maakhiri1 Posted August 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Old_Observer said: Addisstandard is like Jawar but from different side. All these outlets throw in totaly fake news in between all the other articles. Most likely this is fake or was sent in anticipation. All those headlines which were given beforehand to be announced from different corners like: Iley killed Iley arrested Iley declared article 39 Iley refused meeting in Addis Ababa Somali kilil Assembly has deposed Iley Somali conference in Dirdawa has deposed Iley All came out, but none is true. Only true is those paid anti-peace elements in Jigjiga went ahead and created some mess expecting for defence forces to come and take over Jigjiga. so what is your version and happened? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted August 4, 2018 Is this for real? Are sane Soomaalis defending tuugii weynaa, the Tigrey stooge Cabdi Ileey? I cannot believe this. Nothing, no one will be worse than the stooge's leadership in Soomaali Galbeed. He and his loyal Liyuu militia dantooda ayee fiirsanayaan, for they know what they had done to Reer Soomaali Galbeed in the dozen years years they mercilessly ruled. Xasuuqii, kufsigii, jirdilkii iyo barakicintii. It is better to be under the occupation of cadowga you know than kan kula dhashay haddana kula dhaqmaayo si ka saxariir badan Xabashada. Cabdi Ileey dad badan ayuu gaalshire ku aruuriee in the 12 years maanta markiisa waayee madaxa hasoo qooysto. His Tigrey masters won't save him, for they are as powerless as he is now. We can also see how desperate they are using their biggest stooge and his ruthless arxandaran militia for the final stand in order to weaken the new prime minister. I hope Cabi Axmed gives them a thorough beating because for the future wannabe stooges in Soomaali Galbeed ha arkaan their sycophancy will never save regardless how completely they followed for years. They will be discarded just as a used diaper. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cadnaan1 Posted August 4, 2018 The last few weeks jigjiga youths were protesting against illey calling illey down and today they're dying for him. Confuse.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted August 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar said: It is better to be under the occupation of cadowga you know than kan kula dhashay haddana kula dhaqmaayo si ka saxariir badan Xabashada. For MMA to say he would rather have Habesha and their Oromo stooges loot Somali land because there is a brutal Somali dictator ruling the country, is not much different from the same argument other Somalis have used against Siyaad Barre. No amount of death and destruction Illey ever did can be compared to Siyaad's tacadi and absolute annihilation of entire society in Northern Somalia. We all know where you stand on that issue. Saxib, we need to see the bigger picture. Nobody gives a dime about Illey and his deranged stooges in Jigjiga. If that dicatator can be removed by Somalis in peace or in battle, every Somali on SOL would support it. But let us not celebrate Habesha stooge Abiy with more weapons trying to displace our people to loot our resources more than that is already done by the brutal Habesha State. I think we should choose our words carefully because sometimes we all say things to score political points in debates. Let us hope this new conflict ends well and our people are safe in the end. We all want a peaceful, prosperous and independent Somali Galbeed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yunis Posted August 5, 2018 Holac, cut this emotional bigger picture nonsense and Oromia are occupying Somali region. Ask yourself how did it come to this?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted August 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Yunis said: Holac, cut this emotional bigger picture nonsense and Oromia are occupying Somali region. Ask yourself how did it come to this?. Ask Abiy why he wants a regime change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holac Posted August 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Ducale said: When you hear different clans from kililka happy to see anything that will remove Iley and his liyyu, that should tell you it's way past Somalinimo. The only people who are crying the loudest about Abiy sinister intentions are Iley's and onlf community. Why should two somali who live in the same region have different reaction to something that directly effect them both? Oromo have every right to send in their troops to the headquarters of the infamous liyyu and iley. Jigjiga is the capital of beesha Iley and has been for long time. Somali yaan waxba qalbigooda lagu xadin sheeko yaro gaaban. Somalinimo aan la aaminsanayn yaan wakhti iyo energy lagu lumin. I completely disagree saxib. Occupation is not the solution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dahireeto Posted August 5, 2018 Oromo invasion is about to begin. Fasten your seatbelts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Yunis said: Holac, cut this emotional bigger picture nonsense and Oromia are occupying Somali region. Ask yourself how did it come to this?. I don't think you want to be confused with the real facts, do you. Here is a simple one: share of the oil for kililka. Iley is one who could get the highest if that oil is to come out of that ground. Any other person will settle for much less. Trade route: The groups from around Shinnile are no match for the Oromo and for sure the Oromo is fighting to control this route in their name or using those groups as name brand. I don't want to overloead you these two are just most elementary. Remember whether its land, trade, banks, camels, grass, waterwell there is always economic reasons behind any conflict. This one has a lot of other factors as well. Simple question. The somali has the highest autonomy the highest capability in that empire. Why do you want to throw away this just because you don't like Iley. Don't you need this autonomy to build a society that is complete Somali no outside cultural pollution or minimum. Why can't you depose Iley and you want somebody else who has self interest in the matter to do it for you? If the Oromo replace Iley they replace him with their own not with your choice. That is just fact of life all over the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted August 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Ducale said: Oromo have every right to send in their troops to the headquarters of the infamous liyyu and iley. Jigjiga is the capital of beesha Iley and has been for long time. You are ready to embrace new overlords? Whatever happened to Oromo cawaan waaye? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted August 5, 2018 MMA, Iley is without doubt evil but do you really want to substitute Oromo oppressors to Tigray? We can' get rid off Iley and be free. It doesn't have to be one or the other. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted August 5, 2018 I saw a discussion among Ethiopians of same incident that happened during Haileslassie in Eritrea. Eritrea was in federation in Ethiopia just like kililka is now. The Ethiopians wanted to get rid of too much autonomy of Eritrea but did not have the votes. They prevented some members of the assembly from coming to the meeting, they brought armed men into the assembly and made the assembly members sign that federation no more. Forced the president of federal state of Eritrea to resign. He joined the armed struggle. In the same year Eritreans started armed struggle for independence and in 30 years they got it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted August 5, 2018 Guy's gallas are our biggest enemy they want to landgrab and steal land we have to push them back ileey is a Somali problem we can deal later on but we need to stop.gallas.interfering with our domestic affairs because there is ethnic federalism in place in Ethiopia if the gallas want war we give them war the gallas want to abuse power qeero opdo and this new fellow Ahmed abiye they want to use their new political power to punish others ileen gallas have been slaves of the xabashas for to long tigray and amxara. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites