gooni Posted June 22, 2018 Dahir Somali nin low intelligence ah ma maamuli kareen 22'sano kamana dhigi kareen dawladaha afrika ugu awoodda iyo qiimaha badan. Kacaankii barakaysnaa wuxuu ku dhisnaa sinnaan cadaalad iyo horumar markaan ardayda ahayn faataxada ka dib guul wadaw siyaad baan ku xijin jirnay anagoon is aqoon beelaha aan kasoo jeedno. Mushkiladda dalka burburisay wax shaqo ah kuma lahayn siyaad barre naxariistii janno allaha ka waraabiyee. Mushkiladda waxaa bilaabay koox isu abaabushay qaab qabiil oo saraakiil u badan, kuna xirnayd shisheeye, qof kastoo somaaliyana bartay qabiilkuu kasoo jeedo waana tan ilaa maanta xal loo la'yahay. Askarta lama laayo sababtoo ah amarka sarkaalkooday ku shaqeeyaan hadday madaxweynaha dhaawacaan wax dambi ah ma leh. Askartii cirro dagaal geliyay afgambigii waxaa ku jiray beesha uu siyaad barre kasoo jeedo lamana kala aqoon ciidamada iyo haybtooda. Maalintaas ka dibna waxay ogaadeen haybtooda taasoo keentay inay hoos u fiiriyaan sarkaal kastoo loosoo bedelo. Halkaasna waxaa hoos ugu dhacay haybadii ciidanku lahaa. Dadka aad qiimaha ku sheegayso oo la laayay waa maskaxdii ka dambaysay qabyaaladda iyo qabiilaysiga taasoo marlabaad noo horseeday 27 sano ka dib doorashadii inbegaati iyo dastuur ku salaysan qabiilaysi ama 4.5 Taariikhda si saxa u baro walaal si aadan been iyo borobogaando ugu hafan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubano Posted June 22, 2018 Old observer: We should not withdraw. We were defeated as regular army, but not as the Somali people's liberation struggle therefore should continue as irregular fighters of WSLF WSLF insurgency was defeated after 1981. WSLF was not a serious threat to Derg after 1977 debacle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted June 22, 2018 WSLF alone would have brought Derg to his knees, In Yemen meeting with CUBA leader, Mengistu begged Siyad and was ready to return majority of SOMALI GALBEED to SOMALIA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 23, 2018 14 hours ago, maakhiri1 said: WSLF alone would have brought Derg to his knees, In Yemen meeting with CUBA leader, Mengistu begged Siyad and was ready to return majority of SOMALI GALBEED to SOMALIA. That was first and crucial mistake commited by Somalia. Disunity was already there even while the war was going reasonably OK. It became an invasion rther than liberation. Was downhill from there. I think the Government of Somalia wanted to take full credit for the expected victory and they forgot that bravery in battle is only half way to victory. Unless you achieve your objective, which was never achievable the way conducted, liberation, so much bravery is just story for individuals. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted June 23, 2018 42 minutes ago, Old_Observer said: That was first and crucial mistake commited by Somalia. Disunity was already there even while the war was going reasonably OK. It became an invasion rther than liberation. Was downhill from there. I think the Government of Somalia wanted to take full credit for the expected victory and they forgot that bravery in battle is only half way to victory. Unless you achieve your objective, which was never achievable the way conducted, liberation, so much bravery is just story for individuals. Absolutely agree, Siyad Barre sensed and selfishly wanted that victory for himself, so people remember him 1000 years Wrong calculation 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubano Posted June 23, 2018 WSLF alone would have brought Derg to his knees WSLF was not a serious threat after 1977 debacle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted June 23, 2018 1 minute ago, cubano said: WSLF alone would have brought Derg to his knees WSLF was not a serious threat after 1977 debacle. You misunderstood what we discussing here, we talking about Somali Army never crossing the border but helping the insurgency. we are not talking post 1977 war. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubano Posted June 24, 2018 The reality is Barre made a huge mistake killing these officers in 1978. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, cubano said: The reality is Barre made a huge mistake killing these officers in 1978. That is all Academic. When you have failure there has to be somebody or something to blame. That is natural in life as is in military. The WSLF folks that were expelled, arrested, killed...because they wanted the war to be liberation and not Somalia occupation of Ethiopia was first and crucial mistake. It not only weakened the operation and so much loss of life and wealth, but divided the kililka people. That is the hard lesson learned and you see now every kililka politician is afraid anything that remotely seems to divide kililka. There are kililka politicans who may want Iley 6 feet under or in jail, but they do not want the Oromo or anybody else other than Somali to get window or door inside kililka. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubano Posted June 24, 2018 But WSLF continued armed struggle after 1978, they received somali support after 1977. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubano Posted July 16, 2018 This is a somali video: Could anyone tell me what he is talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maakhiri1 Posted July 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, cubano said: This is a somali video: Could anyone tell me what he is talking abou Cubano, could you interview this soldier, if he is still alive, will tell you everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubano Posted July 16, 2018 But an interview with Cuban POW did not change the outcome of 1977 war. Did it change it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites