Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia leaders to meet in Asmara

[Old_Observer]

MMA,
Thinking of me/Tigray just twisted and distorted all your thoughts.
You don't have to go opposite to everything I said.
Facts:
Turkey is not impressed with Farmaajo
Eritrea and Ethiopia are begging Djibouti since threatening did not work to lift sanctions
Ethiopia may have warm fuzzy dance with Eritrea right now, wouldn't you dance for 3.7 billion, But as long as Eritreas interest is vendeta on the Afar and Tigray and Djibouti this relation is not guaranteed. I have on good information Berbera is ON.
Not only Berbera, but Lamu is ON as well. Two tribes by the sea in Kenya just declared they are long lost Oromo from 600 years.
Americans will not allow arms embargo on Somalia to be lifted at this time as long as Turkey situation is not straightened, since Somalia can only buy from Turkey through credit second hand etc. Turkey just exported 8billion worth of arms in 9 months.
Djibouti unlike other Somalis keeps low profile hard to know for anyone what he is doing. Excellent relation with Saudi Arabia.

I did not mean to take you away from your train of thought on what I say.

[Tillamook]

This fast-moving waves of rapprochement in the Horn of Africa should be welcomed because it is in the interest of all the people of the Horn to attempt to resolve their political and social differences; or at a minimum—agree upon a unified way forward to do so.

Naturally, the recently deposed Tigray brigands and their loyal secessionist sychophants are not too keen on this happening.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Tilamook  The  tigre are losing power but they are still in  The game debretzion is the leading factor  The gallas and amharas are temporarily in alliance untill  further elections and also amhara political refugees are coming back in huge numbers  from the United States  and Europe.  For us in Somaliland we are always in a good position because  we don't sell our selves nor use Ethiopians or Kenyans against other Somalis we are at peace with all of our neighbours even with the anarchist in Mogadishu the pirate's have been completely defeated by the Somaliland army in tukaraq. And we are still waiting for their military response after almost 9 months no juuq no bullet nada. Other than a few empty threats from cabdi cawar and his spokesmen. Noo xiiniyo just a bit of xin iyo xasarad from the pirates.

[Old_Observer]

7 hours ago, Tillamook said:

This fast-moving waves of rapprochement in the Horn of Africa should be welcomed because it is in the interest of all the people of the Horn to attempt to resolve their political and social differences; or at a minimum—agree upon a unified way forward to do so.

Naturally, the recently deposed Tigray brigands and their loyal secessionist sychophants are not too keen on this happening.

Here are 3 reasons Somalia is even called:

1. Somalia has seat at UN and IGAD and unlike Djibouti or Sudan or Kenya Eritrea and Ethiopia can pressure or manipulate easily. Why would Isayas who openly spoke about Suakin by naming Turkey be so so with Mogadishu?

2. Eritrea has plan to find a job for its soldiers 300,000 of them. War in Yemen can only take some, but peace keeping in Somalia can take 30-40 thousand if they get OK from US and UAE will contribute or pay the bill. Eritrea then displaces Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya and has monopoly on Somalia.

3. Eritrea can then try and play dirty with Puntland and Somaliland to make them third step and disrupt what ever plans UAE has ports. Chock Djibouti by creating problems with ONLF or Shinnile and take more of Ethiopia. Here controls both Djibouti and Ethiopia. The Oromo need Eritrea a lot in the internal affairs with Tigray and Amhara.

 

If you are thinking of fuzzy business before putting your house in order, You must be in the clouds.

 

Ask yurself this: How many times have we seen Eritrea Sudan hugging, boxing, then kissing, then threatening..all the time.

That is typical African diplomacy, but here there is UAE with strategy and money and everyone is saying how high to jump.

 

Its so funny. All the talk and your thinking is always Tigray this Tigray that. You are not alone. Both Eritrea and Ethiopians are also the same. It looks like only US knows what has happened.

 

 

[Tillamook]

8 hours ago, Old_Observer said:

Here are 3 reasons Somalia is even called:

1. Somalia has seat at UN and IGAD and unlike Djibouti or Sudan or Kenya Eritrea and Ethiopia can pressure or manipulate easily. Why would Isayas who openly spoke about Suakin by naming Turkey be so so with Mogadishu?

2. Eritrea has plan to find a job for its soldiers 300,000 of them. War in Yemen can only take some, but peace keeping in Somalia can take 30-40 thousand if they get OK from US and UAE will contribute or pay the bill. Eritrea then displaces Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya and has monopoly on Somalia.

3. Eritrea can then try and play dirty with Puntland and Somaliland to make them third step and disrupt what ever plans UAE has ports. Chock Djibouti by creating problems with ONLF or Shinnile and take more of Ethiopia. Here controls both Djibouti and Ethiopia. The Oromo need Eritrea a lot in the internal affairs with Tigray and Amhara.

 

If you are thinking of fuzzy business before putting your house in order, You must be in the clouds.

 

Ask yurself this: How many times have we seen Eritrea Sudan hugging, boxing, then kissing, then threatening..all the time.

That is typical African diplomacy, but here there is UAE with strategy and money and everyone is saying how high to jump.

 

Its so funny. All the talk and your thinking is always Tigray this Tigray that. You are not alone. Both Eritrea and Ethiopians are also the same. It looks like only US knows what has happened.

 

 

OO, it seems you’ve become an amazing fortune telling machine to speak with such clarity about the future of the Horn🤣

[Old_Observer]

12 hours ago, Tillamook said:

OO, it seems you’ve become an amazing fortune telling machine to speak with such clarity about the future of the Horn🤣

No need t risk fortune telling when you have reality in your face. Eritrea is not new to Somalia. Personal grudges with dictators are important factor in diplomacy and actions there.

Eritrea/Isayas from past experience with Somalia:

1. He prefers one f the houses in Mogadishu with govt to al-shabab that has been his preference

2. He had his disappointments with both Somaliland and Puntland as far as ONLF or other past conflicts are concerned. Isayas will never forget the indirect exchange he had with Adde Muse about what Isayas did in 2006 and Isayas country men did with the Boqor.

3. Djibouti will always remain competition and winner to Eritrea, but now has added bonus of Eritrea pleasing UAE.

4. For first time Eritrea is troubled with ONLF. They don't want to let go of such valuable asset/friend, but ONLF would rather be found dead than work with any Oromo organization which Eritrea needs now more than anything in the world.

5. Ethiopia right now can't delay any american or UAE orders let alone to say NO or say Its difficult...

 

These I think are facts you can agree with.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

What use is ONLF to isias afowerqi  what is it that he likes about ONLF that much he got back badme Ethiopia is  friendly towards Eritrea what does he gain from ONLF.

[Old_Observer]

1 hour ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

What use is ONLF to isias afowerqi  what is it that he likes about ONLF that much he got back badme Ethiopia is  friendly towards Eritrea what does he gain from ONLF.

ONLF is the only one that can operate in 3 African countries "legitimately".

 

[Old_Observer]

2 minutes ago, Oodweyne said:

And there lies the "potential opportunities" for anyone who is minded to create a bit of political headache for some other country within this "three-legged-granted-legitimacy" in which ONLF seems to have it from the three countries in question. 

And also there lies the "acute danger" of ONLF finding itself being forced to became a "political stooge" of one kind or another for some country against the other, even if their interests, inherently, may be the opposite of that.  

On top of that the perfect example was when somebody wanted to stop oil business in kililka, they needed a "good" name to be used and viola was ONLF to kill the Chinese and Ethiopian workers for few million bucks.

I read somewhere that if a nationalist movement takes too long is always at risk of becoming a racket. The Eritreans were close to being so if it wasn't for the Tigray. Still now many of Eritrea commanders are involved in trafficking.

 

[Old_Observer]

Oodweyne,

Spare couple of minutes and read this article on how the Bush administration was ready to put Eritrea on the list of countries sponsoring terrorism for Eritrea's link with Tamil Tigers.

 

Daya Gamage – US Bureau Asian Tribune

Washington, D.C. 01 September (Asiantribune.com): Sri Lanka’s Minister of Media and Information Anura Priyadharshana Yapa told a press briefing in Colombo yesterday that he would ask the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to probe into the United States Senate foreign relations committee documentation that the Government of Eritrea is giving assistance to his country’s separatist Tamil Tiger rebels saying “no sovereign government would assist a known terrorist organization.”

The Senate foreign relations committee’s findings that the Eritrean government is assisting Tamil Tiger rebels was revealed by the ‘Asian Tribune’ quoting part of the document that mentioned Sri Lanka.

The document, dated 15 December 2006, was authored by the then chairman of the foreign relations committee Richard Lugar, now the ranking member of the same committee, for the perusal of the U.S. Departments of State and Defense.

The ‘Asian Tribune’ report said "Unless the committee is satisfied with the data collected by its staff that traveled to four continents covering approximately twenty countries the final report wouldn’t have authoritatively mention that the "Government of Eritrea" is providing "direct military assistance" to the Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka."

At a press briefing in Washington on August 17 State Department’s Assistant Secretary for Africa revealed that the Bush Administration is seriously contemplating declaring Eritrea as country that assist terrorism that will follow with imposing embargos on this country in the African Horn.

The ‘Asian Tribune’ contends that the Government of Sri Lanka needs to get through to the six members of the Lugar staff who completed the investigative report for the Senate foreign relations committee to get into the details of the Eritrean-Tamil Tiger connection that the final report did not carry. Breaking the Eritrean-Tamil Tiger rapport the ‘Asian Tribune’ said that those staff members and the Senators who form the Foreign Relations Committee could shed additional light for the Government of Sri Lanka to get to the bottom of the issue.

Once armed with hard evidence the Government of Sri Lanka will be in a better position to take up the matter with the United Nations as both Sri Lanka and Eritrea are sovereign members of the World Body.

Eritrea’s neighbor Ethiopia, which once formed a single nation, is an important ally of the United States in her war against ‘Global Terrorism’. The U.S. has already accused and collected data that the Government of Eritrea, an authoritarian regime, is aiding and abetting rebels within the borders of Ethiopia.

In the light of the U.S. Senate foreign relations committee revelation that the authoritarian regime of Eritrea is having a close rapport with Sri Lanka’s Liberation Tigers who are in an armed struggle to destabilize the democratic government of Sri Lanka, the Sri Lankan regime should be extra cautious at a time when reports emanate from Ethiopia that Sri Lanka’s ‘peace facilitator’ Norway is being impeached in that country for meddling in its internal affairs.

In her investigation to find out the truth about Eritrea-Tamil Tiger rapport it is in the interest of Sri Lanka’s territorial integrity, sovereignty and the democratic system, and most importantly in her struggle to defeat Tamil Tiger terrorism, to find out if there is a covert alliance between Norway and the Government of Eritrea to destabilize Ethiopia, a country the United States consider an important ally in the war against global terrorism.

Norway, the current facilitator of the peace arrangement between Sri Lanka government and the Tamil Tigers and the underwriter of the now almost defunct 2002 Ceasefire Agreement, is being accused by the Rajapaksa administration and other anti-Tiger Tamil political movements as partial to the separatist Tigers. Despite the international community, including the United States, consider Norway as the legitimate facilitator of peace between the two warring factions, the Scandinavian country has been viewed with suspicion in this South Asian nation. As much as Norway has lost her credibility in Ethiopia it has lost all confidence and credibility in Sri Lanka who are opposed to Tamil Tiger terrorism.

The scenario that has emerged due to the U.S. Senate foreign relations committee authoritatively mentioning the Government of Eritrea assisting Tamil Tiger rebels in one of its Congressional documents, it is in the interest of Sri Lanka to fix this jig-saw-puzzle of this triumvirate Norway-Eritrea-LTTE in her own national interest at least invigorating its sagging and ineffective overseas public diplomacy.

In fact, ‘direct assistant’ from the Government of Eritrea to the Tamil Tigers obviously do not consist of canned food and other groceries.

- Asian Tribune -

[Old_Observer]

6 hours ago, Oodweyne said:

Hence, this is the reason he had "rented-out", I believe, his country, firstly, to the Israelis, who now runs inside in Eritrea the largest "Listening station" in which Israel has it anywhere in the world outside of Israel itself. And secondly, this is also the reason why he rented-out, again, his country, to KSA/UAE coalition forces and their war against the Iranian-backed Yemenis. 

Your guess is correct. It was just financial with the Tamils. He also used to trade in North Korea weapons with South Sudan and at one time he used to support the Houthi when the Yemen president was friend of Zenawi, Al Bashir and A. Yusuf..remember there was big news of Iran having a shop around Assab.

Israel, USA, Egypt has never been rejected anything they wanted in Eritrea. These are countries that can do damage to him in a Mogadishu minute.

Soon he will start some quarel or conflict in Sudan. He had 4 Darfur organizations at one time.

He is a fiesty guy and since he has absolute control of his shindig, and is safe from the big guys, he feels he can act that way everywhere.

He is very angry with his kins Tigray and Afar since they are the border people to his shindig and have never been intimidated by him. When Eritrea was Qatar boy Zenawi cut diplomatic relations with Qatar on behalf of Djibouti. The Qatari behaved and reconciled with Djibouti who was friends with UAE then.

 

 

 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Afewerqi is a mad man he doesnt apply policy because of the long term but mostly on the short term all small gains and some times no gsins at all in his policy and alliances he makes in the region. it was mostly due to him being isolated by the tigres of Ethiopia.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Yes you are right on the money Oodweyne  afewerqi doesn't need to attend the conference since he is on the winning side it's  Jabuuti that needs peace its in a very problematic position now.  Since the cheeseman is now In alliance with afewerqi and has called the lifting on the sanctions on the mad man of afewerqi. And all afewerqi is waiting for instructions from Abu Dhabi and I think he wants to  punish his adveseries Jabuuti and geele always played the terrorist card on afewerqi. Back in 2007 when afewerqi invited all Irhaabist to asmara. Geele called the French the Americans to counter afewerqi effort that's why sharif dalxiis was selected in Jabuuti. The Jabuuti Eritrean conflict is deeper than ras domaira and the pows.  Its UAE it's the port issues it has even to do with geele being to close to the tigre ruling clique of azebmesfin seyoem mesfin bereket Simon  late Meles debretzion and old man sebhet nega.  Afewerqi has now some relieve he gets funding from Abu Dhabi he is in good relations with fresh Prince abiye ahmed.  He got the cheeseman of villa amisom in his pocket it's a good year for the xamasien Christian dictator.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Yes afewerqi is a predator a real hunter he has allot of  good skills he trained much of the  tigre soldiers of Ethiopia. This man went rogue joined two different rebel movements created the later one shacbiyaa. He aided jihadist at the very height of the so called war on teror. He did every trick in  the book two fight all his neighbors  and suddenly the Failmaajo fellow of villa amisom thinks he can forge an alliance  based on good will with the asmara dictator a man who  locked all his opposition up is supreme judge and jury in the asmara court. This man afewerqi the mad man of asmara  will go against  all ods to achieve his objectives even if he has to support jihadists or Bantu mercenaries in villa amisom. Aslong as he gets the mission done that's his  motto and it's going good for him for now.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

The xamasien dictator is in Jeddah with maxammad bin Salman iyo oday salman u dhutinaya. The Saudis have a base in Jabuuti stadium size country.Mr cumar  geele relationships with the sacuudis is pretty good. Something is missing from the puzzle. I have critical question maybe Dr Oodweyne can solve the puzzle. If the ilma sheikh zayid make the policies for the sacuudis. Who makes policy for qataris. Since the Turks lira had a big setback. The Iranians are isolated  by Trump  or the deep state. Since Oodweyne is not that impressed with the German fellow trump 

Who keeps qatar alive.