Khalaf, I think I have answered this questions before, but I will lay out my thinking as these things need and can be updated as time goes by. Above I would say, I'm pragmatic and certainly a realist in most cases. I would support for example the Asmara group over the TFG. Simply because, I'm dead against Ethiopia in Somalia. Even though, I would differ with the ICU in their vision, these things can shift, and I'm prepared to go with it in the bigger aims of things. Why would you also ask, I advocate closer links with Black Africa. Because in these time, being associated with the Arabs is not the best idea, when the only superpower has set his eye on them. It is doubly dangerous for Somalis. I'm not advocating Somalis to leave their religion but my vision of what I want to see in Somalia, strong rubs against with the tenor of islamism that Somalis now advocate. I see it as great challenge. But I also argue that a lot of is simply because of the woeful level of education and the quality of leaders. It is all factors. To give you a example, the strong conservative undertones of Somalis have now. I have recognized as being recent Gulf Arab influences. Education reduced to just Quran study. How helpful is that. How would that work alongside my cherished globalized model, with it's sushi bars, lifestyle centers, loft apartments and the consumer society. It would be a obstacle. But I also recognize it doesn't have to hinder it. But since I'm also pragmatic, I'm prepared to come half away with you. I would accept your mosque next to my sushi bar. As in Dubai. Now how can we achieve that. Let me tell you how. It would take a sustained growth rate of at least 7% for the next 20 years at the very least. With all the basics done right. What must be done to get that level. al For me the greater goal triumphs, the over riding aim is the nation state. The end game. Kemal Attaturk, believed in that too. We must not be swayed by simple emotional arguements, as I'm trying to think in a different way, as new ways of thinking and strategy is something we should carefully develop to steer this new path. A lot of the old ideals have failed. Somethings have remained constant and countries have found that way, rule of the law, secularism, etc. Can Somalia, do so too?

Khalaf, I think I have answered this questions before, but I will lay out my thinking as these things need and can be updated as time goes by. Above I would say, I'm pragmatic and certainly a realist in most cases. I would support for example the Asmara group over the TFG. Simply because, I'm dead against Ethiopia in Somalia. Even though, I would differ with the ICU in their vision, these things can shift, and I'm prepared to go with it in the bigger aims of things. Why would you also ask, I advocate closer links with Black Africa. Because in these time, being associated with the Arabs is not the best idea, when the only superpower has set his eye on them. It is doubly dangerous for Somalis. I'm not advocating Somalis to leave their religion but my vision of what I want to see in Somalia, strong rubs against with the tenor of islamism that Somalis now advocate. I see it as great challenge. But I also argue that a lot of is simply because of the woeful level of education and the quality of leaders. It is all factors. To give you a example, the strong conservative undertones of Somalis have now. I have recognized as being recent Gulf Arab influences. Education reduced to just Quran study. How helpful is that. How would that work alongside my cherished globalized model, with it's sushi bars, lifestyle centers, loft apartments and the consumer society. It would be a obstacle. But I also recognize it doesn't have to hinder it. But since I'm also pragmatic, I'm prepared to come half away with you. I would accept your mosque next to my sushi bar. As in Dubai. Now how can we achieve that. Let me tell you how. It would take a sustained growth rate of at least 7% for the next 20 years at the very least. With all the basics done right. What must be done to get that level. al For me the greater goal triumphs, the over riding aim is the nation state. The end game. Kemal Attaturk, believed in that too. We must not be swayed by simple emotional arguements, as I'm trying to think in a different way, as new ways of thinking and strategy is something we should carefully develop to steer this new path. A lot of the old ideals have failed. Somethings have remained constant and countries have found that way, rule of the law, secularism, etc. Can Somalia, do so too?

Khalaf, I think i have answered this questions before, but I will lay out my thinking as these things need and can be updated as time goes by. Above I would say, i'm pragmatic and certainly a realist. I would support for example the Asmara group over the TFG. Simply because, I'm dead against Ethiopia in Somalia. Even though, I would differ with the ICU in their vision, these things can shift, and I'm pre

Khalaf, I think i have answered this questions before, but I will lay out my thinking as these things need and can be updated as time goes by. Above I would say, i'm pragmatic and certainly a realist. I would support for example the Asmara group over the TFG. Simply because, I'm dead against Ethiopia in Somalia. Even though, I would differ with the ICU in their vision, these things can shift, and I'm pre

ThePoint. no one is talking about a full on invasion. If you have strong intelligence, you can send missles and drones now to just take care of it. You can also put in special troops. What he is saying is that if he has that information, he will will take that action without telling the Pakistanis or asking for their permission. Technically it is a invasion, but what can they do? You get the idea.

Khalaf, I have gone beyond the realm of the religious 'brotherhood' that that has done nothing but damage to the Somali people mind. I'm in the cold hard reality of the present day and the pragmatic realism that can lift this nation to join the modern world. Where we should now be debating the awful traffic jam you have just experienced in Somali's biggest city as you came from work and that great new sushi place that has opened downtown- rather than a full on forlorn occupied disaster it is presently. Come and join me, in this new thinking.

The brother is talking tough, when he says he is prepared to attack and invade Pakistan, without their permission or not to find Al-Qaeida. Think of that a Black man, with the power to rout the rag heads and the backwards and send shivers down their spine. It makes me very proud. He is leading the news with this policy statement and it is making a impact. He is front page on BBC and NYTimes and no doubt everywhere else with this. If we think strategically, it is important, as i have been saying that we allign with Black nations, cause right now we are not seen as such. We are being killed with impunity as a legacy of mixing with the Arabs and their culture and what have we got from it. Nothing. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Obama-Terrorism.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Great job this women is doing, any know how to reach her directly so I can send money? http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-doctor1aug01,0,6618387,full.story?coll=la-home-center

That is very observent of you Juje. Well done.

London is home to 200 nationalites, the whole world is there. If Somalis are victim of white hate, then so must the 200 groups be there too. That is no answer. And why this running war with the west indians. For what purpose is that for? Why antagonize them and for comical reasons. False Pride. Why are the Somalis always in the midst of this. Why do they stand out. The question needs to be asked. The worlds poorest and most shamed people have no business in my opinion to swagger in the streets of London, like they are the son of P.Diddy. You never see the other communities involved in this type of events. Why never the Ethiopians or Eritreans. They keep their head down and get on with it. If there is news of gang violence or gun crime today, you can be assured there is going to be a Somali victim or perpautuer. Please don't blame racism, that would be most convenint. There is terrible racism here in Milan, but I'm the only black person in this city with a suit going to work every day, the rest sell trinkets in the streets or clean private homes. One should have values. Those who live in London are far far more lucky, they have opportunity at their feet. But yet with false pride they have swallowed in this rotten gang culture and failing all around.

What is happening. Why are they targetting Somalis. Why is the victim always a Somali. Why are they involved in gangs and this rotten culture.

Ask me anything. I'm here to help. If you need my email address, please send me pm.

Nef.Ari.ous, don't believe what they say. Their head is so deep in Arab stank, they can't see a way out. Worshipping their Arab master.

Dhulqarnayn -alSumaale, you can try harder than quoting a white supremasict website. I would give you even more credence than that.

Elysian, it is only a partial list that is gathered. There are countless others. Let us not forget that the first heart surgery was done by a black surgeon.

Oh please, this is not about who invented whom. We'll be spending entire weeks discussing lists. This topic was started to reinforce in people's mind, the importance of knowing who they are and where they come from and be proud of that. The arabs have done their damage and the result is to see. Their input is should I say, a bit like a tree that is empty inside. Lets expand the topic and deal with real issues (where we come from) and not the fluff, arabization has thrown out. Don't be fooled by this brotherhood nonsense, it is everyman for himself.

Good deal for the northern province. I spent 3 months in Malaysia. Truly a wonderful country. Excatly the type of countries to develop relations wih.

That is what I know. I didn't try to find out, anything else. Cause I don't want too.

Don't let the Arab brainwashing evil blind you into forgetting that we are Black and we should be proud of it. They want to use us as mules for their evil ambition and bankrupt culture. We should be proud to be black and work towards eliminating all that Arabs have given us. Don't talk to them and don't mix with them. They consider you to be a slave. We should try to make a strong effort in mixing and reaching out to other blacks, as we are in the situation now, where we are seen as being 'arab mules'. This is putting us at risk and it is very dangerous as the Arabs are enemies of powerful people and countries one should use to develop yourself. Here is a list of Black inventions. air conditioning unit Frederick M. Jones July 12, 1949 air ship (dirigible) J.F. Pickering 1892 almanac Benjamin Banneker 1791 — approximate date automatic car coupling for trains Andrew Beard 1897 automatic cutoff switch Granville T. Woods January 1, 1839 automatic fishing device G. Cook May 30, 1899 automatic gear shift Richard Spikes February 28, 1932 automatic lubricating system for railroads and machines Elijah McCoy October 27, 1891 automatic shoe making machine Jan Matzelinger 1883 baby buggy W.H. Richardsopn June 18, 1899 bicycle frame L.R. Johnson October 10, 1899 biscuit cutter Alexander P. Ashbourne November 30, 1875 blood plasma bag, blood bank Charles Drew 1945 — approximate date caps for bottles and jars A.E. Long & A.A Jones 1898 casket lowering device A.C. Richardson November 3, 1894 cellular phone Henry T. Sampson July 6, 1971 chamber commode T. Elkins January 3, 1897 clothes dryer G.T. Sampson June 6, 1862 clothes wringer Ellen Elgin 1880s combined furrow opener and stalk knocker G.W. Murray April 10, 1894 cotton chopper G.W. Murray June 5, 1894 cultivator and marker G.W. Murray April 10, 1894 curtain rod S.R. Scratton November 30, 1899 curtain rod support William S. Grant August 4, 1896 door stop O. Dorsey December 10, 1878 dust pan Lawrence P. Ray August 3, 1897 egg beater Willie Johnson February 5, 1884 electric lampbulb Lewis Latimer March 21, 1882 elevator Alexander Miles October 11, 1867 eye protector P. Johnson November 2, 1880 electric railway trolley Elbert R. Robinson 1880s fire escape bracket C.V. Richey December 28, 1897 fire escape ladder J.W. Winters May 7, 1878 folding bed L.C. Bailey July 18, 1899 folding chair Brody & Surgwar June 11, 1889 fountain pen W.B. Purvis January 7, 1890 fruit press Madeline M. Turner 1916 furniture caster O.A. Fisher 1878 galoshes A.L. Rickman 1898 gas mask Garrett A. Morgan October 13, 1914 golf tee G. F. Grant December 12, 1899 guitar Robert F. Flemming, Jr. March 3, 1886 hair brush Lydia O. Newman November 15, 18? heating furnace Alice Parker 1918 hand stamp Walter B. Purvis February 27, 1897 horse shoe J. Ricks March 30, 1885 ice cream Augustus Jackson 1832 ice cream scooper A.L. Cralle February 2, 1897 improved sugar making Norbet Rillieux December 10, 1887 insect destroyer gun A.C. Richard January 9, 1894 ironing board Sarah Boone August 19, 1884 key chain F.J. Loudin May 19, 1889 lantern Michael C. Harvey December 8, 1893 lawn mower L.A. Burr July 23, 18? lawn sprinkler J.S. Smith May 4, 1897 lemon squeezer J. Thomas White November 15, 1895 lock W.A. Martin 1887 lunch pail James Robinson June 11, 1893 mail box Paul L. Downing June 27, 1893 mop Thomas W. Stewart June 11, 1893 motor Frederick M. Jones June 27, 1939 multiplex telegraph system (allowed messages to be sent and received from moving trains) Granville T. Woods 1887 peanut butter George Washington Carver 1896 pencil sharpener J.L. Love November 23, 1897 planter G.W. Murray April 10, 1894 railway air brakes (first safe method of stopping trains) Granville T. Woods 1903 range oven Thomas Carrington 1876 record player arm Joseph Hunger Dickenson January 8, 1819 refining of coconut oil A.P. Abourne July 27, 1980 refrigerator John Standard June 14, 1891 riding saddles W.D. Davis October 6, 1895 rolling pin John W. Reed 1864 shampoo headrest C.O. Baliff October 11, 1898 small pox inoculation (he brought this method from Africa where advanced medical practices were in use long before Europeans had any medical knowledge) Onesimus 1721 spark plug Edmond Berger February 2, 1839 spring seat for chairs A. B. Blackburn April 3, 1888 steam boiler/radiator Granville T. Woods 1884 stethoscope Imhotep Ancient Egypt stove T.A. Carrington July 25, 1876 straightening comb Madame C.J. Walker 1905 — approximate date street sweeper Charles B. Brooks March 17, 1890 pastry fork Anna M. Mangin March 1, 1892 pencil sharpener J.L. Love November 23, 1897 phone transmitter Granville T. Woods December 2, 1884 portable fire escape D. McCree November 11, 1890 thermostat control Frederick M. Jones February 23, 1960 toilet T. Elkins 1897 traffic light Garrett A. Morgan November 20, 1923 two cycle gasoline engine Frederick M. Jones November 28, 1950 tricycle M.A. Cherry May 6, 1886 trolley car Granville T. Woods 1888 typewriter Burridge & Marshman April 7, 1885 window cleaner A.L. Lewis 1892

Originally posted by Dabshid: Distant does always gives you the right to own. Anyway, a King in Bari region sold it to Yemenis for few old rifles,and ammunitions. Are you serious???

I have always wondered why Socotra is part of Yemen. It is only 100km of Somalia at it's western most point. Yemen is 400km away. Appartently there is a community of Somalis living in the island, who co-exist with the yemenis, peacefully. And that the highest mountain in the island is called 'Somali Mountain'. Variously described as a 'Island of Wonder' and a world heritage site. What is the history of this place, does anyone know. Why has Somalia never claimed this island. Potentially the marine resources of Somalia is very great. But we have never bothered above the vast ocean and the lands and people that is immediately surround it. Why? http://www.yementimes.com/print_article.shtml?i=796&p=letters&a=2

So it is basically built on a pile of sand. If they have listed those assets down. Then it is basically a forward looking statement. Hence maybe that is why the market looks down on their value historically. But then again, you only need a estimate of 'probable reserves' to satisfy the market. Difficult as nowhere in Somalia has produced anything in the first place.

So it is basically built on a pile of sand. If they have listed those assets down. Then it is basically a forward looking statement. Hence maybe that is why the market looks down on their value. But then again, you only need a estimate of 'probable reserves' to satisfy the market. Difficult if you have hardly produced anything in the first place.

A belated happy birthday! Sahardid.

Originally posted by Sophist: peace now! what is the Tudor's website? Their website is www.tudorfunds.com Because it is a hedge fund, they are essentially private pooled funds. So they are not required to submit full disclosure. Only to their investors You can get more information on the people behind the fund on http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firmBasicDetails.do?sid=61704 Originally posted by KEYNAN22: quote:Peacenow wrote: If that is so and there is oil. Then the deal has got to be declared invalid. Absolutly! this deal must be declared invalid sooner than later. If the big oil companies conduct a take over bid on Range Resources LTD then it will be extremely hard to revoke this presposterous contract. It will be very difficult, that is true. But because it simply must be done. There are a number of things a authority can do. That is to say, if there is any authority or central government that is prepared to act. And secondly that it is competent. It can approach the world press and tap into the Africa sentiment there is now in the world's media. If it is unfair and unjust, they will be people prepared to listen.