others . Ta dhagaha ku quful Kagan galbeedi labaxay eeh fadhatada ah.

[galbeedi]

Guys, there are three groups. The descent public  (shacabku waa xalaal meel kasta oo ay joogo) who could be emotional at times, then there are the ideologies like OOdweyne and company and realist like me.

in fact Muuse Biixi shouldn’t be faulted by negotiating and trying to get some badly needed cash. When Siilaanyo decided to enter in to agreement with Hassan Sheikh, the ideologues like Mohamed Hashi Cilmi cried foul and said, “Somaliland wiilashayadii ayaan u hurnay oo Daataro cad cad ayaanu ka dhaqaanay markaasaad rabtaa in aad magaca Soomaalia lacagta ku qaadato”. 

He was just like the ideologue OOdweyne, but Siilaanyo had to run a government and feed hungry mouths and get the cash. If someone is getting an alimony, they do not care how one got the money.

Here , no sacrifices or  that sort of things are needed. Siilaanyo found a way to justify his move to get the money, and Biixi will get some kind of cover like The starting of the negotiations earn the cash. As usual , the dogs will bark , but the caravan goes.

Besides, do you guys have seen the Somaliland news these days. Biixi is attacked from both sides including his own party , and since Somali leaders do not have these solutions for these issue , the best way to silence them is to throw some money at these hungry politicians and buy some time. 

Why would Siilaanyo and Farmaajo make 70 ministers?, certainly not to fix huge government  beraucracy , but occupy these wolves within the system.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The problem galbeedi it's not about  The cash we are not short of cash we have the berbera project going on. We got our oligarch from Djibouti to gabiley to hargeysa to wajaale to berbera to burco to diredhabe. The country is being built. We want to put our country on the map mujahid maxammad  xaashi cilmi and mujahid muuse biiixi are 2 sides of the same coin muuse being the military wing along side ina kahin and mujahid axmed mire. And ina xaashi being more poltical and more an oday  dhaqmeed  type.  You as a Somalilander still have no.clue about somalilanders and  their poltical culture. War Kiishka lacagta no muhim maha. We have been trading with the world for centuries. Ina ithaan iyo Ina imaan ba berbera bakhaaro  kulaha since the 17 century ina amaan na burco jooga.

[maakhiri1]

There is some truth to this article, and Biihi smart to make look he is not aware till it comes to fruitation.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Dhibaatada galbeedi haysata wa nin itaal daran oo isha lullata in ottawa he is still trying to play siyaasad yar qeybi oo xukun war dadkani wey kahoreyaan adigo dhoofi jirin bay dhoofi jireen adigoon  hadli aqoon bay hadli jireen. Dhibaatada walaalkeen galbeedi haysata wa kalsooni baan jirin. Intu walaweyn iyo warrawarood dabba ordayo  jabuuti iyo borama  iyo quljeed iyo tafaribar baku bahaan. Laakin maxay he wants to play abdi ismaciil samatar aniga kaligey  baa cilmiga aduunka  dhameyey.

[Suldaanka]

1 hour ago, galbeedi said:

Guys, there are three groups. The descent public  (shacabku waa xalaal meel kasta oo ay joogo) who could be emotional at times, then there are the ideologies like OOdweyne and company and realist like me.

in fact Muuse Biixi shouldn’t be faulted by negotiating and trying to get some badly needed cash. When Siilaanyo decided to enter in to agreement with Hassan Sheikh, the ideologues like Mohamed Hashi Cilmi cried foul and said, “Somaliland wiilashayadii ayaan u hurnay oo Daataro cad cad ayaanu ka dhaqaanay markaasaad rabtaa in aad magaca Soomaalia lacagta ku qaadato”. 

He was just like the ideologue OOdweyne, but Siilaanyo had to run a government and feed hungry mouths and get the cash. If someone is getting an alimony, they do not care how one got the money.

Here , no sacrifices or  that sort of things are needed. Siilaanyo found a way to justify his move to get the money, and Biixi will get some kind of cover like The starting of the negotiations earn the cash. As usual , the dogs will bark , but the caravan goes.

Besides, do you guys have seen the Somaliland news these days. Biixi is attacked from both sides including his own party , and since Somali leaders do not have these solutions for these issue , the best way to silence them is to throw some money at these hungry politicians and buy some time. 

Why would Siilaanyo and Farmaajo make 70 ministers?, certainly not to fix huge government  beraucracy , but occupy these wolves within the system.

HSM had to accept Somaliland Special Arrangement. Which means Somaliland gets all its development support directly without Mogadishu's involvement.

That is one step short of recognition in my books. 

And the fact that the International Community had to stick it on Cheeseman's face when he tried to stiffle the arrangement was another nail on that Unity coffen. 

Again, another arrangement which is similar in nature which allows Somaliland to fully take ownership, is ok in my books. 

The onest is on Villa Amisom's side. When will they realise this is not a joke or a game. When will they face reality and get out of the bubble and mirage that Hargeisa will submit to Mogadishu? 

These are the questions that @galbeedi and the Unionist pedalists need to gobble with. 

Hargeisa gives no flying fig about World Bank if they do not tow our line. After all, we survived all along and we will survive and thrive alone.