^ as someone who as lived in both cities .. in a way they are very similar .. the toll of war is there for people who want to see. it is amazing once you travel away from the beaches and the high-rise buildings go to the south-side of beirut it looks almost like shangaani it is bullet-ridden, dirty and looks like the war is still going on.

I remember this fellow with the most unusual name .. I thought it was a joke but all 4 of his names are like that no naanays included. Buutey (firstname), Bidaaye (father), dhaga-deele(grand),tuur-xume (great-grand) let's see anyone beat ^ for unique

^ it means nin weliba oo waalan waabiyaa hela !

Originally posted by Al Burcaawi: ^^I don't know if anyone else understood but I don't have a Scooby mate! let me break it down sxb Dul-qurnayn assaulted us with a poste chock-full psychology terminology & Psycho-analysis ... but to give credit where it's due he did attempt (albeit unsuccessfully ) tie it into the on-going discussion, something like a dish of psych-101 with a small side order of SOL-related stuff. I threw down the gauntlet so to speak, just to show that he is not the only one who can come up with random stuff .. completely un-related to the thread while at the same time informing us that he has book smarts. Geel_Jire,saaxiib,I am not here to argue with you because, well, I have an incredibly unfair advantage over you. I can perhaps teach you a thing or two on this forum, ^ this intelligence and smarts of yours that you keep referring to has not been on display so far .. but i will give 1 last chance to dazzle me yet

Originally posted by Cara: He wants to play baseball, and is asking if you got a bat and balls or the mitt. LOL ... you remind me of a co-worker who has baseball analogies for everything @ dabshid & Castro the last 2 newbies waa isku dhib-dhibteen ... i call dibs on the next one Welcome Cinnamon !

Originally posted by Malika: ^Are you sure that is a lullaby? Sidii mid an aabbe korinnin [Like one abandoned by his father] Ayeeyoyin isu dhiibin[one his ayeeyos didnt bother with] Abaartii subag la siinin[ one whom wasnt bothered to be fattened during draught] Ameer dhalay loo lisaynin[one no one bother milking a new goat mother's milk for him] :cool: [am out] ^ Malika waa gambatay walee .. khatar ! only 1 minor I disagree with Ayeeyoyin isu dhiibin: could be either 1- [one whos ayeeyos didnt pass him around(to each other)] 2- [one who did not surrender himself to his ayeeyos] af-soomaliga waa cajiib change one letter and everything changes ! although semantically your translation fits into the rest of the lullaby if the author didnt make a typo and meant to write dhibin

^ adeer .. stop making excuses for him. it is telling that he and some others attemtped to minimilize the destruction visited upon the filthy tigre by our brave young lads ... and here cheers for the death of a hero ... and you say **** yaan la odhan ... that is a compliment where he is concerned.

The TOL have many uses, but you only really understand maalintaad u bahato. I contribute to whatever ideas they bring my way and they did come up with some really good ones like schools,dugsi quraan back home in the tuulo. so I guess the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. I have a question for the ladies ... (assuming Li-ka shing is a sister if not my apologies). In Somali culture, it is unheard of to contact women directly for anything related to TOL financing of gar,heshiis, xaal or even mag.From my understanding they bear absolutely no responsibility for these things aside from providing a venue and/or food for the fadhi. The reason being, at least from an Islamic perspective is that one of the main reasons men inherent twice as much as women is so that they can take care of those kinds of expenses i.e. incurred in the name of the family, and since the men were the primary breadwinners of the home ... it was the wealth of another TOL. I am not implying anything here, it is a sincere question.Living in the diaspora has changed many traditional roles, for example the role of the provider used to be soley, that of the men but now women and men are equal in that regard here in the west .Since I'm not involved in organizing or collecting TOL related finances (I pay whatever they ask me and i dont ask many questions). Ladies is your experience similar to that of Li Ka-shing in terms of finances ?

Paragon sxb .. ducaa kugu dhacday ... i havent smiled like this in a while ... thnx for the good news .. Independence day + filth extermination rolled into one ... wallee waan ciiday !

wlc abaayo

Dul-Qarnayn : let me explain why mr. Oodweyne and some of us .. are poking a lil bit of fun @ your post .. cuz it seems like it is going over your head. for example my field of specialization is in Computer & Electrical Engineering ... now back when i was a "smelly student" (to borrow a phrase fom ngoge) i had this very tough course called Advanced Control systems it is a very abstract course which can be applied anywhere in any situation ... when i really got into it .. I could see Control systems everywhere it's like I had a revelation of sorts ... from making coffee to eating even driving, i would notice that i am actually part of a Closed-loop, negative-feedback control system The output of the system y(t) is fed back through a sensor measurement F to the reference value r(t). The controller C then takes the error e (difference) between the reference and the output to change the inputs u to the system under control P. y(t)= keep the vehicle moving in a straight line. F= position relative to the centre of the lane. E= displacement from centre of the lane. C i.e the control system takes the difference of the output and the error (E) and inputs the negative feedback into the loop by changing the input i.e compensating by steering in the other direction. Very interesting stuff ^ eh .. i can make it even more exciting by modeling SOL politics ... but i would bore everybody to death ... i hope you understand what i'm driving @ here.

Originally posted by Cabdiyo Cabdi: ^Good to hear. sheekadaa ma aqaan ee iisheeg. ^ adiguna sidee tahay ? ...I know it is an actual street corner in north muqdisho but anigaba sheekda iiga maqantahay ...how it got is blessed name im out have a nice day trollers !

^ waa la raayaa ayeeyo ... jiiro garoob waa centre-kayga .. ma taqaana sheekada ka danbaysa magacaas ?

^ if that's the case may i suggest the days of the week the old timers are really into that stuff. axado isniino

LOL ayeeyo Buuxo ... waxaad isku soo rartay magac kale oo culus .... what next Canbaro or mako ?

Troll section is live & kikin today .... happy independence day dhamaan. now i have volunteered to supervise somali kids for a an all day july 1st event .... i know im going to come back with a big headache tonight damn I hate kids !

^ let me guess you're a freshman psychology student ... how did i guess, you ask ? Reality = Perception + Misperception + No Perception well, ^ this is a hint that mathematics is not your strong suit

^ I could only stomach the first 2 minutes ... but this is not unexptected with a population of >> 10 M ... you have to account for dulli,adoon-xabashi,dab0dh1l1f. I'm always hearing jokes about people in ohio with regards to americans ... I see it is affecting somaliz as well *must be something in the water*

LOL @ playmaker ... the standards of beauty have changed sxb ... berigii hore (and still) suxul baruur oo dhinac weliba u kuusan ayaa la raadin jiray... a description which hibo fit into once upon a time ... now the skinnies are in style ..... markaa xagaas bay bahashu ka socotaa

^ arent you being a lil melodramtic yourself NG first of all ibti did not mention the name of an individual or post the email address of an individual... so your death threat theory is out of the window "info@africacentre.ie" is probably a distribution list or a group/shared mailbox @ best. there is nothing wrong with making your displeasure known to them ... there is a possibility that someone might take notice and @ best give the good sh. a deserved apology or ignore it @ worst either way no skin off your nose !

ok her is one. I have two friends one from waaberi here on referred to as W and one from hawd here on referred to as H. My friend W is a very mischievous guy and enjoys teasing the hell out of H. One day while we were talking about somali politics W & H got into a heated debate ... H finally gave up and pronounced "sxb, maroor bad tahay" . W who is usually a very laid back guy and almost impossible to piss off.... became really angry .. sheekada markay xumaatay aniga & H aan la yaabanahay ninkaan waxa kululeeyay. markii mudo la joogo ayuu W aniga ii waydiiyay "ninyahow maroor maxaad u taqaan ?" .... waxaan idhi dee qof muran badan oo mar waliba dooda ! ... and he started laughing sida qof waalan oo kale. adiga markii danbe waxuu noo sheegay 'maroor' xamar in looga yaqaan 'malawadka' *uptill now i havent confirmed what W has told me ... sax ma tahay ayeeyo fasirkaas ? *

^ waa kugu raacsanahay sxb especially the western thing .. here everything is about the individual & taking care of No. 1 ... lakin dhaqanka geeljiraha the reason why dumaal was so sucessful was the mother/father were doing a selfless act & putting the children's interest before their own even if the replacement (man or woman) was a toad.

Originally posted by Kool_Kat: ^Walee ineysan lafahaaga meelahaan ku oolin yaa Geel_Jire!!! Iima been guurtid with your tarjubaan baan u ahay saxiibaday? Shiirkaaga waaguu soo uraayay, xamar suuq maleheen aan u maleynaa? LOL j/k ayeeyo sidaas duq uma ihi weli dhowr tin baa igu taal... tarjuban wax jira weeye .. but that expression hadaa iigu horaysa maqalkeeda .... i have some funny stories on misscommunication especially when the same word has completely different meanings in the south & north & im not talking about the stereotypical xalwo la dhuuqaa .. lakin kuwa ka daran oo kursiga kaa soo ridaya oo kilyaya ku xanuujinaya

^ ama aniga si qalad ah u fahmay ama MMA baxay. shiirkaa ma kuu urayn macnaha .. doobnimo ayaad ka wadaa (15-19) maadan gaadhin .... rag sxbday ah ayaan tarjuban u kala ahay one from burco @ hawd and the other from waaberi ... i have picked up alot of words in the middle .. PS: heesta xasan adan samatar ee ku jirta "Guntaan ka waraabiyaa" .. heesta magaceeda maxay ahayd ? and it shouldn't be among the top in this list ?

It has its social benefits and the orphans gain the most especially in Scenario II .. who better to raise the kids as his own then an uncle.