Originally posted by General Duke: Anyhow do not belive the hype, "southerners" do not hate each other as you guys want to belive..Its politics saxib, outside that we are still one people, one flag, one capital... Well Said General Duke. Tell Jaylaani whats up. He's deluded.

The value of doing nothing is how much you value your leisure time. Say you want to go into early retirement so you can go for very long vactions during the year doing nothing, it is going to be really expensive. It's all about how much you are willing to give up now to do nothing later.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Here you can sense where I am going with this. I do not believe their defeat had anything to do with any theological standing of theirs. Instead I think it came as a result of utter political and military failings. I am beginning to agree with NGONGE that icu were not cultured enough to decode current political goings of the region. They were simply new to this game. Their ambition of ridding what is current Somali ill of was not matched with the level of political competence such a task required. Decision-making powers seem to have not been concentrated in the right hands or if they were, whomever those hands might have belonged to, they were not making the right decisions. Theirs was analogous to a dizzied that came to the fork of a parting road and didn’t know which road to take: peace or war! ^^But again I am finding very difficult to reconcile that obvious fault with the caliber of the people who seemed to be running the show. The team that traversed in Arab capitals was the best Somalia could ever produce. Were they duped and led to say things that facts on the ground contradicted? Perhaps! I think reasoning effectively becomes slightly problematic when one is in the habit of articulating their hearts desires as reality all the time. Lets Move On Buddy.

Originally posted by Cambarro: Bob..that sounds scary..but wasnt there a one brave one to tackle the men and perhaps die as a martyr? A missed opportunity methinks Sarcasmka ii dilay. I think all the brave men were out fighting jihad with Osama.

Esh hathil fadheexa yacni a woman wearing black on her widding day :confused: Maybe she is Mujahid Red Sea cousin.

Why is he behaving like he is uncouth and uncultured? There is no excuse for a man of his age to act so edab daro and bilaa ixtiraam.

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: Besides, look who is talking,shut up Las Anod.lol Uf yaakhe reer waqooyi ha suubinin. See its ok not to be too fascinated with your hometown. Try it.

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: Honestly,I think reer Xamar and shukaansi have lost credibiltiy as ladies, yes ladies from both South and North are aware now that nothing is better than telling it like it is(that is our style)you feeling me. see waaye yaakhe Shukaansi labis maka horeeyo? North guys shukaans kow iyo labo ma joogtiin iska dhaaf focus on labis first then step by step yaah! Color-Coordination makaseesiin brown iyo yellow aa isku gashetiin. Even Versace suit hadii la idin siiyo xitaa ma jeesteenesiin yaah caadi aa u soconoosiin. Khabdaro iyo nus

Originally posted by Socod_badne: I find your story unreal. No Somali man would admit to being intimidated by a women unless his TFG supporter. lol. I had tears in my eyes from laughing.

Originally posted by Khalaf: on the topic i dont get it....she wears pants, works wit men..some will be criminals....some punk may even give her a slap on the butt or haraas her...could happen she puts herself in that position..... but wont shake hands....picks and chooses.....get out of here! Khalaf if you look at statistics you'll find out that women are more likely to be sexually harassed when working in a female dominated field as opposed to one that is traditionally considered a male job. For the rest who are passing a judgement supporting Muslims regardless of their decision is not the issue here but rather your ignorance of Islam. Depending on what madhab a person follows physical contact is not that serious of a matter. But when you don't have to touch a member of the opposite gender it's better to abstain.

There is no reason why she should be exposed to situations beyond her job requirements. And for the police force to not give someone a differential treatment that doesn't cause any hindrance in carrying out their job duties is discriminatory.

So what if she doesn't want to shake his hand? The police force should be prepared to meet the needs of its diverse and varied work force especially when it has to do with personal beliefs. Every career is suitable.

Funny how this only happens in Hargeisa.

Abdi2005, Who left you with the impression these people are the party of Allah? I'm referring to your signature. Tell me where in Islam it says to topple a legitimate elected government despite how failed and corrupt its members are? Besides leaders are just a reflection of those they lead. That is why we are a failed state up until now. Please don't insult our sense of Islamic duty by misplacing the application of God's word.

