Xaaji Xunjuf Posted July 15, 2018 This why clan federalism won't work because there are two many clans living jubbaland is a clear example why it won't work it's time abolish clan federalism all togetber. Decentraized form of statehood its the way forward indeed for Somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted July 15, 2018 24 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: This why clan federalism won't work because there are two many clans living jubbaland is a clear example why it won't work it's time abolish clan federalism all togetber. Decentraized form of statehood its the way forward indeed for Somalia Afkaagu iyo dhagahaagu isma maqlaan miyaa?😀😀😀 You oppose federalism because of the clans of Somalia, but in the same breath you say, “a decentralized form of statehood is the way forward”!😀😆😆 Isn’t Fedralism decentralization? Give me some of whatever it is you’re imbibing, mate.,,lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted July 15, 2018 Tribal homelands is bad for the fabric of Somalia. Decentralized form based on normal regions is oke. Fidin ama dedjin mamuul lama diidin. Laakin federal nithaam qabili ku dhisan ayaa burburinaya Somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted July 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: Tribal homelands is bad for the fabric of Somalia. Decentralized form based on normal regions is oke. Fidin ama dedjin mamuul lama diidin. Laakin federal nithaam qabili ku dhisan ayaa burburinaya Somalia You’re only preaching to the choir here. Somali Federal constitution stipulates 3 or more provinces (oo is ogol) can form a Federal member state and they have, with some more than others still dragging their feet. ***Correction: two or more can form a federal member state Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted July 15, 2018 It's actually two or more it's not working practically we have seen gedo is not happy with madoobe. Mudug is divided between galmudug and cabdi cawars northern galkacyo . This federal const draft should be thrown in the bin a new constitution needs to be adopted and voted on by the people of somalia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tillamook Posted July 15, 2018 49 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: It's actually two or more it's not working practically we have seen gedo is not happy with madoobe. Mudug is divided between galmudug and cabdi cawars northern galkacyo . This federal const draft should be thrown in the bin a new constitution needs to be adopted and voted on by the people of somalia That’s retarded thinking on your part: All those local issues you’ve raised will be resolved one way or another, and the Federal system will move forward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ifiye Posted July 15, 2018 Amisom or Unsom will not stay in southern Somalia forever then we will find out who wins the onlf terrorists and their siyadist sidekicks or the majority natives. The pirate kids should worry about defending Garowe desert from the Somaliland army and to the southernside the Galmudug army. As we speak united forces are organizing to remove the onlf terrorists from Kismayo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ifiye Posted July 15, 2018 Ethiopia and their allies created ten clan warlords in Somalia and the same time it looks like they are in the process of completely abolishing federalism. In this video you can see both Iley and his Tigray masters welcoming the Eritrean strongman in Addis behind their new Oromo leader. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted July 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Ifiye said: Amisom or Unsom will not stay in southern Somalia forever then we will find out who wins the onlf terrorists and their siyadist sidekicks or the majority natives. The pirate kids should worry about defending Garowe desert from the Somaliland army and to the southernside the Galmudug army. As we speak united forces are organizing to remove the onlf terrorists from Kismayo. Just in time when Ethiopia has taken off ONLF from terrorist list. lol Kismayo has been through these threats and changing of guard one too many times, you think you can go on another circle on this history. How about you ask kililka for peacekeepers Liyu? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted July 16, 2018 9 hours ago, Ifiye said: Ethiopia and their allies created ten clan warlords in Somalia and the same time it looks like they are in the process of completely abolishing federalism. In this video you can see both Iley and his Tigray masters welcoming the Eritrean strongman in Addis behind their new Oromo leader. Ethiopia cannot last a day without federalism now. The country is addicted to it for ill or good mostly for good. The Oromo need Federalism as much as Somali and Afar. These three would go to war to save federalism against anybody. South there is Sidama that want to kilil status from zone, Oromo would not even have relation would just break apart if their kilil is changed. Tigray has 4 ethnics, but are most stable and will stand with Afar anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted July 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, Old_Observer said: Ethiopia cannot last a day without federalism now. The country is addicted to it for ill or good mostly for good. The Oromo need Federalism as much as Somali and Afar. These three would go to war to save federalism against anybody. South there is Sidama that want to kilil status from zone, Oromo would not even have relation would just break apart if their kilil is changed. Tigray has 4 ethnics, but are most stable and will stand with Afar anyway. those in power no longer want federalism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted July 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said: those in power no longer want federalism. It is always like that PMs don't like Federalism, but were advocates when in kilil. Its the same in developed countries. But the Oromo are different people from east to west north to south, its kilil that gave them power and influence and fairly united them. No Oromo party wants to give this away most of all their QERO/Shebab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gooni Posted July 16, 2018 Ma haboona Mr madoobe inuu hooskiisa tuute u geliyo wakhtigan adag ee lagu jiro Waxaa wanaagsan inuu kalsooni u muujiyo federaalka si loo dhiso ciiddan xoog leh oo difaaca shacabka ku nool goboladaas. Kenyatigu dugsi uma noqon karaa ilaa abid. Waxaa kaloo u wanaagsan inuusan ku daba lumin puntland oo ay ku kala duwan yihiin arimo fara badan danaha u gaarka ah goboladaasna uu si fiican gacanta u geliyo. Haduusan aqoonteeda lahayn caqligeeda wuu leeyahay sababtoo ah waa dagaal ooge faraha kasoo gubtay. Kismaayo jubaland ma'ahan waa magaalo ka mid ah jubaland. Sargaalkii loo diiday kismayo wuxuu xilka kula wareegay garbahaarey oo ka tirsan jubaland waxna kama qaban karo, mana diidi karaan, hadduu doono meel 10km u jirta kismasyo yuu xilka kula wareegi karaa. Maxay macnaa oo soo kordhinaysaa kismayo cid aan i ogalayn ma joogi karto sargaal aanan raali ka ahayna ma imaan karo inta walaalaheen kenyaatigu ila joogaan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites