^ JB what are you on ? SL was not even in the debate he did praise SL and PL for the peace and stability relative to the south. his ignorance at least from my perspective is that he does not even begin to comprehend the complexity of the problems we face. - TFG vs. Opposition - inter-clan conflicts -regional disputes (SL vs PL over sool/sanaag) -Economic state of the country relative to other African countries. -foreign intervention in somali affairs (U.S/Ethiopia) and he is the senior U.N representative to somalia.. many of these things he could have gathered just by reading and that is why he is clueless

^ Agreed the man seems ignorant of the situation and although he claims he has no career and therefore can afford to be frank, he keeps maneuvering around the Ethiopian question even though it was the single most important issue raised by all the people asking questions. two points he continuously harped on seemed very duplicitous to me: 1- Somali 'disunity' is a justification for Ethiopian occupation. 2- He refuses to share his plan/proposal for fear of the criticism it might draw.

^ they were for us ........ a month ago

^ that is the beauty of the article just by reading it. the qabil of the author is not evident .. unlike too many political writings. and he is trying to portray that each side comes to the table with 'what to them is a legitimate grievance' but when viewed objectively is ridiculous..... it is also telling that even though the piece was written more than a decade ago .... the only thing that has changed is the list of grievances has increased.

^ video page click on the flash player link on the right or the media player link

^ that is the first time i have seen one article honestly capture almost every viewpoint of the conflict without insinuating one sides version is the supreme truth. the problem with previous attempts at this kind of writing is the authors bias comes through however subtle .... would have been even better with a proposal to put all this BS behind us.

qof bani aadam ah oo somaali ah oo muslim ah ayaa geeriyootay. stop the cheap snide jokes at her expense. Alla yarxam is enough no need to inject pro-SL or anit-SL into this.

qof bani aadam ah oo somaali ah oo muslim ah ayaa geeriyootay. stop the cheap snide jokes at her expense. Alla yarxam is enough no need to inject pro-SL or anit-SL into this.

Originally posted by peasant: ^ Do people still scan viruses and malware? boy i like apple and the ease of getting around with out ever worrying about viruses and spyware. in this years CanSecWest hacking competition three systems were tested. 1- Macbook 2-Vista 3-Ubuntu Nobody was able to hack into the systems on the first day of the contest when contestants were only allowed to attack the computers over the network, but on Thursday the rules were relaxed so that attackers could direct contest organizers using the computers to do things like visit Web sites or open e-mail messages. -- The first day contests are only allowed to hack into the systems remotely. -- the second day contests are allowed minor user interaction like visiting websites etc. -- the third day rules are relaxed and common third party applications are allowed to be installed on all the systems such as office suites, email clients, etc. and hackers attempt to exploit the systems via the weaknesses of the third party applications. The Macbook was the first to succumb it was exploited in the first 2 minutes of the second day of the competition and the Vista machine fell during the third day at the end ubuntu was the last OS still standing. winter: ubuntu Second:Vista Thrid:Apple Macbook macbook the first to fall

^ :confused: that was last month ..... on this side of the world at least

Originally posted by -Serenity-: Rudy.. the laptop wont start... thats the problem. I think its a mechanical fault. I use a IBM T60 for work ....... when it is starting up before it reaches the windows boot up ..... press the blue 'Access IBM' to get into the CMOS and restore the defaults..... if it is not even getting to that stage it must be giving you some 'beeps' each pattern of beeps has a different meaning and will indicate which subsystem is at fault. personally if I have a problem with my laptop I am not allowed to fix it even if i know how .... it is the job of the Tech support dept. .... dumb corporate rules and all but i would recommend not even trying to fix until the corporate Tech dept. has a look at it especially since it might contain sensitive client info if you are interested in Covering Your ****

^ A really great piece

Damn these xabash !@#$%^ they will get whats coming to the soon enough inshalaah.

At least 10 people have died and many have been hurt as Ethiopian forces backing the Somali government shelled Mogadishu's main market, witnesses say. The attack was launched after mortar rounds landed on the Somali president's official residence while he was holding talks with Ethiopia's foreign minister. No-one was injured in that attack, a presidential aide told Reuters. Ethiopian troops intervened in Somalia in December 2006 to help government forces oust an Islamist militia. Since then Mogadishu, the capital, has been the scene of battles with government and Ethiopian troops taking on insurgents. Earlier this week, aid groups said that 20,000 people were being forced to flee fighting in the city each month. Bakara market, which the government says it is a stronghold for militants, has been the site of frequent violence.

Allah yarxam the man has brought laughter and joy to many

:mad: Naclatulaa calayk dheh ! Their most shameful, cowardly act of the dabo dhilifs was to cheer the Ethiopians massacring their brothers but now they have sunk to even lower depths by partaking in the murdering,robing of innocent civilians 'we have not been paid in eight months ' the mercenaries are showing their true color. the TFG filth keep heaping cowardly and shameful acts upon even more cowardly shameful acts .. .. first they invited this filth into our country and stood by and watched while our enemies killed,raped and wreaked havoc on innocent somalis ... now they are imitating there masters. when confronted with this the dabo dhilif will make excuses like 'they deserved it' never will you hear them attempt to critize or condemn what is ha penning here........ lets give the devil his due........ the xabash have pistol whipped and left the dabo dhilif lacking all sense of 'raganimo' at least they are good at that......... a Pimp and his badly beaten cowering prostitute that keeps coming back for more ... is the closest thing that can describe their relationship. EDIT: I only saw the above post after i posted my comment.. this was not a prediction but what i have come to expect. thank you for making my point for me.

Somali unity can be achieved by changing the very basic way that has come to be the standard and accepted method of power sharing. I am referring to the injustice of the 4.5 formula what gives anyone the right to call other somalis .5 they have just as much to lose and gain as the rest of us from somali unity. do they have figures to back up that the 0.5's are indeed less in number because I am not aware of a census being held or is it just because the rest of Somali people feel superior to them.If we continue to power sharing based on clan (4.5) and assign a political position to a specific clan what hope is there for us ever to move beyond it. Representation should be according to residence. This approach is very similar to clan based representation and in fact for smaller more rural areas it is exactly the same. But it is one step ahead in the right direction for larger cities such as Mugadhisho, Hargeisa, Bosaaso, and Kismayo where all inhabitants vote for their representative with an equal voice for all.This is a step in the right direction because in large cities there is not a single Qabil that is so dominant (numbers not weapoons)that the voice of the others does not matter. Hopefully with time people will start to vote for politicians who represent their interests i.e the interests of that city,state not clan because now you have more in common with and share the same fate politically as your neighbor as opposed to a cousin living on the other side of the country. politicians will begin to appeal to the interest of the common man because no longer can he rest on his laurels assured of a seat by virtue of the clan he was born into. but will have to come up with real proposals and show the people that he represents them not just his cousins. The current way things are setup politicians have absolutely no incentive to do their jobs as we all know it is highly unlikely they will be disowned or even rebuked no matter how how greedy and selfish. changing the way we think about Qabil is a prerequisite for unity and unless every single person cringes and feels disgusted at hearing another group being labeled as a mere 0.5. The Qabyalad ways of thinking still prevails and unless that is overcome there is no hope for unity.

^ that one was too good to let go..... but point taken nonetheless. will add my .02 later

Originally posted by Koora-Tuunshe: We will fight and die for our country. We love our motherland. The topic is about Somalia not Ethiopia you got mixed up .......... understandable

MOGADISHU (Reuters) - Somalia's Islamist insurgents vowed on Thursday to launch more hit-and-run attacks against the government, saying their tactics were designed to reduce civilian casualties. We are capable of holding the areas we capture," said Mohamud Ibrahim Suley of the Somalia Islamic Courts Council, which the Western-backed government kicked out of the capital following a short war at the end of 2006. "But we always want fewer losses ... we want no harm to come to the civilian population," he told Reuters by telephone from undisclosed location. "Until the people become fully independent ... the fighting will never stop." The terrorists looted all they could and freed all the prisoners from the jails. They even let local people ransack government offices, he told Reuters from Jowhar, which was once controlled by Mogadishu's mayor, former warlord Mohamed Dheere. they let local ppl ransack governmetns offices ....just a small measure of the contempt the average nomad holds for the xabash filth and their dabo dhilif .......... looooooool maybe next time al-shabaab should let the locals loose on A/Y and M. dheere

^ lack raginimo indeed ....... although i like to use more colorful adjectives to describe these pitiful Qabil-blinded , ethiopian lackeys.

The Pentagon entrusted a 22-year-old previously arrested for domestic violence and having a forged driving licence to be the main supplier of ammunition to Afghan forces at the height of the battle against the Taliban, it was reported yesterday. AEY, essentially a one-man operation based in an unmarked office in Miami Beach, Florida, was awarded a contract worth $300m (£150m) to supply the Afghan army and police in January last year. But as the New York Times reported in a lengthy investigation, AEY's president, Efraim Diversoli, 22, supplied stock that was 40 years old and rotting packing material. "Much of the ammunition comes from the ageing stockpiles of the old communist bloc, including stockpiles that the state department and Nato have determined to be unreliable and obsolete, and have spent millions of dollars to have destroyed," the paper said. looooooooooooooooooool, crazy kid indha adaygaas hadaan lahaan lahaa oh what could have been source

^ hear hear

Mabruuk bro. Ilaahay haka dhigo mid diinteeda iyo dalkeeda anfacda.

one of the very few things i agree with jimcaale on