Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: WATCH YOUR WORDS SXB ,,,,,,,,,,,, HISTORY IS CHANGING Indeed, it is changing and we all have to embrace it..

Originally posted by Mj. bada Cas: Is this the Zayid? If not, from Yaqoori,hello. Everyone can critize whom they disagree with,that is basic human right abti. Ethiopia does use the port of berbera,for one I dont'mind the bussiness of other goods, but I am 100% against importing tanks, weapons to harm other Somalis. No one here supports that abti. Now, since I bursted that bubble, why are you supporting the TFG? Mr. BC, that is your personal view and it is well taken but have you ever asked yourself why your administration can neither dare to comment on the ongoing Ethiopian occupation nor could have come to the aid of the suffering Somali people If,indeed, your admin. is an independent entity from Meles' influence, I ask?

Whether this brotherly, virtue advice changes the heart and mind of Chairman Silanyo remains to be seen, I say An Open Letter to Silanyo Dear Sir: Please accept my sincere apology for using your nickname in the title of this missive to you. Tradition dictates that I, a man many years your junior, address you in a manner that befits your grand stature among Somalis of all clans and your seniority in age to me. That you can relate to how I feel and, thus, commiserate with me in my discomfiture at having to use your nickname I am sure. I was born and bred in Aden, the town that presented you to the Somali nation; and I spent most of my schooling in Erigavo, Dayaha and Sheikh, a region that you hail from. It is, therefore, in the grand spirit of the manners fed to both of us since childhood that I apologize to you. You have never heard of me; but you may have seen me, a tiny figure among many, in Dayaha boarding school, many years ago. You spoke to us as we sat cross-legged on the dirt under an umbrella-shaped tree at the center of the School’s garden. Such size and shade of an acacia tree I have never seen! Like so much of Sanag region, the tree was legendary. The Sayyid himself used to tether his horse to this majestic tree, we heard. (Unbeknownst to you, you may have actually stood on the very spot where more than half a century earlier the Sayyid may have delivered one of his epic poems.) Now, however, and for this one day, you were our Sayyid. With a smooth and deft blend of vigor and tenderness, you spoke. Motivational themes of advice and guidance spouted forth and held captive serious and eager kids many a mile from kith and kin. Dayaha, I should emphasize, was a desolate valley surrounded by hills. If not for the brook and the books and each other, the students would have felt in a prison of sorts. Unlike today’s boys with guns, we fell in love with the books. And for some of us, that romantic affair continues to this day unabated. It could have never been otherwise, could it, with the likes of Hurre, Dalab, Dhegaweyne, Abdi Hussein Mattan, and Ismail Dualeh Qambi as educators. Such were the days when Somali boys from the countryside and the remotest villages could hope and dream. Such were the halcyon days of yore! Dayaha, however, has fallen on hard times, as has Somalia as a whole. Gone are the days when a Somali child could laugh and play in peace or hold a book and have a dream. Gone are the days when we could think of ourselves as a nation and not as clans. Gone are the days when an Ethiopian boot on our sacred soil was a national shame. And so have the days when a leading Somali of the highest educational and professional standing could travel to an out-of-the-way boarding school and, like an enlightened parent, gather young, promising boys around himself and inspire them and challenge them and point the way to a bright future—a future that to most, it pains me to say, never arrived. I have got carried away; for these are times not to daydream but rather to rise to the challenge and face the dreadful reality before us. Sir, the former North East Region of Somalia (now, Togdheer, Sanag, and Sol), an area we both hail from, is in grave peril of being swept by currents well beyond the control of its people. Careworn locals stand at risk of being dragged one way or another and the peace and security they have enjoyed for over a decade and a half are about to slip away. What do you think your role should be? Is it a time to grandstand and follow the frenzied mob, or a time to be the voice of reason and save the people from the looming inferno? You will agree with me that your dutiful pupil, albeit for one day, is entitled to ask questions, which I hope you will take as questions deferred from that shining moment of years ago. As my former teachers will tell you, never did I let a question slip away. With you, however, my inquisitive mind chose to relax and relish the moment. References to Ibn Khaldoun and Sheikh Zubeir, obscure to me at the time, I put away in the back of my head for retrieval at a later date. That later date has now arrived. The drums of war sound ominously as dark clouds gather over Sanag. It is spring. The earth is soft and verdant. The scent of blossom wafts over the air, and the twitter of the birds mingle with the piercing chirps of various insects coming back to life in the rainy season. It is time for milk and honey, time to sing and dance, time to wed and mate, throughout good old Sanag, the mythical mother of the Somali nation. It is the sacred land of proud Sanag with its tradition in the east, vibrant energy in the center, pluck and grit in the west, coming together in harmony and a prefect blend. And the clock ticks away to mark the hour when the guns begin to roar. And yet, and yet, it need not be, if we could only use our minds right. The origin of the conflict is not whether Sol and Eastern Sanag belong to Puntland or Somaliland but rather Somaliland’s irrational policy to separate all of the former North from the former South. Somaliland’s attempt to secure the “border,” inherently a vicious act of violence, is a threat to peace for many people of different clans and different regions; for to reach the “border,” Somaliland forces will have to stomp over a local populace determined to remain part of Somalia. On Somaliland, therefore, lies the burden of choice: Respect the will of the people of Sol and Eastern Sanag, who pose no threat to anyone, or start a war that can benefit no one. Should, God forbid, the choice be war, how many more lives of every age and from all clans, East and West, will go in flames? It is not for me to give advice to Somaliland’s leaders, as I am one who adamantly holds onto Somali unity. Yet, places like Eil Afwein, Erigavo, Dayaha, Burao, Sheikh, Berbera, Hargeisa, Borama, Amoud, and the many wonderful people I have known over the years since childhood beckon to me. Nostalgia overwhelms me. So, let me say it is my earnest hope that Somaliland will not throw caution to the wind. This is a venture fraught with tremendous risks, both militarily and politically. Will and valor, always in high supply to the sons and daughters of Somaliland, cannot the place of wisdom take. Raw emotion dulls the mind. Single-mindedness can so easily lead to simple-mindedness. Miscalculation is a recipe for disaster. Why am I writing to you? I really do not know. Is it the frustration of a middle-aged man, unwilling to let youth slip away? Is it the babble of a lunatic? Or the musings of the roving, restless mind that has been my affliction since childhood? Perhaps, perhaps not. At any rate, let me say to you THANK YOU for the moment you granted me and many others so long ago—a moment that for me continues to shine through the fog of time. Respectfully Yours, Mohamoud Ali Gaildon E-Mail: mgaildon@aol.com source: wardheernews

