Bad grammar and bad spelling

[MAXIMUS POWERS]

i am good thanks. what are phebes?

[rudy-Diiriye]

check the faqs--also, if u know the pswrd, u might find the secret link how to hit a home run with the babes...instead of shoting blanks 24/7.

 

secret pswrd is only $100.00 if u wanna buy.. no haggling or cheap skates allow.

[Cara.]

Sir Marc, meet rudy.

[MAXIMUS POWERS]

Thanks for introduction Cara, I would rather not know this animal of a man. I find the man highly offensive and in need of serious social cleansing.

[Cara.]

[Fabregas]

^^ look at this stirrer"

 

@Marc, who's this self opionated " Bile" you keep referring to? Your killed the word bile

[Ibtisam]

Cheerleaders encouraging him baa ninaka waali! Cara wilka kaa daa siidan.

 

Serenity will have a heart attack, when she sees how you have hijacked her thread. Concentrate the issue is bad spelling and grammar.

[Fabregas]

^^ I think you might be in the cheerleaders category

[Ibtisam]

Nope, he hates me. In fact I was the first person to be added to his axis of evil list.

[rudy-Diiriye]

cara cunuga xaa igu dhiree!!

 

oh oh! never mind..i was gonna say something about golden showers to clean the chap.. may be tomorrow.

 

cara cunuga xaa igu dhiree!!

[NGONGE]

Originally posted by -Serenity-:

^Old man, this is one time you have missed the point of the thread by a mile.

 

Try not to get caught out by the words 'facebook' and 'private messages'. :rolleyes:

Not at all, my dear. Did you miss the part where I said I chose NOT to reply?

 

The person I replied to has taken the topic to a different level and it was worth pointing out their mistake.

[Cara.]

Speaking of nonverbal communication Ngonge, I assume you wrote that tirade with tongue firmly in cheek?

 

Serenity WASN'T talking about discussions on medicine or physics, she WAS talking about more casual exchanges. And yes, even within technical writing grammar and usage does change, albeit slowly. I've just been reading Darwin's "Descent of Man", and trust me, English has evolved

 

Maybe the confounding problem here is that we are all taking about different things. For me, "hey how r u?" is grammatically correct, while "hey how is u?" is grammatically incorrect but still within normal usage for, say, teens, but I would turn my nose up at an adult who used it without any irony. But if Serenity got a message that said "hay how is u?" then her ire is understandable. That's just inexcusable.

[NGONGE]

^^ My reply was to the person I quoted. But there was no harm in winding Serenity up a little.

[Emperor]

Grammer and Spelling, I miss my first English lessons... It was all about Grammer and Spelling, I used to wonder why English unlike Arabic and Somali languages wasn't written as it sounded.

 

 

Now its your First English Grammer lesson:

 

Verb tenses:

I sleep, I am sleeping, I have slept, I have been sleeping, I slept, I was sleeping...

 

That's enought for tonight, next you will learn all about adjectives...

 

PS: Who remembers Shokolokobangoshoy

[winnie]

Originally posted by NGONGE:

quote:Originally posted by shaken and deterred:

the english language is changing, as it always is and always has been, but since there is no official standard, and people are open to more medium outlets (tv, billboards, internet), and the increasing mediums of communication involving writing (msg boards, instant msg, txt msg) tend to demand compounding and abandonment of grammar rules.

also, because there is no official standard, and classical literature seems to be abandonned by students, and the cultural society we live in today, the accepted standard of english is now what we hear from the pop stars, athletes, and famous actors who are generally from a lower class (and education);their english generally reflects it.

writing styles are also changing, and standards from educators are lowering everyday. of course theyre only decreasing if you look at it from the pov that it was superior in the past and that may not be the case. language evolves with how people us it. kids dont read anymore, and what they do read is often from the internet and like it or not, this is a factor in the fate of the english (and all other) language(S).

 

p.s. no edit.

Stuff and nonsense, my dear.

 

I didn't want to take this topic seriously because the original author was more concerned with frivolous topics such as Facebook, Somali boys and gapped teeth. However, your reply here is quite misleading and one has to pull you up on it.

 

Your argument is fine when the topic at hand is simplistic, frivolous and trivial. But how would it apply when it's more complex and intricate? Could you truly discuss politics, medicine, physics or even the future of information technology whilst using Ebonics and the spoken language (which is what Serenity, I assume, is complaining about)?

 

Language does indeed evolve, however, not to the extent that your words imply. In English, Arabic, Spanish and many other languages, there has always been a difference between the written and spoken language. Your average resident of London (or New York) does not write in the same way he speaks. There are no Arabs that speak the language exactly as it's written. Neither the French nor the Spanish speak and write in the same way or style. This difference has always existed and will do so for a long time to come.

 

When we speak, our punctuation is usually composed of phrases such as 'yeah', 'you know', 'you see', 'you get me?' and the like. Yet, when we write we simply use a full stop, comma or exclamation mark. On a trivial subject it is easy to discard such punctuation but, when the ideas we try to convey are more complex and laborious, we are forced to use proper grammar and punctuation in order to be understood. In other words, when I'm speaking, I know you'll perfectly understand the point I'm making because I blinked at the right time, raised my eyebrow or even smiled. But when I'm writing, this body language does not exist and I am obliged to follow the usual rules in order to ensure that you comprehend my arguments! That language is evolving is not in dispute here but the use of that fact to excuse poor grammar is.

 

Still, none of this applies to the pointless pastime that is Facebook.

maybe i did paint with a broad brush, but i stand by the original argument.

when i say there is no standard, i mean british english is different than canadian english, or australian english, but they are all considered, officially as English, and they also have different grammar rules. ebonics, unfortunately, isnt English but a mix of slang and even African languages (so they say). of course people dont write the way they speak, but forms of speech do influence writing, like it or not. im not arguing for an abolishment of rules, but arguing that they are changing. with any language, speech comes prior to writing, and though the written format of a language takes on a more prestigeous or official role, and pains are taken for the spirit of ones words to be conveyed on paper, if speech standards in the upper middle class are lowered, it will reflect in writing.

furthermore, i never argued an abandonment of grammar rules, but simply arguing that there is a shift occuring (very small) as we speak, and these popular modes of communication, i think, are a factor. we see poor grammar in msn, emails or whatever private modes of communication, and likewise in academia, where people edit and edify themselves, there is a similar occurence not by discarding the set rules, but sometimes applying them in a secondary usage that isnt particularly common.

spelling is the easisest example. how unlikely do you think it will be that "your" and "you're" will be replaced wiht "yr" and "y're"? i dont think its that unprobable(give it 2 centuries), and i also dont think the english language will be losing much with such a shift. its poor spelling now, bt tres avant-garde, imo.

 

so on the topic of physics, science and technology, and what mode of language one uses there, i think you know that the enlish applied in those fields is worlds different than one applied in the fields of social sciences and or the arts. two PHD's in lets say physics and russian literature would probably have a difficult time understanding one another's thesis' despite having used similar rules. you're right, the mode of language one employs depends on the audience, but i think that in a couple of centuries we'll see shift not only in spelling but in format as well, and today's popular modes of communication, i think, is a factor.

 

i edited, but only to add another point.