Aisha girl welcome. Make yourself feel at home. I got eri friends but they are orthodox christians. Unfortunately never met any muslim eritreans. On the other hand I got plenty of ethio muslim friends (hararis, amharas, oromos) and naturally I treat them with a lot of love and respect. Don't be fizzled out by all the hatred shown to you by the sheikh it's not for real.

^It is nonesensical because it's a not a noteworthy divide or an issue for that matter. And if there are people from the clan that herald this ungodly and unholy notion of disunity they are a minority who are paid pawns. I have seen how your friend Rahima reacted when someone suggested the people of Somaliland where divided on the issue of seccionism. This shouldn't catch your attention either. You'll never find people who are more pro-Somaliweyn then this clan.

Castro, This is not another barrage of mindless I'm right and you are wrong type debate mind you. I could tell you about my sources but I'm afraid the serious people who would utilize this vital information to reach enlightenement are not to be found in these spheres. Excuse me while I exit this discussion. PS; people what is with the name calling? Lets be civilized. You can disagree with people but don't take it to another level. Captain X express yourself man

^Ofcourse you couldn't resist see that is your problem. Always interjecting yourself everywhere. I didn't ask him where he got his information from, I already know he gets it from the media. I just directed him to seek more primary sources of information. Where do I get my info from lemme just put it this way for you. Not from the same sources as you. Capisce? Now beat it!

Lander, Countering the USSR is the most logical strategy to explain US involvement in the horn. Although there is some certainty to that and no one is denying it lets be realistic Somalia did not possess the geographic, economic, military or any other viable capacity to lessen much less remove impending Soviet threat. Neither did any country in East Africa including Ethiopia possess the potential to shift the balance of power between the two super powers. The Afghan jihad was a much more potent tool for that project. The reality is that 2 or 3 years before the invasion of Northern Somalia there was the presence of huge American oil conglomerates on Somali soil. There was the promise of oil and there was much effort dedicated to locating it and making preparations to drill out. Siad was the man who pimped his whole country to the them and as such he was a useful ally. There were acquainted with the plight of Northern Somalis and their struggles more than the average layman Somali like you and I. They helped put down the Northern rebellion and aided him in that. The civil war interjected itself in the efforts of the oil companies and they all pulled out prematurely. They are certainly going back they just have to make sure the environs are safe. Lander the truth shall set you free, I recommend that you go and find the leaders of yesteryear. They are around, well known government officials ask them if the Americans were involved or not. You will find more peace in this then providing proper burial for the slain dead. PS; That should be enough to give you a paradigm shift .

I always suspected this was the case and not just with welfare either. It's just that other ethnic groups are more apt at concealing their flaws.

Originally posted by LANDER: But just how involved has the U.S. been in this conflict and what more have they done to ensure the swift defeat of the ICU? What should be more important to you as a Lander is that the U.S. was the invisible hand behind Siad Barre's decimation of the population and the livelihood of the Somalis in the North. They provided the logistics, training, direction and support to carry out his military expeditions. US's involvement in the horn is a little to expansive to be enumarated. Your relying on the media to find out about all this makes everyone wanna say Earth to Lander!!!

EID MUBARAK nomads. Have a lovely one.

Originally posted by Castro: Though Saddam's hanging is just, his executioners are neither qualified to condemn him nor carry out his execution. I don't know who his executioners are, but if the Americans haven't handed him over to the Iraqis as of yet, the probability of him not being executed and getting smuggled out of the country is pretty high. People raised the same criticisms about Saddam's court hearings not being fair and his judges not being competent enough to sentence him. But who really cares. If he dies in the hands of Iraqis it's even more sweet. This man needs to go. And the sooner the better.

^^^You are such a miskiin. El muhim adiga ku dadaal in jidka laba ka dhigtid and Good bye.

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: How could those that facilitate the means to carry out his crimes put him to death. It is like hanging Zenawi for invading Somalia. Your anology reflects how ill-informed you are. Forget the issue of the kurds, Saddam and his sons were reeking havoc on the Iraqi public for years and years without the help of anyone. They thought they were invincible, what ever humiliation he suffers through the hands of the Americans he deserves it. Injustice is injustice regardless of who does it.