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Doesn't mean i agree with the writer 100% ,,,,,,but heey, he has got some interesting points ,,,,,,,,,, The question that one would ask is; does the choice of these regions matter at all?, mise xaalku waa shimbirayahow heesa..

Cantarobaqash iga dheh!

Jacaylbaro. If SNM are your saints and at the same time they are my foes, do you see end to this cycle?.

Neither do I want to see a big government in Somalia for many reasons

Originally posted by Samurai Warrior: Waa fikir saliim ah, ee bartaa ka sii botoriya idinna! Beware tho' the wolf in the sheep's cloth! Maakhir - waa adiga dhul Maakhir meegaaraye, maxaad ku hindistay in aad Mudug ka reebto Puntland inteeda kale? Mise waaba kaa dhab oo waa ay kula simbiriirixatay oo warba uma haysid in khariidadda kaa daba babanaysaa ay Nugaal uun ku eg tahay? Mise Eyl wixii Koonfur ka xigaa waa carra qalo? Oo dee dhankaa iyo carro Jiidali iyana ha laga war hayo! Waanu kaaga mahad celinaynaa hadaadba nala garatay in arrintani tahay feker bedqaba, ta kale saaxiib maxaad ku diiday haddaanu iska botorino,nin kastoo kaleba botoriye Xagga qariirada Puntland wax baa ka khaldan laakiin siduu Maakhir sheegayba fariin kale inuu gudbiyo buu ka lahaa qariiradan. Ha lays daba dhabooloqo, bal aan aragno dhaxalkee

