LOL @ "Many purebred Somalis had significant dental problems due to congenital problems magnified by inbreeding. As a result, many Somalis had to have all their adult teeth removed."

Well well well! It seems Mr. Barack Hussein Obama (Hussein? Osama? I know those names!) has something to hide! I can imagine the democrats now... it's down to Obama and Clinton; all the liberals are like "wow, we're so progressive, a woman and a black guy nominated for president" and the rest of the party is like "damn, those ******* republicans are gonna beat us again". Here is the artical: Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a Madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage? This is the question Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s camp is asking about Sen. Barack Obama. An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia. "He was a Muslim, but he concealed it," the source said. "His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign." When contacted by Insight, Mr. Obama’s press secretary said he would consult with “his boss” and call back. He did not. Sources said the background check, conducted by researchers connected to Senator Clinton, disclosed details of Mr. Obama's Muslim past. The sources said the Clinton camp concluded the Illinois Democrat concealed his prior Muslim faith and education. "The background investigation will provide major ammunition to his opponents," the source said. "The idea is to show Obama as deceptive." In two best-selling autobiographies—"The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" and "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance"—Mr. Obama, born in Honolulu where his parents met, mentions but does not expand on his Muslim background, alluding only to his attendance at a "predominantly Muslim school." The sources said the young Obama was given the name Hussein by his Muslim father, which the Illinois Democrat rarely uses in public. His father was black and came from Kenya. Mr. Obama’s mother, the daughter of a farmer, came from Wichita, Kansas. Mr. Obama's parents divorced when he was two years old. His father returned to Kenya. Later, Mr. Obama's mother married an Indonesian student and the family moved to Jakarta. Mr. Obama returned to Hawaii when he was 10 to live with his maternal grandparents. The sources said the background check concerned Mr. Obama's years in Jakarta. In Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a Madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim. Although Indonesia is regarded as a moderate Muslim state, the U.S. intelligence community has determined that today most of these schools are financed by the Saudi Arabian government and they teach a Wahhabi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims. Although the background check has not confirmed that the specific Madrassa Mr. Obama attended was espousing Wahhabism, the sources said his Democratic opponents believe this to be the case—and are seeking to prove it. The sources said the opponents are searching for evidence that Mr. Obama is still a Muslim or has ties to Islam. Mr. Obama attends services at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago’s South Side. However, he is not known to be a regular parishioner. "Obama's education began a life-long relationship with Islam as a faith and Muslims as a community," the source said. "This has been a relationship that contains numerous question marks." The sources said Mr. Obama spent at least four years in a Muslim school in Indonesia. They said when Mr. Obama was 10, his mother and her second husband separated. She and her son returned to Hawaii. "Then the official biography begins," the source said. "Obama never returned to Kenya to see relatives or family until it became politically expedient." In both of his autobiographies, Mr. Obama characterizes himself as a Christian—although he describes his upbringing as mostly secular. In “The Audacity of Hope,” Mr. Obama says, "I was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother as secular, but says she had copies of the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita in their home. Mr. Obama says his father was "raised a Muslim, but by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist...." Mr. Obama also describes his father as largely absent from his life. He says his Indonesian stepfather was "skeptical" about religion and "saw religion as not particularly useful in the practical business of making one's way in the world ...." In the book, Mr. Obama briefly addresses his education in Indonesia. "During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school; in both cases, my mother was less concerned with me learning the catechism or puzzling out the meaning of the muezzin's call to evening prayer than she was with whether I was properly learning my multiplication tables." Source: Insight, Jan 22, 2007

Don't worry, that wasn't a threat on your life. I was just recalling the wise (or strange?) words of Somali's own Sean John Combs, aka Diddy(Circa.2005), aka Puff Daddy (Circa.1995) aka P. Diddy (Circa.1995) aka Puffy. Unless your a warlord you probably didn't get a chance to cast your vote for or against the government of Somalia (also known as the TFG). Here is your chance! Go to the link and cast your vote for or against the TFG. http://www.somaliaonline.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=009014 :eek: :eek: First 4 and a half nomads to vote win a camel! :eek: :eek:

Wow... Seems like most people here don't support them!

Do you support the TFG, please give your answer Yes or No.

If we have a sovereign state in Somalia, import and export for Ethiopia and the entire interior of Africa can be a great economic good for Somalia. But will Ethiopia let us get a sovereign state?

"peacekeeping" in somalia seems to be a good business.

What are the TFG’s goals? What are the TFG’s goals? Please provide References for any claim you make. I believe the goals of the TFG are to create in Somalia a client state for Ethiopia and lay the ground work for the subsequent annexation of Somalia by Ethiopia. To support my believe I refer the honorable reader to the statements made by Mr. Hussein Mohamed Farrah Aidid, Deputy Prime Minister, Interior Minister and Acting Minister for Reconciliation for the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia. It was reported on Tuesday January 02, 2007 that Mr. Aidid said the following (translated into English) “ 60% of our 2 million refugees are in Ethiopia, they have Ethiopian passports, they live in Ethiopia, they use it (passport) when traveling abroad and coming back, the pastoralists go to Ethiopia and come back, we have a two thousand kilometer border with them, we want to abolish that border, because we are brothers and have no problem between us, we want to have one passport, one army, security and one economy” The statements of the Deputy Prime Minister coupled with 1. the reality of long term presence of Ethiopian troops in regions of Somalia such as Gedo 2. the invitation of Ethopian troops into Somalia by the TFG 3. the TFG’s avocation for the continued presence of Ethiopian troops inside Somalia (Idd Beddel Mohamed, Charge d’affairs of the TFG Mission to the UN, on VOA African Journal January 4, 2007) 4. the undermining of Somali sovereignty by the TFG’s encouragment of military action and not protesting the military actions of the United States of America in Somalia without the consent of the TFG (Somalia's president supports US strike) all lead me to the conclusion that TFG is laying the ground work for the Ethiopian annexation of Somalia. What are your thoughts on what the goals of the TFG are? http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1573951,00.html http://somalinet.com/news/world/Somalia/6375 http://www.dailyindia.com/show/101849.php/Somalias-president-supports-US-strike Somalia – Ethiopia Conflict, Vincent Makori's Africa Journal, January 4, 2007

The Noah K everyday is amazing!

Are there any major Somali cities that are not under Ethiopian control?

Zeila coast looks beautiful, I would love to see it. I also want to see the Hawd and waxaan jeclaanlaha mar in aan tago Qalaafe. Inshallah mar bay xor noqondoontaa... Wallahi I dream of traveling throughout our beautiful Somali.

That must be why am make so much money! ileen all that time I spent in the gym instead of the library paid off!

What cities are under the Ethiopian troops? What do these cities have in common?

General, you are lucky to have such a grasp. I on the other hand feel like a blind man in a dark room when it comes to grasping current politics in Somalia. If you don’t mind I would like to tap into your ‘grasp’ and maybe you can take the time to share your insight into this matter. 1. From the 1st EU conclusion we read “The EU believes that a window of opportunity exists for a sustainable solution to Somalia's difficulties. It considers that the current momentum should be seized by all parties in order to reach a durable political settlement” Question: a. To whom does “all parties” refer? 2. In conclusion 2 the EU says they are “concerned by the current situation of the reconciliation process” and “urges the resumption of the full functioning of political institutions and civil society, as soon as possible” Questions: a. What is the “reconciliation process”? b. Why is there concern about the current situation of the reconciliation process? c. Why would the resumption of the full functioning of political institutions and civil society help alleviate their concern? 3. In the 5rd conclusion “the EU calls on the TFIs to solve their internal differences and to reach out to all Somalis of good will, in a spirit of national reconciliation” Questions: a. What are the TFIs and what are their “internal differences”? b. Why aren’t the TFIs reaching out to all Somalis of good will? 4. In the 6th conclusion the EU states that “An inclusive broad based political process will offer the basis for further international support”. Question: a. Isn’t the TFG an “inclusive broad based political process”? If not, what has changed? If the TFG is an “inclusive broad based political process”, why is the EU calling for another one? I look forward to your insight.

OOOooh... your talking about dating! I was going to provide expert advice but you changed the subject on me.

Originally posted by General Duke: Digital, their recomendations will be taken into consederation. General, you state that with such authority. What makes you so confident?

I hate having check for new posts. It sure would be nice if the computer could check for me.

Those are awsome. Here is one I like: StumbleUpon StumbleUpon lets you "channelsurf" the best-reviewed sites on the web. It is a collaborative surfing tool for browsing, reviewing and sharing great sites with like-minded people. This helps you find interesting webpages you wouldn't think to search for.

Wallahi when people say "money talks and bullsh*t walks", they are not joking. Many of these recommendations are what many Somali people have been calling for. But it seems they don't have $15 million to “smooth the way” for these recommendations to be adopted.

This is a question for the SOL members here that support the TFG. Why do you support the TFG? Are there any conditions under which you would no longer support the TFG? What are those conditions?

We are having one here in DC today. I hope it goes as well... The weather is bad today and Somali people (myself included) don't always come out like they should.

For a political system to work everyone can not get everything they want every time. It can’t be a zero sum game where you win or loss. I remember when I was a small child my big brother and his friends would play jar kabood in the street outside our home. I would always want to be the first to play and the only winner and if I was not allowed to play first or if I didn’t win then waan banaday. It seems like Somali politics is played the same way I use to play jar when I was 7.

“The 15 million euros the EU executive has set aside to help finance an AU peace force, replacing Ethiopian troops in Somalia, will be handed over only if there is a real reconciliation process, Michel insisted on the margins of a meeting of EU foreign ministers.” My God! What the hell is $15 million! Is the TFG so pathetic that they are begging and meeting conditions for $15 million? "It is of the utmost importance to ensure that all key stakeholders -- including clan elders, Islamic leaders, representatives of the business community, civil society and women -- are engaged in an inclusive political and institutional process" I hope that the TFG doesn’t need foreigners to tell them this. It’s not like they have any choice. If the TFG does not engage “all key stakeholders -- including clan elders, Islamic leaders, representatives of the business community, civil society and women”, then they will just fail. The whole purpose of the TFG is for to reconcile our nation and build government institutions. The TFG can not achieve this purpose without engagement of the key stakeholders.

This is a question to the members here that do not support the TFG. Are there policy or personal changes that if the TFG adopted would induce you into supporting the TFG? If so, what are they?

I had a number of questions about the 4.5 idea. What is the 4.5 idea? Who came up with the formula and what is its history?