Saalax Posted August 18, 2018 56 minutes ago, Oodweyne said: And here you show your sheer illiteracy totally and completely. And you even did it better than I could actually do justice to it. And by that I mean, the first definition of state (or government), just in case you are that eager to learn, is its ability to firstly run and administer, secondly to control and protect, and finally it's to secure its internal peace, of every inch of the territories its claiming to be its "sovereign government" over it. This is the first legal definition of government. And since, that is not the case with Mr Farmaajo and his Villa Somalia's crew, particularly where Somaliland is concern, then that effectively means they indeed fail their own vainglorious assertion of being a government over Somaliland (in real facts on the ground sort of way). This is incidentally the reason (and the sole reason) that the "powers-that-be" have effectively squashed away in his DP World complains to the UNSC. It's also the reason that the International Community (IC) have said a "fat No" to him when he said that "Somaliland's Special Arrangement" (SSA) scheme in which aid is directly provided and it's given to Somaliland's line-ministries without going through Mogadishu, should be ended. And they humiliatingly refused him in a point-plank-manner to do what he had asked of them. Or at least they said so to his Minister of planning, who was pushing the end of Somaliland's SSA deal with the international community (IC). Hence, so much of a government that can't actually control, much less said about decide where international support should go to within its nominal territorial country is not actually something worthy to which one should write a "glowing pean" for them. But that will only make sense if only you knew the first thing (or the legal criteria) in which governments are measured on in the real world. Somaliland airspace is controlled from Mogadishu. Somalia government obviously is not at full capacity yet but it is getting there step by step. It is much closer than the "ictiraaf koolaid" the residents of northern Somalia were getting fed for close to 30 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Oodweyne said: That is your wishful thinking talking again, my friend. For one thing is that the weakness of Lebanon is not "bug" (or a problem they simply caught like so much of a passing flu). But it's a "feature". And it's a feature, for Lebanon was created that way by the colonial carve-up that had set it up in the first place, since the "different-faith-based-community" of that country never had anything to do with each other before the French's colonial administrators have decided to "yoke" them together in the after-math of the end of the decrepit Ottoman's Empire in Levant. And secondly, Somaliland, unlike Lebanon which is a country one election away from total collapse, is not so fragile. And indeed the regular election we do actually shows the world that we indeed are very much better than what they have in places like Lebanon (just to use your criteria of who is fragile and therefore deserve less of a recognition). And in that sense, don't count your eggs in believing that the world has said no (in a lasting sense of that word) to Somaliland's quest. For the world is very much a "dynamic mode", right about now, where all the old rules are tossed out of the window, where the likes of certain Mr Trump is running roughshod over all that was agreed on before, where nations's alliances are form or drop in ever dizzying rate in every passing week. So, it's no use to keep on resting yourself on your "old assumption" of what the world have said it previously on any issue under the sun. For the world of even Mr Obama's era is over much less said about what others may have said about Somaliland's quest for her legal right since 1991. No it is the reality. The west is not bothered about Somalia having a weak government as-long as it works. As for Somaliland region it doesn't even register in their radar in regards to "recognition". Somaliland had their chance in early 2000s when Mogadishu was in turmoil and there was no permanent government but that window is closed now. As the English idiom goes It's no use crying over spilled milk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted August 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Oodweyne said: Wrong again, mate. For its the distance Mars is to earth will be the similar distance Mogadishu is to actually "running and ruling" Somaliland, ever again. But that is something you will have difficulty in computing your head with it due to your sheer illiteracy. So whatever floats your boats, dear lad, is actually fine with me in here, mate. Somaliland is not any different than the many federal states (Puntland, Jubbaland etc). End of the day they will have to learn to behave and accept the reality that Somalia is not going anywhere. Somaliland has failed to gain recognition close to 30 years so the other federal states know there is no out option and learned from Somaliland's failure in that front. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted August 18, 2018 They are asking Biixi something he can do nothing about it. The little buget is already went way. Same stories and same problems. I told,that long time ago somaliland can not survive alone. Jabuuti is struggling even with it is ports. Even the birth rate is going down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 18, 2018 And duufaan who do you think Somaliland needs the aid beggers of the amisom bunker in down south. Seriously who do we need the pirates or the jihadist extremists. I mean the koonfurians claim they have farmland and fertile land yet they have famines. Somalidu waxay tidha ninkaa aad kabaha katolanayaid kabihisa laeega. Qaar baddan baa xita kabbala. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted August 18, 2018 Still Moqdisho is booming. South somalia is furtle land with two rivers. With peace and solar energy people there do not need anybody. Inflation was always lower because no need of food export. If you got some money, you can use for other things. When peace comes the whole Hargeysa will leave and the old people will find themself alone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 18, 2018 If it if that's what I hear If wishes were horses beggers would ride . South Somalia is fragile with out law and order and peace and tranquillity the rivers even if you had the Amazone or the nile river it's pretty useless saaxib alshabaab will come and detoate themselves and the bantus will be running around saving the day and doing the police work . Since your leaders incompetent morally and ethically corrupt. If you koonfurians focused on your Mogadishu and your Ugandan friends and how to defeat shabaab instead of dreaming of Somaliland that Somaliland should come back to xamar. War nimnyhow walanweyn tashada. Hargeysa idin ma imanayso not in a 1000 years. Waxa ka dhow Netanyahu oo ashahaata ooh Iran la heshiyaa than Somalikanders visiting xamar or living In xamar. As the great cigaal once said meeshi Somali nobugtay wanu ka bogsanay.. never again will hargeysa be ruled from Mogadishu ilaah ba ma qorin. Ilaah baa Somaliland noo gooyey qadaralahu mashafaca. And there is no way back marka samra adeer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul Posted August 18, 2018 Xaaji, dont listen to Saalax and DUufaan,just enjoy living in your container or as some people say 'contaminated container'.You might even get that elusive ictiraaf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted August 18, 2018 Dadku caqligiisu wuu joogaa wax walba sida qoraxda bay igu cad-yihiin. Wadada kaliya oo laamiga ah ama hargaysa dhex marta waa tii aabe siyaad uga tagay allaha u naxariisto. Dayac-tir dambe maysan helin walina waa laysku buuranayaa aydoo gawaari badan oo midigta ka socda lagasoo iibsaday imaaraadka dad badana ku wax-yooloobeen markay ka degayaan. Wakaaladda biyahu waa tii aabe siyadd uga tagay ayadoo cadadka dadkuna sii kordhayo maalinba maalinta ka dambaysa, lagana yaabo in dad badan haraad ku hayo guriga casaabaddu ku taliso meelaan sidaa uga fogayn iska daa inay maydhaane. Dhismayaasha maamulku degan yahay waa tii dawladdii hore ka dhistay hargaysa iyo magaalooyinja kaleba isteeshinadda, iskoolada, maxkamadaha iwm. Dekedda berbera sidoo kale Wadada isku xirta koonfurta iyo waqooyiga inta dadku ku baxsadayba waa wax qabadkii kacaankii ducada iyo barakada badnaa. Dad badan yaa ilmo soo dhaaftay markaan wax ka waydiiyay noloshadoo hore iyo maanta siiba dadka danyarta ah waana xaqiiq jirta xataa caymis dadku ma leh, qofkii gaari ka dhaca waa in ehelkiisu raadiyo qabiilkii darawalka. Casaabadan waxay xoogga saartaa wax siinta dadka ladan ama si kale haddii loo dhigo (wan wayn subag sii) waxay laaluush ku bixisaa iyo dhaqaale badan isku dirka beelaha, xuduud beena iyo soo jiidashada siyaasiyiin aan mabda'lahayn oo maalinba meel u guura. Saalax waa idinka saxan yahay farmaajo waa hogasmiyaha soomaaliya oo sharcigaa,xaq bayna u leeyihiin shacabkaa danyartaa inay mashaariicda horumarinta ee aduunku bixiyo ay qaybtooda ka helaan, waxaana hubaal ah inay qaybtooda iyo ka badanba heli lahaayeen haddaysan casaabadassu been u sheegin. Mana dhacdeen in caruur yar yar oo lafahoodu jilicsan yihiin iskool wax barasho u lugeeyaan 39km maalin walba qabow iyo kulymaylba. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 18, 2018 May I remind you aabahan u kasheekeyanayo ma baadari baa masiixiyinta uun baa yidha father cheese . Mise aaabahan afweyne eeh u gooni kasheekeynayo mawaxaweye santa Claus oo dumarka cabuudwaaq iyo gedo oo dhan isaga qabay oo ciyaalka ka dhalay aabo uun bay leeyihin sidi ki aarsaalay. Ileen waxani wax ka badan eh general afweyne ma dadkoo oo dhan bu kudi jiray eeh ku noola garbahaaray iyo beledxaawo. Ileen tan oo kalle now let's be fair to general afweyne the dictator worshiped adored by the gedo and abudwaaq community. What ever social economic progress he made . He destroyed it with his own policy and hands when he ordered Rhodesian war planes to Bomb Hargeysa as for berbera so called run way construction one would say Somaliland was than part of the now defunct Somali republic we pay tax we had right to these development projects which ceased to exist in our eyes in 1979 when we declared war on afweyne and his clanish family led by slaanti xumayd mama khadija aad ugu yeedhi jirteen habaarqabtadi plus maslax the son hebel xaaji massale. And axmed selebaaan duufle who was doing the dhegdhegeyn and gaani who was their field operator. I know gooni misses those time kibirki iyo gawaadhidi aad is daba eryi jirteeen way dhamaatay. Hada waxa idin aabo ah nin kikiyu ah oo tima adag ah oo madow bide aya Imika idin aabo good luck Jonathan mid uu eeg iyo Joseph kabila. Ileen aabihini hore General afweyne ana xabaasha ku riday eh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted August 18, 2018 People should either abandon tribalism and elect God-fearing competent leaders to govern them or keep their mouths shut. There is no other choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted August 18, 2018 The thing I can never understand is: how can a man get elected to an office and accumulate so much wealth without being asked a single question about the source of his wealth? Where is the law of the land? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted August 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Abdul said: Xaaji, dont listen to Saalax and DUufaan,just enjoy living in your container or as some people say 'contaminated container'.You might even get that elusive ictiraaf. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duufaan Posted August 18, 2018 No roads after 27 year of autonomos http://khaatumonews24.com/11598-2/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted August 19, 2018 Saalax, Reer Hargeysa ha ogaadaan madaxweyne Farmaajo has bigger issues on his plates ee marka the local leaders should be suffice to handle this. Same way Yariisoow handles gobolka Banaadir, so Waqooyi Galbeed should be handled by the local ruler Muuse Local. By the way, does Hargeysa even have duqa magaalada ama duqa degmada? Waligeey meel kama aqrin if he even exists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites