WAS THIS REALLY JUSTIFIED?

[Brother Warsameh]

Islamic Extremists Kill Somali Christian as Fifth Believer Martyred in Somalia in the Last Nine Months

 

 

Date: 2008-07-29

 

By Michael Ireland

Chief Correspondent, ASSIST News Service

 

SOMALIA (ANS) -- Islamic extremists shot and killed a Muslim convert to Christianity on July 10, 2008 in Afgyoye, a town 18 miles away from Mogadishu, Somalia's capital. The victim's name was Sayid Ali Sheik Luqman Hussein, and he was 28 years old.

 

ICC (International Christian Concern) www.persecution.org says that on Tuesday, July 8, two Muslim men approached Mr. Hussein and asked him if he faces Mecca when he prays (Mohammed instructed his followers to face the city of Mecca when they pray). Hussein told them that as a Christian, he does not have to face a specific direction to pray because God is omnipresent.

 

The two Muslim men returned on July 10th armed with an AK-47 assault rifle and a semi-automatic handgun and shot Hussein to death.

 

ICC says Hussein's wife went into premature labor and delivered a stillborn baby upon hearing of her husband's murder.

 

According to ICC, Hussein came to Christ from Islam in 2004. He grew in his faith and started to evangelize in the community in which he was working as a teacher. Hussein's pastor described him as the most effective evangelist in his area. One of Hussein's students described him as the godliest man he has ever met.

 

Recently, Islamic extremists have intensified their attacks against Christians in Somalia. In the past nine months alone, five Christians, including Hussein, have been martyred for their faith. The other four martyrs are: David Abdulwahab Mohamed Ali, Da'ud Ali, Mohamed Yusuf and Hassan Mo'alim.

 

ICC's regional manger for Africa, Jonathan Racho, stated, "Somali Christians are paying the ultimate price for their faith in Jesus Christ. Despite the spike in persecution they face, they have chosen to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ to the point of death. Christians should continue to pray and support their brothers and sisters in Somalia."

 

To learn more about the needs of Somali Christians and how you can help them, please contact ICC.

 

ICC is a Washington-DC based human rights organization that exists to help persecuted Christians worldwide. ICC delivers humanitarian aid, trains and supports persecuted pastors, raises awareness in the US regarding the problem of persecution, and is an advocate for the persecuted on Capitol Hill and the State Department.

 

Source: http://www.christiansincrisis.net/content/view/2277/2/

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Barobagaandada meesha kala tag, igaarka.

 

Soomaalidii iyagoo Muslim wada ah isdiloyso, oo wax cusub ma'ahee, so what is especial about this? And how would we believe this? Give us a non-Christian religious source, baliis.

[Jacaylbaro]

The victim's name was

Sayid Ali Sheik Luqman Hussein

[Ibtisam]

I don't see why this man life is so important, with all the killings in Somalia. Why would anyone be surprised. Somali's kill each other based on clan, why would anyone think a preaching Christian will have a chance of survival. He was probably a Christian and the wrong clan and preaching.

 

Warsameh, I thought you got banned, anyway I suggest you and your organisation go to Somalia and take all the Christians to safety. Surely you can provide them a safe home in the west where they can be what they like without fear of death. That way, they don't preach our kids, pretending to be teachers and others won't have to kill them as a result.

[Faynuus]

yes it is justified if he was a muslim, living in a muslim country, preaching christianity in the same muslim community and was trying to deviate and persuade people from their faith. As a christian from other countries or a somali born christian then that would not be justfied becouse there is no complusion in religion.

[Faynuus]

Warsameh i also urge you to learm more about islam in an objective way and i hope you will see the beauty of islam.

[-Serenity-]

If the dismissive, hypocritical and intolerant views above are anything to go by… Somalia will never be society that has any semblance of justice.

[Laba-X]

^ And if the views above are anything to go by, then Somalia will never be a society that has any semblance of religion.

[-Lily-]

We’re not God and if He wills it Somalia can be back on track in no time despite the hopelessness many feel.

 

As for the man who was killed, it’s unfortunate. The deceased man seemed irresponsible with his life when he told people he is a Christian, knowing full well what the risk would be in a lawless country. It would have been better for him to practice in private and let the Lord deal with him.

[N.O.R.F]

Christian Ethopia is killing many Muslims - to the poster.

[Abtigiis]

Originally posted by -Serenity-:

If the dismissive, hypocritical and intolerant views above are anything to go by… Somalia will never be society that has any semblance of justice.

I hate when people repeat words they hardly understand over and over. Some people, in their fervent rush to crown themselves 'civilized intellectuals' end up demagougues. Nin Christian noqday baa la dilay miyaa hadda keentay discussion about tolerance. As a matter of fact, I don't want evagelical missionary works and the christianization of hungry people with no choice, should be tolerated at all.

 

So, serenity hadii siddii Ayaan laguu hayo,good luck.

[NGONGE]

Originally posted by Al Haashimi:

Christian Ethopia is killing many Muslims - to the poster.

Start your own topic about it. He's covering THIS angle.

[N.O.R.F]

I just wanted it to be known to him dee.

[BOB]

Salam Aleikum W.W

 

 

in Islamic law (Sharia) the consensus view is that a male apostate must be put to death unless he suffers from a mental disorder or converted under duress, for example, due to an imminent danger of being killed.

 

A female apostate must be either executed, according to Shafici, Maliki and Hanbali schools of Sunni Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh) or imprisoned until she reverts to Islam as advocated by the Sunni Hanafi school and by Shi'a scholars.

 

 

A minority of medieval Islamic jurists notably the Hanafi jurist Sarakhsi (d. 1090) Maliki jurist Ibn Al-Walid Al-Baji (d. 494 AH) and Hanbali jurist Ibn Taymiyyah (1263-1328) held that apostasy carries no legal punishment.

 

Some contemporary Islamic Shafici jurists, such as the Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa some Shi'a jurists such as Grand Ayatollah Hossein-Ali Montazeri and some jurists, scholars and writers of other Islamic sects have argued or issued fatwas that either the changing of religion is not punishable or is only punishable under restricted circumstances however these minority opinions have not found broad acceptance among the majority of Islamic scholars. Allah s.w Knows Best.

 

 

Brother Warsameh,

 

 

You mention the loss of one life in the hands of 'Muslims' yet ignore to mention the losses of millions and millions of Muslim lives in the hands of Christians.

 

No disrespect but Christianity has been spreading by the sword, knife, gun and etc, but you seem to have forgotten and worse yet you don't even realize the history in-which it came upon.

 

 

1. Millions were tortured and slaughtered in the name of Christianity during the periods of the Arian, Donatist and Albigensian heresies,

 

2. The Crusaders. The European armies were saying as they slaughtered both Christian and Muslim Arabs "Kill them all, God will know his own.

 

3. Europe's Reformation and Counter Reformation era. two thirds of the Christian population of Europe were slaughtered by Christians.

 

4. The African slave trade (remember that?) did you know it claimed the lives of over 10 million people mainly Muslims?

 

5. The Colonial conquests estimates for the number of Native Americans slaughtered by the Europeans in North, Central and South America run as high as 20 million within three generations.

 

6. in the 20th century, Rawanda, 1994 witnessed the slaughter of 900,000 Rwandans in a population that was over 90 % Christian.

 

7. 1992-1995 Bosnia. The genocide of over 300,000 Muslims and the systematic rape of over 100,000 Muslim women by Christian Serbs...Shall I go on?

 

My point is no other Religion has spread its message with so much death and violence than Christianity. Slavery of Africans, giving them a beating and bible...did you know over 75% of those 'slaves' were Muslims?

 

there is so much within the Christian past that no other religion can even think of comparing with. I mean lets take a realistic look at oppression and what it really means and who is being oppressed and MOST DEFINITELY BY WHO.

 

I think people need to understand what ever it is that they worship before trying to understand someone else's religion. where does your religion come from? how did it spread and why? when one can understand those fundamental and basic questions then other things will become much clearer....Allah s.w Knows Best.

 

 

Salam Aleikum W.W

 

 

Peace, Love & Unity.

[Abtigiis]

Ngonge, what is your take on the issue. Quite like you to duck hot issues.