Che -Guevara Posted June 5, 2018 Apparently, this is done with TPLF blessing despite reservation from their leadership. The dusty village will go to Eritrea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 6, 2018 Algiers agreement has 3 components Border delimitation is 2 Whos tarted war and compensation is 1 Payment to commision and lawyers 3 Ethiopia accepts and ready to implement all 3 of the Algiers agreement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cadnaan1 Posted June 6, 2018 Why waited so long to accept this agreement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, cadnaan1 said: Why waited so long to accept this agreement. Accepted it, but wanted to negoitiate some villages where the church is one country cemetary is another country Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 6, 2018 Some progress there the tigray tigrinay cousins are reconcaling after 20 years of no war and no peace. I think the woyannes might feel the heat from the Egyptians regarding the abay dam. And ofcourse the oromos gaining momentum population increase I think that old senior jabahd leader sebhet nega is out of tricks and wants to make peace with his former colleague isiays afawerki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: I think that old senior jabahd leader sebhet nega is out of tricks and wants to make peace with his former colleague isiays afawerki Or he wants to rearrange Eritrea before he dies. His siter is secretary and key holder access to Isayas in Eritrea. He has retired by the way pushed or wanted who knows. Orwellian name he had Director of the peace institute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallaabo Posted June 7, 2018 Why were they fighting over a tiny piece of land in the first place? Is the place they were fighting over significant historically or economically? A compromise could have saved a lot of lives and a lot of treasure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted June 7, 2018 I think Ethiopia wanted an all out war that would facilitate the capture of Assab Port. The ego of two dictators didn't help the situation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 7, 2018 Sebhet nega is the god father of the TPLF isias is his old buddy the tigrians are planning something. The badme war it was more about badme it a was an ego war between 2 leaders. It was a tigray tigrinya conflict going back to when hamasien lords used to .feud with general alula. It's was a pissing contest between the 2 groups no compromise because compromise Is defeat. War xabashis I wey naga daranyihin wey is aasayaan. Xabaalay qottan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Che -Guevara said: I think Ethiopia wanted an all out war that would facilitate the capture of Assab Port. The ego of two dictators didn't help the situation. It was neither for the dusty village or for Assab. It was strategic and both achieved what they wanted. Ethiopians wanted to stop young, super enthusiastic, new country testastrone driven, ambitious for being singapore at expense of everyone, Eritrea and go on with their fight on poverty and backwardness. Eritrean strong man wanted total control of his country citizens and how better to achieve it than monster Ethiopia wants to invade us. By that time remember he has fought with Yemen, Sudan and Djibouti big ones or skirmishes but isolated himself none the less. They both achieved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Xaaji Xunjuf said: Sebhet nega is the god father of the TPLF Unique for An African. TPLF is unique in that all its leaders through the years are all alive except Meles. Even its first chairman before Sebhat is in Europe with a PhD. The worst that can happen is get jailed for few years and then are free. All Eritrean ones most killed, some die in desert container prison, others are still there. The difference between Italian colonial culture and poor but free people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 7, 2018 Yes you are right all the EPLF fighters isias arrested them in 2002 all of them Pete Solomon was the man who liberated masawa from the derg he is in prison. Isias is actually smart isolation works when It comes when you building a fragile multi ethnic state. Remmber Eritrea has no constitution and no parliament. The tplf is more democratic than the Eritreans. Eritrea is a country based on fear. And millions of Eritrean are leaving the country the sawa military camp of isias is very harsh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
galbeedi Posted June 8, 2018 The Tigray military leaders who get rich of the war are removed by Abiy, There were generations of Tigray opinion makers who accuse everything that goes wrong in Ethiopia to the so called " Jahba Shacbiya" of Eritrea. Just like our own OO, they talk daily about "Shacbiya" and Egypt. Yet, the biggest move to realign the horn of Africa and their strategic ports are coming from America. Soon, the Eritrean embargo by the west will be lifted and Eritrea is joining the UAE led coalition. Djibouti has been already discouraged to bring anymore Chinese companies, and the American military and Israel will settle in Eritrean ports. If things go well Ethiopia might repair relations and start using the Assab port. Accepting Eritrean sovereignty on the border was probably one of the conditions to restart rapprochement. The egotistical jealousy between the cousins in the north could be over. Assias Afework has no issue with Oromo led Ethiopia and he needs to open up and make some money. There is a lot of puffing and huffing from the Tigray media and some Amhara people who are disappointed to leave Badame after losing a 100,000 casualty between 1998-2000. We Somalis must learn one or two things from the tough mountainaires of Eritrean army and people. Meles Zenawi had deployed a 150,000 army to overwhelm and take Asmara and overthrow the president. The tough Eritreans had machine gunned them when they tried to storm their lines with tens of thousands of soldiers.. Actually in 2001, I watched a video from the front by the Eritreans who showed me a scene similar to the trenches of the first world war. Since that defeat or stalemate, the Ethiopians never tried again. Also the tiny state of four or five million people had suffered a lot of casualties but kept their independence. The horn is changing and we Somalis are watching for the new scramble for the ports. Last week, the Somali leaders were all aboard the UN provided airplanes and go to Baidoa for conference between different countries of Somalia and the one in Mogadishu, al baby sitted by foreigners..Rather than chase the Hodan or Kaaraan gangs, my soldiers would have marched to Lawyacado and Kismaayo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Observer Posted June 9, 2018 galbeedi, I knew you would come to this topic. Eritrea Ethiopia militarily. You of all people should know that, talk about battles when you lost the main objective is pointless. Talking about Imam Ahmed Gurey bravery, battle wins, use of cannons etc becomes all useless when you realize that led to the death of the Adal which could have become great empire, but the way the war was conducted was wrong. Now neither the Somali, Hareri or Afar claims Adal sultanate/kingdom/empire... Eritrea would never have called President Clinton at 2AM, would never have signed agreement to not bring its army 25 km to border of Ethiopia over the 1000km border. Peace keepers to stay only on Eritrean side....would you same agreement Israel and Egypt. Egyptians have to ask permission from Israel to take military force to Sinai. The two main drivers of all these changes are: 1. America wants China to stop or really slow down (Djibouti Ethiopia) 2. Saudi wants to run Yemen war from the African side than from their country Since Djibouti and all Somalis refused this, only Eritrea is available, but Saudis or Americans cannot work from Eritrea with current situation with Ethiopia. Al Amoudi will not be released any time soon. World Bank and IMF are also taking advantage and forcing Ethiopia to at least partly privatize its state enterprises and deny the Chinese their model being duplicated in Africa and succeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted June 9, 2018 Isiais his self isolation worked he played good politics he defeated the salafist movement of Hassan basri in the 1990s of Sudan . He started bisha mining. He indoctrinated all The Eritreans and build one of the largest military in Africa. Sawa kamp isias is a real soldier. But in 1999 woody almost lost the war seye abraha almost broke the back isias and his generals when they pushed beyond bereentu. I think the Saudi's the khaleejis have a good partner it looks good for isias because sanctions will be lifted. Eritrea doesnt sponsor alshabaab or other groups. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites