Landlocked Ethiopia Plans to Build a Navy

[Aroori]

Nazir Manek [Bloomberg]

Landlocked Ethiopia is planning to build a navy, Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed said

during a briefing of the heads of the country’s National Defense Force.

 

“Following the efforts made to build capacity of our national defense, we built

one of the stronger ground and air forces in Africa,” the ruling party-funded Fana

 Broadcasting Corp. reported Abiy as saying on Friday. “We should build our naval

 force capacity in the future.”

 

Two calls to the mobile phone of Abiy’s national security adviser, Abadula Gemada,

didn’t connect.

 

Ethiopia currently has a civilian Ethiopian Maritime Training Institute on Lake Tana.

It trains more than 500 marine engineers and electro-technical officers each year and

plans to increase this to more than 1,000 officers annually, according to its website.

 

Abiy’s government in May agreed to develop Port Sudan on the Red Sea and agreed

with Djibouti to swap shares in state-owned ports, airlines, and telecommunications.

It also agreed to acquire land at Kenya’s Lamu Port for “logistical facilitation,” according

to a joint communiqué issued after a meeting between Abiy and Kenyan president

Uhuru Kenyatta.

 

Earlier this year, Ethiopia took a stake in a port in Somaliland, a semi-autonomous

part of Somalia that aspires to statehood and borders Djibouti. Somaliland will host

 a naval base for the United Arab Emirates.

i wonder who's coastline this navy will be stationed?!!

Link : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-01/ethiopia-shakes-up-board-at-military-affiliated-corporation

 

[Che -Guevara]

The Somali Coast 

[maakhiri1]

First step before starting annexing

[Che -Guevara]

33 minutes ago, maakhiri1 said:

First step before starting annexing

That's too much energy.

[Dahireeto]

OO is onto something. 

[Old_Observer]

5 hours ago, Aroori said:

i wonder who's coastline this navy will be stationed?!!

You practically do not need a coatline. You only need few ports where you can make calls when needed

2 hours ago, Dahireeto said:

OO is onto something. 

There is noyhing grandious about it. Its kind of special forces and works for many countries. Its kind of professional army you can keep floating and help countries when needed in dangerous places and also attack navies of enemy countries in special places.

4 hours ago, maakhiri1 said:

First step before starting annexing

No that is not in the cards. Yemen was most preferred place, but then shortly yemen fell into situation and now the president who was more than willing to work together is even dead.

4 hours ago, Che -Guevara said:

The Somali Coast 

Che,

I hope you are joking if not Somalia should stop defining national security always in terms of Ethiopia. It should be first what do you want to do with Somalia in terms of development and then if you decide to put agriculture in certain area and Ethiopia is risk then you device strategies to mitigate the risk. Sometimes I see Somalis worrying about Ethiopia, when Ethiopia has no plans or intentions about an issue.

Ethiopia has had this training since 2000. There are thousands of Ethiopians working with chinese, american and other countries naval movements and mainly shipping lines. A lot of shipping lines hire them for security safety of ships.

 

[Old_Observer]

10 hours ago, Ducale said:

Somaliland or djibouti will be the place. They already believe Djibouti belong to them and it seem with everything that is going on in  that country, shameless corruption that is no longer hidden, mass imprisonment of opposition, and the guelleh family  feasting on the country like a hyena on carcass, djibouti might colapse under its own weight or get swollen up by ethiopia if tplf survive.

Ducale,

It sounds like you are from the camp of the other Gelleh who is in some hot water with the first lady of Djibouti. They are both the contraversial Ghelleh and first lady Somalilanders by birth while President Ghelleh is Ethiopian.

President Ghelleh wants to tie Djibouti and Ethiopia inseparably. Even politically he proposed Confederation. If Ethiopia and Eritrea seem to make peace expect Djibouti and Ethiopia to have same political system and enjoined in 24 hours.

[Old_Observer]

Almost all Somalis not from Ethiopia I spoke in these couple of days find the news about Ethiopian navy increduleous. This comes from:

1. Lack of knowledge of principalities, Sulatanates, states from hstory around the world

2. Not knowing what the functions of a country's navy tasks are

3. Not understanding that armed forces around the world are being transformed the way they do things.

When you start giving them examples and functions then they go ah ya makes sense.