Originally posted by Maakhir: quote:Originally posted by Hunguri: Originally posted by Dabshid: . PS:- Maakhir,Dabshid, and M, I wont have an objection if you guys come up an action that can stop these boys with the uniform from the influence of both S-land and Puntland. But, no empty words! They can simply change their supplied uniforms into locally made ones. Let us ask ourselves what benefit might result from being part of Puntland. It is not an internationally recognized entity instead it is regarded as grassroots level of self-management. Don't look at the brand names, it is all political to psychologically disarm you and make you more dependent. It does not matter what office or position you hold. Our concern is that you should take care of your business and make your environment more peaceful and prosperous. As Paragon said, to wait someone else deliver you notes or tell you what to do is demeaning and has long-term effect on top of the deterioration of security and underdevelopment. Lol@ lethal injection. It indeed has longtime psychological negative impact and our offspring may even feel inferior to their peers and in retrospect believe that they are incapable of doing anything for themselves.

Mr. Xiinfaniin, I believe neither you nor I has the time and resources to zoom in to the past and analyze the causes of the Somali anarchy and why Somalia failed as a state, however, I will slightly touch why our deep-rooted conflict inquires bold approaches and may be even odd ones at sometimes. The causes of a failed state include but aint limited to; when a government can’t provide security, education, healthcare, infrastructure to its citizens and marginalizes a large segment of the society where handful of the population questions the legitimacy of the government and zetra. With all that said, when Somali’s central government collapsed and it disintegrated into its primitive ways of doing business, subsequent to that each tribe regrouped themselves in their regions; NOTE those regions that we associate with clans are not permanent since 50 years ago if you look the map up, clans were affected by natural pull/push factors and in 50 years from today we will not be talking about the current status quo…. After considering all other alternatives, I reached the decision of self-governed administration in SSC would be the best alternative to adapt, first and foremost for ourselves, and then for PL and SL. When our said state materializes we will raise the bar of competition within the three administrations, be that may trade, system of governance, security and education. Doing that will enable these administrations to cooperate their trio security concerns and development which eventually lead to a win-win scenario where this part of the country will be a power house in terms of economy and the way of governance. Mr. Xiin I see the shortcomings of such a move for de facto Danwadaag State, but mark my word if even the way PL government does business isn’t changed and challenged now. I wouldn’t be surprised and it may become inevitable that more rift and tension kicks in within the remainder of the population where we may even see Reer Bari vs Reer mudug let alone Reer Sool, Sanaag and Buuhoodle. This reminds me the slogan of JF Kennedy which goes like "Some men see things as they are and say why. I dream things that never were and say why not." Therefore, why not Danwadaag State!, it never existed and envisioning it wouldn’t be a crime I guess! because even if we fail, we just have to blame ourselves and believe me life is all about trial and errors. I just want my people remove the shackles of SL, PL mercenaries(traitors) from themselves. Finally, I agree with you that our approach is not a permanent solution to the Somali dilemma in the long run but for sure a temporary one which has also conformity the longtime envisioned of bottom-up approach. Hope you understand our position.

Maakhir, Agreed 100%, well thought analysis, it also inquires guts to undertake it..

Originally posted by AYOUB: If the allegation that Muuse Naasoole has leased Lasqorey to Ethios is true, then more conflict is around the corner. Paragon What are the borders of the suggested Danwanaag (nice name btw). What assurance it won't bring even disputes more rather than solve them? AYOUB: Are you in sane regarding Las Qoray developments?, borders will not be an easy thing to do and even more difficult the one your admin is calling for. However, after long research and analysis done by the Danwadaag Diaspora communities,they recognized that the cost of being happy with the status quo is too high. As known, when this kind of project is initiated, we've to set an arbitrary point, basically we know each other, who is who and who lives in where .. therefore,first, lines will not be important since we are all interdependent on one way or another but what will matter most is seeing indigenous running their own affairs who will be able discussing the mutual developments, security and other issues with their neighbor administrations. Pragon, No more traitors on our lands, all our ideas are converging that execution of traitors must our number one priority!, Alas, futile exercise iga dheh.. Las Qoray port is a must project as that will be the economic backbone of our newly envisioned autonomous state. This needs lots of hard work, determination, and will. I am afraid if we don't take this road the curse of Allah may happen to us..

