Blessed Posted August 31, 2007 After reading the comments made by Khalaf and Red in the other topic, I remembered this: From The TimesAugust 29, 2007 Why men who chase after younger women are just obeying natural selection Men with an eye for younger ladies, and women who prefer a more mature man, are not just obeying cultural stereotypes: both have evolved to appreciate an age gap when it comes to sex and marriage, scientists have found. Both men and women have more children when the father is a few years older than the mother, according to research suggesting that natural selection has driven each gender’s age preferences in mutually compatible ways. Men are most reproductively successful with a partner who is six years younger than they are, while women have most children if they choose a father who is four years older, a study in Austria has shown. One of Britain’s most successful and famously fertile marriages falls squarely in the middle of this age range. The Queen, 81, is four years and ten months younger than the Duke of Edinburgh, and they have four children – more than double the British average. Couples in which the man is much older, however, do not have an advantage. Women whose partners are ten years older have on average the same number of children as those with spouses five years younger. The results offer the strongest evidence yet that the combination of an older man and a younger women has evolved to become the norm for heterosexual couples across the vast majority of human cultures that have been studied because it carries a reproductive advantage. In England and Wales, 26 per cent of marriages involve a younger man, against 48 per cent where the man is between a day and five years older, and 26 per cent where he is six or more years older. Other societies show similar trends, and while the size of average age gaps often differ, the older-male norm does not. The global average is for men to prefer a partner who is 2.66 years younger than them, and for women to prefer a partner who is 3.42 years older. Similar patterns have been observed in marriage records all over the world. This cultural uniformity has long led scientists to suspect that evolution is involved, and that age differences have historically promoted the birth and survival of more children. The usual explanation given is that men have an in-built preference for partners who are visibly fertile, which is enhanced by youth, while women seek resources and status, which tend to increase with a man’s age. While such ideas make theoretical sense, however, research had not previously established any reproductive advantage in the real world for men who choose younger wives and girlfriends or for women who take older mates. The new study by Martin Fieder and Susanne Huber, of the University of Vienna, has found such evidence for the first time, by examining a database of more than 10,000 Swedish men and women. All the participants had had children, and had kept the same partner from the birth of the first child to the birth of the last one. Details of the research are published in the journal Biology Letters. For men, the average number of children increased as the age of their partners decreased, peaking at an age gap of 5.92 years, before declining again with larger differences. There was a similar finding for women. The average number of children rose as their partners grew older than them, peaking at a gap of 3.97 years before declining again. The differing figures for men and women are possible because the sample does not include both partners from each relationship. When women were older than their partners, the curve was sharper still: the number of children declined steeply with each extra year of age difference. Much of this is probably attributable to the way in which female fertility declines at a much earlier age. A woman ten years older than her partner is likely to be starting a family when her fertility is waning, which will not always apply to a much older man. The results show a clear gain in evolutionary “fitness”, the birth of extra children, when men are a few years older than women. The scientists said: “These findings may account for the phenomenon that whereas men typically prefer and mate with women younger than themselves, women usually desire and mate with men older than them, We conclude that the age preference for the partner increases individual fitness of both men and women, and may thus be an evolutionarily acquired trait.” The study also found that when people have children first with one partner and then with another, the second partner tends to be younger than the first for both men and women. This may reflect a preference for younger partners to compensate for one’s own declining fertility, the scientists suggested. Mind the gap 4-year age difference — Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne — Tiger Woods and Elin Nordegren — Kevin Federline and Britney Spears 5-year age difference — The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh 6-year age difference — Dodi Fayed and Diana, Princess of Wales — Laurence Olivier and Vivien Leigh — Prince Rainier of Monaco and Grace Kelly http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2344049.ece Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted August 31, 2007 ^^ Those are no "age-gaps", here's one great example ... A father at 90 earns Rajasthan farmer popularity By ANI Tuesday August 7, 03:07 PM By Lokendra Singh Panch Imli (Rajasthan), Aug.7 (ANI): By becoming a father at 90, Nanu Ram Jogi of Rajasthan's Panch Imli Villge, about five kilometres from Pratapgarh town, has turned a hero of sorts for people in neighbouring villages and in different parts of the country. (<- under-statement of the year ) As news about Nanu Ram travels to far off regions via media and hearsay, people from all of walks of life are amazed. A farmer, Nanu Ram fathered a son from this fourth wife Sadhu Devi, 50, who delivered the child on Wednesday (August 1). Eager to have a son, Nanu Ram married his daughter-in-law after she was widowed. :confused: Having failed on eight earlier occasions to have a son, Nanu today is delighted by the change in his filial fortunes. Jogi, who claims to have married for the first time at the age of 20, boasts of having 21 children and an extended family of 125. Sporting a white beard, Nanu Ram says he enjoys playing with the infant whenever he gets time. When asked about the secret of his health he said, " I had a special diet that included fresh camel milk, eating meat, fish, eggs and clarified butter and other things." He didn't vasectomise himself, as he felt it would make him weak. The family, however says, they would be happy to have another addition to the brood, provided Ram retains his good health. "My father has four wives and my youngest 'brother' has recently been born. We feed him well and take care of him. My father is a good man and he is still very young. We all are very happy," said 60-year-old Bhim, Jogi's eldest son. Health workers say that they will carry out a paternity test to confirm the news. "It is rare for someone to have a child at 90. If it is true, it is a matter for detailed study. We should conduct a medical test to determine the paternity," :eek: said Maninder Deep, a medical practitioner. Earlier, an 88-year-old farmer had turned a father in Barmer, Rajasthan. (ANI) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibtisam Posted August 31, 2007 Hang on baal, so if I do not want too many kids (in this study anything more than one, since four is double the average) I should go for a younger man! hayee. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paragon Posted August 31, 2007 Here are the best options: 1 child or atmost 2 children. So since Somali women cannot be convinced to have only 1 or 2, the calculation is to go for an older woman, who is only capable of mothering 1 child or atmost 2 children. PS: I hope to go sailing in my middle age- that is after getting done raising one little noisy human. Life begins at sixty, according to the pensioners . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted September 1, 2007 My lil two cents: Get 6 kids in 10 years ....... Give some break of 3 years ,,, Get another 6 just to complete the football team ,,, then enjoy the rest of your life Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roobleh Posted September 5, 2007 I do prefer older ones. If she is less than thirty, then she is not gonna be my teammate. Older ladies offer much less noice and share more of their stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms DD Posted September 5, 2007 Those younger women/older men relationship are mostly very short lived it seems. We all know about candy. Come on eveyone. It is sweet now and again but fattening they say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skipper Posted September 7, 2007 Robbleh how about if she becomes your coach or advisor for that matter? When you saya share more of their stuff, what are we talking about here? Enigheten me ina abti Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites