There is nothing wrong with the politics section except the oneliners trollers. What most of you mentioned is what keeps this section thriving, the diverse, extreme and somewhat clanish politics we witness on a daily basis. But that is the reality of Somali politics. You cannot honestly talk about Somali politics without any referral whatsoever to certain things such factions, regions and administration - that stand for clans or perhaps are mainly supported by certain clans. And the buzz word here is HONESTY.

Carafaat, stop jumping the gun, I did not talk about Puntland nor praised it. I said Somaliland needs to evolve and change its political agenda. Acting as if Barre is still in Mogadishu, inciting the old age hatred for the south and singing SNM anthems for two decades is sad. Its so sad that the politicians over there don't ever grow up from these petty simplicity. Also Puntland could be blamed for a lot of things but have moved on from that old age politics and the SSDF days, no one talks about Barre anymore and no one talks of Mogadishu in light of massacres that took place in 1991, but yes there is power struggle. Yes, power struggle and sheer selfishness that plugged all Somalis.

I knew that tape would invoke such response and reactions. Somalia's conflict was at a melting point during that specially the wars that occurred between Mogadishu, Kismayo, Gedo, Biadoa and all the way to the Kenyan Border. However, its unnecessary to respond to Keydmedia, they are a well known group - markaa intaa un halooga haro.

The term Somalilanders is the title and in the context of this thread means SNM secessionist clan. Somaliland siyaasada beelaysiga kudhisan nacayb abuurka Somalia loo qabo hadii wax laga badalo wax badan ayaa hagaagi lahaa. Siyaasada SL ayaa wali taagan meeshii sagaashameeyadii ay taagnaayaan iyagoo udhaqmaya wali sidii inuu Siad Barre meesha joogo, iyadoo Konfuurta Somaliyana isbadal badan kadhacay marxalado badanna ay martay laakiin waxaad moodaa walaalaheed SL inaysan samayn wax hormar fikirka ama dhanka siyaasadooda kuwajahan koonfurta Somalia dhowr iyo labaatanki sano ee lasoo dhaafay, and that is sad.

Where is Maadeey to tell us why did his uncle, spiritual leader and jihadist, gave up and surrendered to the AMISOM Gaalo and their lackeys the TFG.

The man behind all the wars in Somalia that were religiously motivated, Hasan Dahi Aweeys, surrendered to the Somali government. Does this signal the end of Alshabaab and Somali religious fanaticism or is it another trick to buy survival for now only to orchestrate and trigger another bloody rebellious campaign that will lead to the death of hurdreds an thousands of innocent Somalis ---------------------------- DEGDEG: Xasan Daahir Aways oo Dowlada isku soo dhiibay. Ilo lagu kal soonyahay oo aan ka halayno Aqalka Madaxtooyada dowlada ayaa waxaa ay sheegayaan in Hogaamiyihii hore ee Ururkii bur buray ee Xisbul islaam kuna biiray Al-shabaab Xasan daahir Aways uu kasoo goostay Al-shabaab kuna soo biiray dowlada. Sheekh Xasan daahir Aways ayaa waxaa lasheegayaa in Sacaadaha soo socda lakeeni doono Aqalka Madaxtooyada ee Vila Somaliya,maadaama uu isku soo dhiibay dowlada KMG ah,. Wararka waxaa ay intaas kudarayaan in Masuuliyiin katirsan dowlada ay aadeen dhanka degmada Afgooye oo lasheegayo in Xasan Daahir Aways uu yimid si ay ugu soo wadaan halkaas. Xiriirka kadhaxeeyay Xasan daahir Aways oo mudooyinkaan kamid ahaa Saraakisha Al-shabaab ayaa waxaa uu ahaa Mid aad uliitay’dhowrjeerna Xasan daahir Shabaab ayuu weeraro Afka ah kuqaaday. Dhawaan xasan Daahir ayaa ku eedayay Al-shabaab inay wataan Shaati Islaam sheegasho ah oo Shacabkana lagu laynayo ‘waxa jirtay markii hadalkaas uu dhahayay in Askari katirsan Al-shabaab uu Fiiriyay Sheekh Xasan Daahir Aways,waxaa uu yiri Mr Aways maxaa iisoo fiirinaysaa,ma idilaysaan ,Xaqa ayaan kutaaganahay ayuu Yiri Xasan Daahir Kamana baqayo Al-shabaab. Al-shabaab ayaa looga baqayay inay Dilaan mudooyinkan dambe Xasan Daahir Aways madaama iyaga u kasoo horjeesatay Sida ay wax uwadaan,oo ay kamid yihiin dilka,qaraxyda iyo kuwa kale. Waxii kusoo kordha isku dhiibada Xasan Daahir dowlada kala Soco Alpuntland.com.

Lool, I laughed not because the thread is funny the comments of the contributors. Ngonge offered 'hiil' to fight for the girl of the clan, seriously? Also Alpha's claim to belong to a Somali clan , I always thought the man's dad was Mali and his mom Somali, mase clan-ki of the mother ayuu sheeganayaa

SOL conquest of Mogadishu is a toll order, its a must thing some time in the near future but its the timing that's the issue here as LST pointed out. Reer SOL meesha waa in mar la iskugu tagaa sidii duufaan soo kacday aan Muqdisho qabsanaa oo soo waalnaa, kuwa Hip Hop iyo R&B heesana hore noogu soo kaxeeya sida rudy iyo Alphablondy lasameeyo three days festivals on the main stadium, reer Mogdishu hayaabaan oo dhahaan DAYUUSBARO wareersan aa yimid, obviously politics-ka waa ina laqasaa lasameeya a short lived SOL party.

Loooooooool @ Shariif Sakiin. That woman had too much fadhi-kudirir in her life markaa meesha waxay mooday inay fadhi-kudirirki joogto But Odayaasha's protest was unnecessary, this is a protocol issue concerning the conference administration and co-ordinators, waxay ahayd in naagtaa un meesha laga saaro.

Is a turn off mate, I tried my best to watch it but I couldn't get myself past 15 seconds. I find anyone watching the whole 1 min 45 sec to be extremely tolerant.

^I understand your point and perhaps the source of your anger. There are those extreme cases when people use religion/anything for their own wicked agendas and oppress the weak; and mostly take advantage of children and women. It happens all the time but no society should allow that, its unacceptable. Of course, as well as learning Diin and Qur'aan the girl should get access to school and other forms of education.

^Its my business to tell you off if you get into my business and start disrespecting my beliefs. This is not the first time I observed you make such comments about Islam. I was being a gentleman and polite with you but it seems you are calling for a fist fights. All I was saying is that since you don't seem to associate yourself with Islam and show less respect for it, don't ruin for those of us who have high respect and live by this faith, in essence and in short, keep your hate comments to yourself.

Famous sayings born during the civil war. War jiraaba caakaaruu imani Reer Koonfur to Reer Waqooyi: Xabadi keentay - I remember kuwo badan oo qaxooti from Hargeisa aan layaabi jirnay just briefly before the civil war kicked off in the south. Reer waqooyi to reer Koonfur: Xabadi sugtay - It was somewhat prophetic predictions but it was only a matter of time since the signs were all over.

^You are a troubled man. If you are not a man of faith and of this religion please stay out of commenting about matters regarding Islam. Masha'allah, she has a beautiful voice indeed.

What did Hadraawi say about Taleex?

Lool, Abtigiis is frustrated with Puntland successes. Now he's taking on Xiin to ease his frustrations. That's cool and I like your style, however when push comes to shove at least you know how to make your way back.

Excellent speech by Prime minister Abdiwali Ali Gaas.

^Don't defend the indefensible, of course mass corruption and mismanagement was wide open and the Turkish officials recognized this in the end. Also the report is not from Garoweonline.

Indeed Faysal Waraabe is the Yalaxow of Hargeisa. I still remember Yalaxow's analogy of 'Ukunta, Yaanyada and Kabo kaa waaweeyn' regarding Yey's Presidency, also his recent comment about the 80 millions Chinese claiming Somali citizenship regarding his opposition against the constitution. Similarly, I find it extremely funny when I hear Waraabe's comments on different matters, what I still find humorous and makes me laugh the comment he made when the Saracen plan intended for Puntland landed Hargeisa Airoport: ALHAMDULILAAH ilaahay ayaa noo soo dajiyay anigu awood malihin aan kusoo dajisanee

Ingenious, very ingenious man. Indeed Xaaji, isaga or Al-Haji Muse Yalaxow halagu daro wadahadalka, Waalee Siilaanyo wareer badan wuu arki lahaa

^That's even more interesting, the secessionist minister is told that his clan is well represented and needs not get through Samafal, yeah he traveled with that temporary travel papers issued by the British Embassies when one is sponsoring spouse.

Lool @ A Khadar, thats Kaftan dhab ah. In reality, Khaatumo's presence in this Conference as a force ridicules the whole secession claim. Carafaat there are more than a dozen threads in which all those things are being discussed. If you look back at the threads of the last few days or week, you will find that its more than 30 but this is only 1, so 1/30. Markaa please focus, defend your secessionist corner. No one is saying this is a big issue.

The aim is discussed by the Turkish Ambassador to Somalia in this Aljazeera report. Watch it here on this link: http://www.aljazeera.com/video/europe/2012/05/201253162357945454.html

Carafaat, I'm not trying to divert anything, tis you who's dwelling on a different issue. Remember and focus please, the thread is about Xaabsade's refusal of entry, as we all know you are here to defend the secessionists setback but defend it gracefully without changing the subject.

Masha'allah the young girl is upbeat; and colorful. It takes a breathe to say but courage to do. Most of us lack courage.