Come on gents I need more info, defend your choice, Napoleon a man I greatly admire not only for Military success but his personal achievement from the small island of Corsica to rule most of Continental Europe, however he still got defeated at the battle of Waterloo. Hannibal the genius that invented the outflanking manoeuvre, however his reign did not last long and he defeated the Romans when they where weak and divided. Even Genghis Khan’s forces only really faced serious resistance from Mamluk and they got defeated there. Khalid bin Al-Walid, now that’s a Military leader, who defeated two titans with a asmall army. One thing is common in most military success, it is the speed of manoeuvre and ability to make your foe fight in your terms that brings success not the size of the force.

^^lol, dee i had sometime this morning (wasted 1 hour debating back and forth). So who is your choice Sheh

Me and a Somali colleague at work are debating over who is the greatest Military leader? His choice - Frederick II of Prussia Mine – Genghis (Temujin) Khan The Determinants: • Size of land conquered • Time frame of reign • Speed of conquest • Size of Forces Some factors that could cost points: • The strength of the opponents • Environment • Logistics

Whats not a good choice?

Good on him, 300 NGO's with no recognizable result is unacceptable. Norf Saxiib this Dr could hold the key to what we were discussing the other day.

Ilaahay ha unaxariisto, Samir & Iimaan. men like these are very rare.

Sophist, Expand on the security plan. Kind rgrds T

Hahaha the Caano Geel (“Ethiopian Spy”) incident is stuff of legends, CL it’s a trial period, if Ibti can turn this incident where regular guys who had an argument about Whether Atam is a terrorist or not, into making me the champion of freedom of expression, hero of Somali Hablo, a role model for impoverished youth, she will make the grade. Norf saxiib are they chasing you abroad, I am thinking of relocating or at least pretending to be non-domicile to avoid the buggers.

Ibti in that case I need you to glamorise a recent incident where I was involved in a bust up outside a Fadhi ku dirir joint.

Psycho Somali, I concur with Norf Peace and Stability breeds development in all aspects of society. I am not knocking enterprises but you must realise that they are profit making entities, with out the rule of law and a strong government, they will do whatever they want for they are not held accountable to anyone. The current global economical crises is a good example.

MashAllah, congratulation Juxa. Juxa LLP, sign me up as your newest client (now all I need is a Publicist & Accountant and I have made it)

It is not easy to attract Foreign Direct Investments (FDI), put your self in the shoes of Multinational Corporation, why should they invest in Somalia, the DR Congo example is not in the same parable for the DRC provides a real incentive to invest (Fantastic reserves in natural resources). The bottom line is Somalia does not have educated workforce, the infrastructure is non existent, the rule of law is weak, Political instability is pandemic, lack of Good Governance, Unproven natural resources). If you want to spearhead FDI it should first start from Somalis, why should foreigners invest in Somalia when the wealthy Merchants of Eastleigh and Dubai don’t make the necessary first move. Somali Folks should develop their regions, only then will you see moves in the right direction. Somalia has not had a strong central Government for over a decade, we cannot expect the poor sole who leads it to make miracles.

OZ - Gyan is not going to do anything the guy has one of the worst turnover ratios, he make Adebayour look like Batistuta, I suggest he takes up his real passion and become a hip hop artist (African Girls track apparently is a big hit in West Africa). OZ - Chelsea looks strong this season, however those old legs won’t last a whole season and without the complete midfielder (Essien) they are not the same team. Wednesday was the first full match I watched and I was truly impressed by The Polish Defender and the Moroccan lad up front (He said Christophe Dugarry taught him how to shield the ball and wait for support).

I concur LOZ, this term the Gunners look well equipped, they are more mature have a plan B with Chammakh, the defence looks rock solid, the goalie is decent. It is a nightmare living close to the Emirates stadium you know about the goals before it comes on tv. PS – I have been informed that there is another person in our midst passing himself of as Thierry I urge the brother to change his name. Some suggestions • Patrick Vieira • Alisher Usmanov • Ian Wright • Wenger • Peter Hill-Wood

So far so good, I’m not feeling the hunger, Juxa - see you at taraweex I'm part of the Finsbury park masjid congregation. Serenity - If you are at the Wharf on Fridays Jummah will be held at East Wintergarden by the Northern Trust Building (City Muslims are planning to hold inter-firm Jumma's)

Ramadan Kareem, may we all benefit from this blessed month.

Maaddeey its called lads banter, do come along saxiib we much more diplomatic in our real personas.

^^ Ngonge that’s the problem with Al Shabaab and their supporters we don’t know who they are. I wouldn’t be surprised if he said he wasn’t turning up yet was sitting in the table next to us with his tusbax By the way Last night I went to a Journalist event on Somalia, The TFG Information Minister was present, the man Spoke beautifully, every question that was asked he answered eloquently yet finished with his now classic three points Al Shabaab threat, more troops and more funds . On top of that he managed to slip his personal email to a soler

I booked a table see you there gents.

Classic these African summits are more entertaining than African nations cup

AU debates action against terror threat amid split on Bashir African leaders met behind closed doors to discuss boosting the African Union’s force in Somalia following a plea by Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni to “sweep the terrorists” off the continent. Meanwhile, Zambian President Rupiah Banda said Zambia will not send peacekeepers to Somalia. Asked whether Zambia will send troops to Somalia, President Banda, who attended the opening session of the AU heads of state and government summit in Uganda yesterday, told journalists in Lusaka that the southern African country was not in the position to deploy troops to Somalia at the moment. “No! Certainly not! We haven’t got the facilities. We are struggling to improve the conditions of our army here. Sending them there is a big assignment which perhaps with our commitment of development at home, it will be difficult,” President Banda said. The Zambian leader condemned the terrorist bombings in Kampala that killed at least 74 people a fortnight ago. It is very important to stand by each other when there are such problems, he said. “Naturally, I think we should all be concerned when such things are happening. It’s not a good thing,” said President Banda. The AU heads of state meeting in Uganda came two weeks after Somalia’s Al Qaeda-linked Shabaab claimed suicide bombings that killed 76 in Kampala and as the North African arm of the terror network executed a French hostage in Mali. More than 30 heads of state from the AU’s 53 members gathered amid unprecedented security in the Ugandan capital, with the growing regional impact of the Somali chaos topping the agenda. The AU summit observed two minutes of silence for the victims of the attacks two weeks ago. Mr Museveni said many of those behind the Kampala attacks have been arrested and “interrogations have yielded very good information.” The two bombings were meant to bully Uganda into pulling out of the AU mission in Somalia (AMISOM), the last thing standing between the Shabab and total power. Uganda reacted by saying it could send 2,000 more troops and urged more decisive international support, while the embattled Somali government argued the attacks were evidence Somalia required the world’s attention. AU Commission chief Jean Ping said on Friday Guinea was ready to send troops to Somalia and the force could soon surpass its intended strength of 8,000. According to diplomats, Angola, Mozambique and South Africa may also pledge troops to Amisom, whose current deployment consists of just over 6,000 Ugandans and Burundians. Mr Ping also reiterated that the African Union was seeking a tougher mandate for Amisom under the United Nations Charter’s chapter seven, allowing it to take more aggressive action. “If this request is answered positively, our troops will attack,” he said. The summit’s key theme of maternal and child health seemed to have been overshadowed by the focus on terrorism, upsetting aid groups. “Obviously the bombings were a tragedy. Nobody disputes that,” said Tanya Weinberg of the humanitarian agency Save the Children. “But the ultimate tragedy is losing a child or losing the maternal head of a household. And that is happening every day on this continent.” Meanwhile, African countries are divided about whether they should arrest Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir on suspicion of genocide, diplomats at the summit say. Bashir was indicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) for war crimes in Darfur last year. This month the court added genocide to the charges, accusing him of orchestrating murders, rapes, and torture in the troubled western region.

Just look at the picture, the man is so cool he could make the Saudi desert freeze.

MashALLah amazing pictures congrats folks

Nuune if support means cheering, and getting islaamo to sing at visits to Somali populated cities in the diaspora then the man had overwhelming support. But the support I speak of is the more tangible and it comes in two M’s, Men and Money. I will be the first to admit that I haven’t sent a penny to his government nor went to aid him in his political or military battles. His government has been unable to pay it's soldiers and we sit and talk about failure. The man is no saint and has made several errors. However only few men can succeed in the current Somali climate. The author in a interesting book I'm reading at the moment made an interesting comment. "Why should African leaders be accountable to their people, when the people dont pay taxes",. Lool no internet usage at home sxb that’s how to live a blissful life.

One of the rare occasions I and Naxar Nugaaleed agree. Sh Sharif failure is a collective failure. A man can only work with what he has at his disposal. Even before his inauguration he was on the path of doom. The man received empty support from the masses and empty support from the international community. One faction cheers for him hoping he will succeed without giving money and boots, another faction sits back hoping his tenure is a failure so they can sit on the ever rotating golden chair and the last and worst group are hell bound in killing his government for a bliss full hereafter. No one realises that if he fails some other poor sole will have to pick up the mantle and face the same predicament. Why not assist the man so that when it is your turn you will have a easier path. The president is not free of criticism creativity in the art of war is not his forte. However this is Somalia’s Failure. http://www.somaliaonline.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/9/21174