Khadafi Posted July 2, 2018 14 hours ago, Ducale said: Horta onlf ma soomaali bey matalaan mise beel kaliya? Snm oo reer kaliya ka koobneyd oo dawlad soomali is hayeen ayaa magaca SOMALI ku halgan galay. Kililka shanaad oo reerkastaa dago oo xabashi gaal ah dagaal lagulo jiro jabhadii ugu magaca dheereyd waxay noqotay mid magac beel huwan. If we put Ethiopia to a side for a second and really look and compare onlf iyo dawlada ina iley, waa mirror image except... mid waa dawlad ba la leeyay, takalena waa jabhad soomaali. Labaduba waa reer kaliya oo isku fikir ah as far as kililka and their citizens are concerned. Onlf and iley liyyu boliis waxay qabaan iyaga mooye inta kale waa marti. Thats a valid question that that they need adress, overcome and finally lay it to rest. Even if some of those so called "intellectuals" can understand the the logic behind the name the question that begs to be asked is: With the trauma that somalis gas gone through the 90-ties can the masses accept such a divisive tribal name? Amxaaro Ayaan la dagalaamo, magac qabiilna waa sitaa , soomali na in ey i soo racaan aan rabaa waa bilaa xikmad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khadafi Posted July 2, 2018 13 hours ago, Tallaabo said: The name Og@den is historically associated with that region and was conveniently used by the European powers of the twentieth century when referring to that place. So as long as name recognition and branding of the rebel group is concerned, I see no benefit in changing the name to anything else. But it is indeed true that the current administration in the kilil is heavily influenced by tribalism. If the ONLF wants to be less vulnerable to the type of backstabbing they have so far suffered at the hands of other Somalis, they should be more inclusive and recruit Somalis of all clans to their file and rank. Why accept the Colonial definition of the white-man gaalka when it is not clearly to your advantage? Talaabo, when those colonialists used to a rename an area they did it with a specific agenda. Divide and rule Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted July 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: Mooge cabdi cawar handed over allot of somalis from somali kilil region. It's not a lie so did the pirate from eyl from the Jesus coat clan mr faroole. Back when our cap driver from auzy was the tribal Lord of garowe he even said the big footclan are not even ethnic Somalis. Same way colonel yey said back in the days. Mawlid macaane is not Somali The pirates decide who is a somali and who is not. Balwareerka eega If every prominent person from Somalia was like Yey. He sat with elders and also 3 leaders of ONLF before he reached the conclusion that Puntland should not support separation or independence of kililka. It was just being organized then with full ONLF participation. What they told him was that they will stay if true autonomy is achieved and even if to separate will not be done by arms. Kililka is all destroyed and there is no unity at this time for fighting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted July 3, 2018 20 hours ago, Duufaan said: Than Iley came and. started killing every tribe in border. It was time to pay back. He did not miss one single tribe from Awdal to Bay. The border was closed and both Boosaaso and Berbera lost business. They were competing to sell their soul yo the devil. I think making business out of your brothers killing each other needed to stop. They might have been helping ONLF, but why help ONLF when ONLF is part of the problem in kililka itself before you go Ethiopia. ONLF themselves will tell you that was not conducted properly as a fight to free the Somali from Ethiopia. You can make kililka self sufficient, self governing, self protecting...without creating bloodshed within kililka and pushing some tribes to Ethiopian arms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites