N.O.R.F Posted July 27, 2006 Hizb, i was never into Albert Square anyway, programmes i miss include Match of the Day, the Apprentice (i would win that) and Grand Designs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhubad. Posted July 27, 2006 ^by the way the Contender is back on ITV. It is American boxing show where 16 guyz fight each other every week, the winner gets $1,000000. I love it to bit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted July 27, 2006 ^^I have already seen it. Shall i tell you who wins? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socod_badne Posted July 27, 2006 The show is gay. I'd go further and say much of what's on the Tube these days are laden subliminal gay messages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted July 27, 2006 ^^As a result of immorality in western societies which in turn in a direct result of separating the church from the state? Secularism? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socod_badne Posted July 27, 2006 Separation of Church and State is the reason why the Age of Enlightenment and Reason took place in the West and no where else. It's also the reason why world migration patters are from Theological to Secular, not the other way around. May God bless and protect all secular, democratic nations. Verily, for they are the only demonstrable hope for mankind. Amiin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted July 27, 2006 Originally posted by Socod_badne: The show is gay. I'd go further and say much of what's on the Tube these days are laden subliminal gay messages. Really? I hadn't noticed. How long have you been hearing these 'subliminal gay messages' then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socod_badne Posted July 27, 2006 Originally posted by Valenteenah: How long have you been hearing these 'subliminal gay messages' then? Seeing, not hearing. I've noticed increase in the number of spinster aunt dads on TV. Very alarming! And of course the detestable buggers too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking Posted July 27, 2006 Dhubad, I'm a big fan of The Contender too. "The man they call the Latin Snake" was a worthy winner last year. He had a good balance of boxing skills and mental strenth. Originally posted by Socod_badne: Separation of Church and State is the reason why the Age of Enlightenment and Reason took place in the West and no where else. It's also the reason why world migration patters are from Theological to Secular, not the other way around. History says that the preceding Muslim thinkers of Andalucia who translated Greek works into Arabic and developed sciences immensely (while Euorope was willowing in The Dark Ages - controlled by the Church) paved way for the Enlightenment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PlayMaker Posted July 28, 2006 Yaw contender is off the hook, this is the only show i watch besides the sports center..i liked how that cocky hispanic guy lost the match, he forgot to box instead he was too busy looking at his girlfriend in the stands... Hey northener, i thought the show was just new how did you see it?..if that is true you better not say who the winner is... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socod_badne Posted July 28, 2006 Originally posted by Viking: History says that the preceding Muslim thinkers of Andalucia who translated Greek works into Arabic and developed sciences immensely (while Euorope was willowing in The Dark Ages - controlled by the Church) paved way for the Enlightenment. I think the Renaissance is more the likely impetus for the Enlightenment. It was closer in time to the Age Enlightenment and the discourse was among Europeans, in European soil. The Andalucian Spain and House of Wisdom in Bagdad, among others, were the beacon of a short lived Islamic/Muslim ascendency in Sciences and Learning in general. But who brought it to screaching halt? Specially in Andalucian Spain? Other muslims. There is a reason why it was possible for the Age of Enlightenment took root in Europe. And that is due to the separation of Church and State. The reaction of the Church to thinkers like Galileo, Bruno among others shows the reigning paradigm of the day was none other than the Church itself. It fought to tooth and nail. Ultimately losing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking Posted July 28, 2006 Originally posted by Socod_badne: The Andalucian Spain and House of Wisdom in Bagdad, among others, were the beacon of a short lived Islamic/Muslim ascendency in Sciences and Learning in general. But who brought it to screaching halt? Specially in Andalucian Spain? Other muslims. Muslims? I thought it was the blood-thirsty Christians under the orders of Ferdinand and Isabella. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allan Posted July 29, 2006 isabella is hot.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socod_badne Posted July 29, 2006 Originally posted by Viking: Muslims? I thought it was the blood-thirsty Christians under the orders of Ferdinand and Isabella. The Berber muslims, Almoravids first -- who invaded Andalucian Spain -- and others later beat them to the punch (Ferdinand and Isabella). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
