Kashafa Posted March 26, 2007 Xiin, What you're saying is all good in theory. But will it fly in practical terms ? It goes without saying that we are actually conversing in English, not Somali, not Arabic. In English, the term extremist = authentic muslim, in Arabic. Example: My cousin applied for this job and the dude interviewing him asked him, conversationally: You're not one of them serious Muslims(ie, extremist) are you ? Cousin asked what he meant, Dude says: Like you don't fast or pray five times and do all that extremist stuff, Of course, Cousin goes on to give macalinka a lecture about what Islam and Muslim means. I just don't think it's pragmatic. By the way, when you use the word 'moderate', you're opening up a unneccasery door for debate: Moderate, relative to whom ??. So, I just use Muslim. Period. Or Islamist to describe my political outlook. Whussup Ngonge dawg A bit short on time here but lemme say this. If you think that your academic detachment about the crucial situation in Somalia passes for wisdom or anything else, you're mucho deluded. Stoicism, adeerow, does not equal masculinity. Nor does principled passion(your dig at me) equal hot air. Well-equipped with an foriegn passport, well-established(or so you think) in the Diaspora, anything happening back in the homeland to you is simply an academic exercise in futility. Something to entertain you while you pen one of your 'Somalis-are-so-illiogical' diatribes. See what I did up there ^^. That's called a false assumption. You could very well be engaged and helpin' out back home. Even tho I don't know you, I went ahead and labelled you. Not cool. Take your false flagrant charges against young men back and I'll retract my speculation Nice n' easy now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alle-ubaahne Posted March 26, 2007 ^^U kala dhig dhig aan ku dhahay, I know xiin marmar inuu banooniga kala-dheerta ku qaatee! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElPunto Posted March 26, 2007 Originally posted by xiinfaniin: CG , There are weak Muslims. There are ghulats (extremists). But there are also moderates. A wine-drinking Muslim is a weak Muslim, and not a moderate. Ideally, we should all strive to be in moderate category. Taliban, seems to think weak Muslims are moderates. Adeer - I think you have strayed off the path on this one. By definition - this umma is to take the middle road - so I object to the use of the term 'moderate' - as if this religion is inherently extreme and we must moderate it(ie. a Muslim = psycho and 'moderate' Muslim = someone we can get along with). By definition - we're supposed to be moderate - Muslims have been specifically warned against extremism. Also this label reeks of what a Muslim is supposed to 'conform' to as dictated by non-Muslims especially those in the West. I really dislike this term. As to the other end of the spectrum - a wine-drinker is a non-practising Muslim. Strictly speaking - he is out of the fold of Islam given the severity of this sin but if we take 'Muslim' as implying an amorphous general identity - then this person is non-practising. Thus, from my perspective one can be: (Practicing) Muslim Extremist Muslim Non-practicing Muslim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacpher Posted March 27, 2007 Khat chewing tobacco smoking wine drinking sbaaro-profeteering war-lord supporting hijab bashing With Amxaaro kissing You've got Soomaalinimo, midnimo, dadnimo, sharafnimo, gobanimo and all the nimo of TFG out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites