Buhotle in history 1903

[maakhiri1]

 

[maakhiri1]

we are stuck in time loop

[Holac]

Full circle and back to 1903.

[gooni]

Taariikhda reer buuhoodle taleex iyo dhamaan degmooyinkaas oo dhan waa kaydka qowmiyadoo dhan, waana mid ka mida taariikhaha ugu wanaagsan ee geeska afrika.

Sayid cabdille xassan wuxuu u doortay beel ahaan inay yihiin hal adayg laysku halayn karo, halgankana u dhabar adaygi kara,  daba dhilifna laguma sheegi taariikhdooda cariiqaa.

Waxaase la yaab noqotay sanadahan dambe, markaad aragto hogaamiye snm oo xaqiraya taariikhdaa quruxda badan iyo mooye agtaagan oo lagasoo qoray howdka laas-caanood.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Dervish al saalixiya i think they were extremist Islamist they have killed  the garaad clans main chief garaad jamac grandfather. Gaaaad cali.They were professionals camel thiefs.  From 1899 to 1907 there were some wars with the brits. Fardhidin jidbaale gumbure.etc.  after that the mad mullah became an Italian subject. I think the dervishes is a good history of Somaliland. Even  though the mad mullah was not a Somalilander by ancestry   But belonged to the Abyssinians clans. I think the dervishes were like alshabaab. I think the mad mullah would.have joined alshaabaab if he was alive today. Even the late amiir godane liked the mad mullah.for his extremist  ways of killing Muslims  who oppose you. Dervishes its history  belonged to Somalilanders and Somaliland.it's  bad it's good. 80 percent of all the raids of the dervishrs were in  the republic of Somaliland..

 

[Old_Observer]

We are repeating history, because we are still in the same economic conditions. Camel replaced by SUV for few does not change the way conflicts are solved.

A lot more will be repeated the way most are going.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Yes indeed ducaale    darwiish al saalixiya were politically jihadi salafist by caqeeda they were sufis but militiants. The same with alshabaab the alshababist are also salafi jihadist and believe in combat militant combat with the enemies of Allah alshaabaab views the sfg  as an apostate state. The same way  the dervishes wanted to remove the protectorate brits from Somaliland by force and the Somalis who wanted peace  and  do bussines  with the English were considered gaalo apostate.  Their wealth is unlawful  and can be stolen. That's why the dervishes Robbed entire clans.  The same with shabaab those who want peace are considerd gaalo ama gaalo raac. If you are seen with a govt official in xamar  you are considerd gaal and your  blood is xalaal walugu jannoh tegeya

[Old_Observer]

There is relative peace among faiths in Ethiopia. The way it works is Moslems take care of their Wahabis and Chritians take care of their own Wahabis/fanatics with imported sects.

No force to be used about faith. Other things people kill each other for tribe, for land, for grass for water well just like in Somalia, but then go to court and government is forceful.

Shabab ICU should never have been allowed to use faith for clan politics.

 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Ethiopians are a bit civilized because of the solomonic dynasty the orthodox Christian have led the countries. The amaras involved many oromos into the church babtized them that's why you have allot of  Abyssinian oromos who ahdere  The taweheedo church. Sahle  selassie was very good at incooperating his oromo workers and peasents into the abysinian shewan govt. Religion is not a problem in both Eritrea Ethiopia.  They get along fine and intermarry allot

[Old_Observer]

12 hours ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said:

Ethiopians are a bit civilized because of the solomonic dynasty the orthodox Christian have led the countries. The amaras involved many oromos into the church babtized them that's why you have allot of  Abyssinian oromos who ahdere  The taweheedo church. Sahle  selassie was very good at incooperating his oromo workers and peasents into the abysinian shewan govt. Religion is not a problem in both Eritrea Ethiopia.  They get along fine and intermarry allot

In addition what you observe among the Afar and Tigray is the deep rooted conviction that "we have the original the true (orthodox) in both faiths". Therefore you see that they have least influence by American christianity sects or British managed innovations in Islam. Somalis are also gaining this confidence after few decades of wilderness with all kinds of movements.

 

[maakhiri1]

Religion must be parked aside until we understand how much distortion/damage happened,  and as it is been used badly by all lunatics, 

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

I have met so.Many somalis some who are ikwaani others who are wahabist. The sufis. The salafi jihadi. Somalis  are intollerant  when it comes to religion unless  they grew up in the west.oday  reerahayaga oooh  hawd ka yimi. In Ethiopia always said. War xadiis abuhoeraira anad  maqal oo wadaad ku wacdiyo xaadis maha. Religion today is used as a political tool. The Ethiopians take religion not to serious they do fear islam though Meles and the tigrians even the EPLF govt in asmara because of the war with the Muslim jebha  movement. And in the 1990s  sudan  tried to use Eritrean Islamic movement's to attack Eritrea.  The late Hassan turabi. Marka  urur diimeed wanu maqli jirnay xisbal taxriir ila alqaceeda