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: ^^^Thanks for the history recap. I didn't ask to justify the very of existence of SNM. Iam just wondering what does its struggle get do to those that don't share its goals namely the tribes that the SNM didn't represent. Give me a reason why a citizen in Dhahar should be part of Somaliland? And why dismember Somalia? Very valid question?, the opponents can't face it and come up a reasonable support.. Bada Cas.. Buhodle as far as it is concerned it is the capital of Ain region?, but historical context it used to be Togdheer region. get it

Originally posted by Superfluous: Sidii subagaga ayee qabyaaladu uga da'aysaa duntan. War Soomaaliyadan iyo rabshadeeda maan iska dayno hadii ay sheekadu reer hebel ay dhaafahayn? Marba calan bee noo soo qaadanayaan, anana waan ognahay meesha ay ka soo socdoon iyo meesha ay u socdaan. waa yara khafiifaye, calaacalka ii daaya Walee maad khafiifine, nin xikmad badan baad tahaye Alle ha kuu siyaadiyo

Originally posted by Suldaanka: ^^You can bring your flag and your army given that you were invited to Hargeysa by its leaders. Somaliland didn't go there out of the blue. This came as a result of a long discussions and the locals were very much anticipating for their arrival, until Puntland out of jealousy tried to make a mess out of the situation. A good example of "Cadaw ku cunay ama ku ciidayey" sort. Rer Dhahar have brains and understand who is the aggressor. Indeed they do, and more importantly they will prevail from aggressors...

Originally posted by Suldaanka: ^ You are qouting me out of the context sxb. About the hasty union. Indeed it was a terrible mistake that my representatives committed in the 1960s. But I understand that everything they did they did it because they believed in it, because they thought that a strong and united SOmalia was the way forward. It weren't meant to be. And it turned out the complete opposite to what they envisioned. Lets just blame at lack of knowledge from their side. Ok, we agree that a general referendum might be an answer to this question. I would be open to what the experts say when the time comes. Good night Saaxiib, at least we agreed to disagree which is not a bad deal at all.

Mr. suldaanka, First, The parts of the constitution that I detested, honestly, I read it 10 years ago and I've to do my homework and make available to the public. Secondly, regarding the reunification of the unity in 1960 as known my then representatives stated their position clearly which was not to rush to the union, a fact, your people took the flag to the capital.. and now you are complaining that that marriage malfunctioned.. Thirdly, I am also as well for referendum but that also has its own legal implications, for instance the following questions will eventually service: --Whom should we ask the referendum the northerners or the whole somali nation?. --Should we ask each region or even every district for that matter?. --How would it be carried out? As you can see either of these options ain't easy, a good analogy would be the rebellion Quebec region and Canada, it doesn't matter if all Quebec people vote for annexation, that exercise will be just futile because the decision will then be put to the whole Canadian citizens?, and what the majority says will be ratified that is why there is no juicy solution to the problem, because legally as you know, you can't just say that I withdraw from the union because I am dissatisfied with its performance therefore your administration lacks the legality of doing the dismemberment of the motherland properly. I am quoting you "I would say, since those clans that formerly supported Puntland but are now searching for an alternative even entertaining the idea of establishing their own, to seriously consider the better alternative which Somaliland presents." Is it not your above remark a derogatory, bias and impartial. With whatever it is, the way I see it it is a good entertainment, it doesn't cost you anything to embrace it. Till then have lovely time

Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: Horta mid aan idin waydiiyo, If the calanka Ethiopia is there, and the AU flag is there plus the blue one, then why not Somaliland ??? I THINK INUU BUUBAA KA TAAGAY ,,,,,,,,,,, Aha, hadalkaagu waa gar

Originally posted by nabadshe: Mansa Munsa the Answear is That In garoowe and boosaso you will be taken for garnted just as Didi says here Its natural that you belong to Puntland Period. While In hargeysa and Boorama you will be treated with a note of seriousness and dignity. Simply because you are a significant party to the alliance and not A natural party that can be easly dismissed. The fallacy of your logic is a hast conclusion!

Dear Mr. Maakhir, Thanks for your feedback about the grim, self-wound that we are suffering with it now, it is a self-evident that God was extremely fair and generous to us because HE entrusted us sufficient landmass and resourceful people but we were not grateful and that is why we are in a limbo situation. Where there is a will there is away, Las Qoray project must go forward, we've got to take things into our own hands, we've been spectators on the Somali political discourse so much and so long, these mercenaries of our regions have to be punished and even execution must be considered for the sake of the common good. Mr. Maakhir, you are one of those visionaries that call independent administration which will be able safeguarding the interest of our people, the implementation phase has to be initiated, I tell you that it is going to be a rocky road and a long one to take but rest assured there is no other way out! enduring the ordeal of this endeavor is a must!, I say

Originally posted by nabadshe: quote:The people of Dahar belong with Puntland. I would have respected your guts if only you would shout the same words to Meles and tell him that the ppl of ****** region belong with Somalia. They do!

Mr. Suldaanka, Our differences are out there all to see, I've to come to a conclusion of respecting your position while I, as for one who is from the considered area, will never give up my God given freedom to anyone that includes your clan militia in which you call them "Somaliland National armed forces". Furthermore, I’ve read your so called constitution, and to be honest there is some good stuff in it but in some areas is unacceptable to me or anyone else unless he/she is your clan. The constitution is extremely biased at some points and calls for supremacy, nothing wrong with that but I question its practicality in this 21st century, I have too many questions for you but I can't state them since your threshold of change is so insignificant. Mr. Suldaanka, what are your objections towards to a federal Somali government where wealth and power shared evenly and in proportion instead of campaigning an elusive regional government?. I would personally rather prefer that you leave alone the people of Sool and Sanaag till they sort out their internal issues because if your admin. pushes them into a corner, it will simply backfire. My last question to you is: let me first declare my disclaimer, I care less about the clanish mantra in supportive of the ideas of the philosopher you referenced to, "Interest" will be what will unite the people. Geopolitically, what sort of interest am I supposed to have with the people of Hargeisa and Borama that I can't have with the people of Garowe and Bosaso, pls, put aside your clan affiliations for moment, think thoroughly and for the sake of the common good, come up with reasonable answer. Till then peace to you, I say

my bet!

Mr. Suldaanka, I can see that your poliscie lessons are working for your well regarding the way you articulate your point of views with, of course, their own fallacies and distortions in them. With that said, It is so easy and so good to say that your administration, namely Somaliland, is calling for a fair system and a centralized government, to implement the said system is the harder part, agreed?. Consider these questions; why boys of Hargeisa, Borame and Berbera die in Sool and Sanaag regions?, is it justifiable?, secondly, your constitution is calling multipart system, which in essence I like it but your represented each one of your Habar-Xs for one party, and ignored others... I am assuming that is the way you concieve justice?. All in all, your administration would have done well and have been much better off, have they concentrated on the things that matter most before they seek dominance and land expansion? Which are apparently fighting with corruption, promoting more transparent government as such other regions of the land could have reciprocated your hardly achieved form of governance. However, my friend you guys killing your opportunity, don't try to exercise something beyond your scope of influence because if war breaks out within the communities of the north of Somalia, it may be protracted one and believe me the loss of human life and material wealth will be enormous. In my dictionary, war has no winners but losers Till then stay cool!

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: Suldaan....LooooooooL@Clanism You owe your entire existence as state to clanism. The last time I checked no son of Buhoodle, Sool, Eastern Sanaag, and even Awdal died for the "liberation" of Somaliland. Well Put Mr.Che-Guevara