Most of them understood the news as Ethiopia starting navy. Your mind can change what you see applies here.

 

PM wants to double training from 500 a year to 1000 a year otherwise Ethiopia has had navy and marine forces since 16 years ago.

[galbeedi]

Only Somali political fools do not know, but Ethiopia already have six ships docked between Mombasa and Djibouti. Most of their weapons procurement is carried by their ships to Djibouti. In 2005 there was an open debate among the Amhara intellectuals about gaining a port for the 60 million landlocked Ethiopia. It is also strange they go from 60 to 70 and now 100 million within 13 years.

Most Ethiopian intellectuals are eager to take over Djibouti. They already have a 100,000 Ethiopian residents who run restaurants ,nightclubs and even guard the homes of the Djibouti elite.

The ideal plan is to occupy just ten years and relocate a million population to Djibouti, or force them to accept a confederation with Ethiopia and take over the country without firing a bullet while the lazy Qat chewing Djiboutin is busy chasing the cheap Ethiopian ladies.

Ethiopian insiders that I talk to told me that the new leadership, Abiy Ahmed, Shiferow Shegatu and others are more Ethiopian than their ethnic pronouns attached to them.

The only people who can challenge them are Somalis who could see the big picture. This week Mr. Abiy announced that Africans could enter Ethiopia without visa. They expect both Kenya and Somalia to follow.

Now , what we got is a federal government of Somalia using all its powers and legitimacy to chase the Hawlwadaag boys.in Mogadishu.They must leave this town for the local people to manage and govern the larger country, or wait for even for the world to build the country for them.

Xageed ku aragtay dawlado hal magaalo rabta in ay nabadeeyaan toban sanadood.

After two full years if this guys can’t reach Afgooye, we must prepare to find a new leadership.

[Che -Guevara]

Ethiopia is not powerful as people think. They just don't have any serious counterweight, a vacuum left behind by Somalia. Their economic growth is underwritten by huge Chinese loans. And despite calming of the waters, ethnic Federalism will continue to trouble Ethiopia and Oromo will continue demand more power, ownership over Addis, introduction of Aafan Oromo as a federal language, etc. Once test or you think test power, you tend to demand more

Obviously, they are better connected to world powers and have a lot of influence over Somali regions but that influence is really fragile. All it will take for Ethiopia to leave Somali affairs alone is to have a government that is SINCERE and enjoys legitimacy through consent by the public.

[Saalax]

They will be a target practice for the pirates and Al shabab if they try to come to Somali coast.

[Aroori]

1 hour ago, galbeedi said:

Only Somali political fools do not know, but Ethiopia already have six ships docked between Mombasa and Djibouti. Most of their weapons procurement is carried by their ships to Djibouti. In 2005 there was an open debate among the Amhara intellectuals about gaining a port for the 60 million landlocked Ethiopia. It is also strange they go from 60 to 70 and now 100 million within 13 years.

Most Ethiopian intellectuals are eager to take over Djibouti. They already have a 100,000 Ethiopian residents who run restaurants ,nightclubs and even guard the homes of the Djibouti elite.

The ideal plan is to occupy just ten years and relocate a million population to Djibouti, or force them to accept a confederation with Ethiopia and take over the country without firing a bullet while the lazy Qat chewing Djiboutin is busy chasing the cheap Ethiopian ladies.

Ethiopian insiders that I talk to told me that the new leadership, Abiy Ahmed, Shiferow Shegatu and others are more Ethiopian than their ethnic pronouns attached to them.

The only people who can challenge them are Somalis who could see the big picture. This week Mr. Abiy announced that Africans could enter Ethiopia without visa. They expect both Kenya and Somalia to follow.

Now , what we got is a federal government of Somalia using all its powers and legitimacy to chase the Hawlwadaag boys.in Mogadishu.They must leave this town for the local people to manage and govern the larger country, or wait for even for the world to build the country for them.

Xageed ku aragtay dawlado hal magaalo rabta in ay nabadeeyaan toban sanadood.

After two full years if this guys can’t reach Afgooye, we must prepare to find a new leadership.

Ethiopia's policy to conquer the Somali territories by the sheer number of their population has been in the making for sometime now, and it is a patient and long term game. the sad thing is that most Somalis dismiss this idea as a conspiracy theory.  

[galbeedi]

We are just talking about is scenarios that could happen. They already control Bay, Kismaay and Hiiraan. Yet, they might seek a contract from the west to patrol the sea lanes..

Saalax,  some of the Somali pirates were organized just like foreign controlled terroriists to attract foreign navies . As we speak the so called Somali pirates do not even have a sea worthy mother ship.

Those who are inside the Mogadishu bubble are happy about their situation. Hundreds of programs and projects are funded through the UN, the world bank and others. Every minister is busy applying these funds and in terms of security we see tribal military’s clashes weekly.

just last week the Mogadishu governor and large number members of parliament went to Ethiopia to celebrate the ethnic federal day or something like that

 

[Old_Observer]

1 hour ago, galbeedi said:

Only Somali political fools do not know, but Ethiopia already have six ships docked between Mombasa and Djibouti. Most of their weapons procurement is carried by their ships to Djibouti. In 2005 there was an open debate among the Amhara intellectuals about gaining a port for the 60 million landlocked Ethiopia. It is also strange they go from 60 to 70 and now 100 million within 13 years.

Most Ethiopian intellectuals are eager to take over Djibouti. They already have a 100,000 Ethiopian residents who run restaurants ,nightclubs and even guard the homes of the Djibouti elite.

The ideal plan is to occupy just ten years and relocate a million population to Djibouti, or force them to accept a confederation with Ethiopia and take over the country without firing a bullet while the lazy Qat chewing Djiboutin is busy chasing the cheap Ethiopian ladies.

Ethiopian insiders that I talk to told me that the new leadership, Abiy Ahmed, Shiferow Shegatu and others are more Ethiopian than their ethnic pronouns attached to them.

The only people who can challenge them are Somalis who could see the big picture. This week Mr. Abiy announced that Africans could enter Ethiopia without visa. They expect both Kenya and Somalia to follow.

Now , what we got is a federal government of Somalia using all its powers and legitimacy to chase the Hawlwadaag boys.in Mogadishu.They must leave this town for the local people to manage and govern the larger country, or wait for even for the world to build the country for them.

Xageed ku aragtay dawlado hal magaalo rabta in ay nabadeeyaan toban sanadood.

After two full years if this guys can’t reach Afgooye, we must prepare to find a new leadership.

Agree with your analysis, but you give too much weight to what some Amhara elite culture. That is what they did in Ertrea and look what they got 100 years of missed opoortunity making ethiopia poor, backward and very weak.

Tigray and Afar and now the Somali are mostly opposed to any geopolitical changes done by force. What comes by force will be opposed by force and as time goes by one of the forces will win, most likely the one taken over by force will win. That is almost all of human history.

If you take over by economy, technological development, culture you have a better chance of lasting longer, no hate and no losses. Djibouti does not need importing people. The people of Djibouti both have no animosity to Ethiopia historically or at present.

From President Ghelleh to rdinary Djiboutians don't see Ethiopia as this monster or "natural enemy". And now that the kililka is becoming an entitty in Ethiopia Djiboutians may even be looking at the next PM of Ethiopia being Somali. Why not think the other way. The Somali in Ethiopia is third largest Ethnic, strategic location, nomadic independent and confident culture, ..that is a lot of assets....political maturity economic development are only two main factors being worked upon.

[Che -Guevara]

Galbeedi,

Invasion by sheer number is possible but we must understand Ethiopia has or is experiencing mass displacement. Amharas, Tigray, Somalis and others have or being cleansed from Oromia. Similar things have happened in other at a smaller scale.

Interestingly enough, in Southern Somalia apart from some areas, locals enjoy control over their clan wise. Similar things might happen in the North. Tukaraq conflict could well be the trigger. Dynamics will change and there is no guarantee it will go Ethiopia's way.