Strangers or Parents?

[Valenteenah.]

I did business and got a distinction in my final-year project at college too. What's your point?

 

U're a snob if you look down on other people's choices. Study Business by all means, but you can't label other fields of study as 'useless' like AJ did over there.

 

Anyway, having a degree in business or even an MBA doesn't mean you'll get filthy rich. Xu might get there before you. Who knows...she might end up becoming Somalia's answer to Stanley Kubrick!

[Sky]

you didnt answer my valuable question plus why did you bring up that girl xu in the conversation. i was talking to you wasnt i? i mean i agree it was pretty dumb of aj to call film studies useless, i would never do that. but you gotta admit wanting a well paid job is not snobbish.

 

just believe me that i will be filthy rich, am doing everything Allah swt wants and some. must admit, i asked Allah to become rich, so i think it will happen. plus im a genius in making money. i earned a lot of money selling used cellphones, so i am must be one of these guys that just have 'it'.

 

Who knows...she might end up becoming Somalia's answer to Stanley Kubrick!

who knows, but it would have been better if you study film studies 'on the side' and have something more solid to fall back on, while doing the thing you love.

 

im speaking of experience, my dad wanted to send me to the art academy because i excell in sculpturing and drawing. but it didnt work, because art academy is useless. i just do my thing and draw and sculpt as a hobby, even though i have been slacking off these days.

[J.Lee]

Originally posted by Xu:

I have a good career plan and a

back-up

plan and Allah has given me enough intelligence and confidence

So what is the beef?

 

Most Somali elders I come across think I'm too Tall (when I'm really not, I just tend to wear high heels which give the impression that i'm 6'1)or have a "tomboyish" attitude. How do I know of their thoughts/feeling, they tell me, share it with me regardless of where we are at or whether I know them or not especially when it comes to my height.

 

As I matured I learned to bear it whereas before I would just roll my eyes and say "and that is your problem because....." or "Mamo, what is your point?" cause their unwanted "advice" would bother me to the point I'd wish gassing people wasn't illegal.

 

So just nod your head, smile and say "waa sax" regardless of what they are advicing you about.

[Nomen nescio]

Originally posted by sky.african:

quote:

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Who knows...she might end up becoming Somalia's answer to Stanley Kubrick!

who knows, but it would have been better if you study film studies 'on the side' and have something more solid to fall back on, while doing the thing you love.

U must have lots of nerves to call what i said "dumb" and reiterate my statment one paragraph later!!!

 

Seriously, if you do this again i am gonna have to email the psychiatrist in charge of your ward at the retard facility you're currently milking tax payers money at and ask him to eliminate your internet time.

 

Fahamtu??

[Sky]

hehehe sorry bro. collateral damage, collateral damage. needed to save my own a.ss by letting yours kicked by velvet's high heels.

[Legend of Zu]

Originally posted by Action Jackson:

I believe (and its my personal opinion) that majors like film studies, social studies, philosophy, history, International Relations, Women Studies, Music, Arts and Information Systems are wothless majors... and yeah.. u read that right, Information Systems is as useless of a major as the those i mentioned.. I just dont understand why some ppl wake up to go to school for 4 years to study something they know they wont get a decent job with!!! most of my friends who majored in Information Systems are actually jobless or working on some $13/hour jobs!!! some even went back for a second major...

Dang....^^^^ That is the most short sighted statement I have read so far in SOL (may be i am exaggrating) but seriously that is strait-laced and judgemental statement..and one more thing..your friends' inability to get jobs are no parameters for success and failure...

 

May be You want all somalis and ppl of the world to be Engineers? or doctors perhaps? or all of them to be business men/women?

 

I wonder what you will say about the mechanics, welders, builders and tradesmen?

 

Salaamaat

[Valenteenah.]

^^ Those earn more than professionals these days.

 

Sky,

 

Was the question I didnt answer this one -> "am i a snob then or are you dying me to ask your hand? seriously."?

 

If so, the answer is ur a snob.

 

Would you like to know how I came to that conclusion? More often than not, your choice of degree doesnt have much to do with securing a 'steady job and a stable life'. There's more to it than that.

 

These days, except for some specialist fields, the fact that you have a degree suffices. Employers are more interested in transferable academic skills and whether you have appropriate working experience than your subject-matter.

 

Wanting a well-paid job might not be snobbish, but assuming that only a few, 'acceptable' career paths will give you such a job is snobbish.

 

Anyway, best of luck with becoming a business Mogul. Ambition is a fantastic thing.

[Gediid]

I know quite a good number of Somalis in the IT world making well over six figures.Maybe the folks you mentioned are seeking IT work in the wrong city.If thats the case ask them to try out areas where the IT industries are.Entry level positions usually are in the mid 50's depending on ones ability to negotiate.

Now back to the topic I think we all need to realize that if a parent reprimands you its normally as a result of good intentions on their part and a feeling of collective responsibilty for all Somali kids.Its upto you to accept or refuse but however one decides to approach that I would advise that it be done with utmost respect.

[NGONGE]

AJ, going to UNIVERSITY has never been about finding a job, saaxib. If that’s what you think then you’re missing the whole point of studying. Those that want to study for the single reason of finding a job should take Confucius’s advice above and become “

Welders, builders and tradesmenâ€! Somewhere along the way, the whole idea of university education has been corrupted and 90% of those at University (and those planning to go) viewed these great institutions as some form of method to get a job!

 

As the word suggests, University should be about gaining universal knowledge. It’s about the interactions you have with different people of similar intellect and varying social backgrounds. Of course, it will give you a “degree†in your chosen field, but the benefits in all the other fields will far outweigh the mere degree. If you are still at University, I’ll advice you to immerse yourself in University life and make sure you take part in (or even initiate) as many activities as possible. If it’s a job your after though, bossy boots above is correct, most vocational professions offer better rates of pay than the majority of university degrees.

 

 

Xu,

The easy way to deal with such situations is if you counter their questions with personal questions of your own. For some reason, these nosey people don’t enjoy it when the shoe is on the other foot. Try it and see.

[Sky]

ngonge you want that girl to get killed or something saaxib?

[N.O.R.F]

Those that want to study for the single reason of finding a job should take Confucius’s advice above and become “

Welders,

builders

and tradesmen

Waar maxaad tidhi? the building trade requires a heap of qualifictions. Is'nt an architect involved in building? What about surveyors who require knowledge of some law, some architecture, some management, some finance and some maths??? :mad:

[underdog]

"Mourn not the dead that in the cool earth lie, but rather mourn the apathetic, throng the coward and the meek who see the world's great anguish and its wrong, and dare not speak."

Author: Ralph Chaplin

 

 

what are you talking about?

I don't really object when people offer me general advice, it's just when they make personal remarks and make assumptions about me and my faith that really bothers me.

I know, if you're wearing as much metal chains as I am, you're bound to get weird looks and comments

Like the woman for example, a while ago, who felt compelled to drop her groceries and run to me from across the street and tell me point blank that she did not like the shoes I was wearing because they were drawing too much attention.

It's just those heavy metal keychains that dangle on the side of my trousers, and spiky metal armbands and suchlike. I don't wear them all the time, only when I feel a bit rebellious

APATHY

ap·a·thy

1. Lack of interest or concern, especially regarding matters of general importance or appeal; indifference.

 

2. Lack of emotion or feeling; impassiveness.

 

 

I don't believe you girls will actually stand around here and critizes your own people for having the guts to speak up against something they think is wrong. Granted they may not be going about it the right way, but niether are you.

 

You should all be glad you belong to a brotherhood/sisterhood that is willing to say something to you when you may be doing something wrong.

 

Apathy and indifference is the biggest reason this 1st world society is becoming morally bankrupt...None of you care what anyone does!!!!

 

The "As long as it doesn't affect me" mentality is choking the humanity out of you.

 

"Furthermore, when a person puts on the clothes usually worn by scholars, he may feel himself as somehow closer to them, because similarity and imitation in outward appearance leads to resemblance in inward characteristics such as personal characteristics and morals, as is witnessed in reality and is confirmed by Islaamic jurisprudence and common sense. In the old times, it was said: ‘Birds of a feather flock together’; this is a realistic proverb which conforms to the manner in which Allaah has formed His creation. The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam spoke the truth when he said: "Whoever imitates a people is one of them." (Ahmad & Abu Dawood)"

 

(http://www.alminbar.com/khutbaheng/184.htm).

 

 

Advice will always be given...whether you take it or not is your issue, but don't fault your elders for having the courage to speak up for what the believe.

[-Serenity-]

Underdog, wlc back. Your invaluable input has been missed. ...j/k.

 

Laakin, no1 is faulting the elders. Its just very irritating when everyone on the street thinks they have some divine permission to tell you how to dress/walk/talk/do.

 

For some1 to come up to me on the streets and "advice" me on my dress sense is a blatant insult to my intelligence. Do you think they have anything to say that I havent heard/thought about? No.

 

Of course I'm not saying the elders should be disrespected in the slightest sense and I'm sure they do it with utmost goodwill....it just doesn't make it right.

 

p.s. I'm not advocating for those boots in VR's avator, or for any1 to dress immodestly here.

[underdog]

GnP,

what would make it right?

Would it be ok to comment on a mini-skirt and tube top?

 

Under what circumstance would you, GnP, go up to a fellow somali woman and say, "sister, I don't think wearing ________ is appropriate?

 

would you do something like that to make your opinion know? or would you just think it and superficially smile at her?

[-Serenity-]

Right is a relative term UD. What is right for one, might not be for another.

 

Lucky for us, we have the Quran and Sunnah to guide us. However, I blv you are asking me if I think its right for strangers to "advice" me on the streets when I'm goin about my daily business? It depends on the situation.

 

I once had a man with qaat on one hand advicing me to wear the hijab. heh.