Originally posted by GoldCoast: In case I've failed to note the sarcasm here, that might be one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read on this website. You sure about that? There have been some pretty wild things stated on SOL. Glad to see I qualify for that award saaxib. The roots of neo-colonialism stretch back to African's level of maturity??? Really? Even Rudyard Kipling would disagree with your assessment. Stop making blanket generalizations with zero basis. So rampant exploitation of African natural resources to this day, structural adjustments programs which curb the development of African industry, and the continued support of African dictators continent wide in exchange for stable financial practices are all to be discounted, and instead we should focus on the level of African intellect and maturity? Incredible. It's funny - this tendency of [some] Africans to blame others for their problems. Since the 60s when most African countries gained independance - things have regressed instead of getting better. At the same time - other previously colonized countries were able to advance - ie Southeast Asia, the Middle East etc. Why is black Africa different? Is Africa the only place where resource exploitation or IMF/WB structural programs have occurred? Is it the only place where dictators have been supported in exchange for stability? Even if you have dictators does that preclude economic and social development? The Gulf countries are all ruled by US backed dictators but they have managed to do something with their countries. On the other hand - you have a Mobutu Sese Seko - who squirrled away billions in foreign bank accounts - while his country barely had a road network. That is typical of the African record. Neither mature nor grownup. I think it's better to examine issues rather than getting all prickly and defensive when Africans are rightly criticized for the failings of their respective countries.

^This sort of thing is too sophisticated for the children of Dixon Re-freshers Marx? Haha. Make sure you wear those sunglasses saaxib.

Koonfurians!

^So? Is everything perfect anywhere for new immigrants? There is a reason this is one of the top countries in the world for quality of life. I think that is where the focus should be rather than the handful of shortcomings. MMA - ok - mock away. Alive - somewhat

^They're saying the only reason she has been able to rise so far is because she's in cahoots with local powerbrokers. Some sort of back scratching going on. But it's Africa - you can't walk down the street without seeing some corruption of some sort.

It's Moghe rather than Morghe. Background Born 46 years ago in Bungoma in Western Kenya, Amina went to school in the small town where her mother Sarah Hersi Ali is still a prominent businesswoman. But what really motivates this single mother of three? After the demise of her father, Amina admits that she and her sister were hurried into accounting school by their mother with the sole purpose of introducing them early into business. “ In my teenage life, my sister and I were mostly helping our mother in her various businesses and we therefore did not see much of it.” However, Amina does not regret this early introduction into the business world. Without a doubt her mother is her mentor and she also remembers the sound advice of her uncle Adam Hersi Ali, a Financial Secretary at treasury in Kenya’s Ministry of Finance. “I can describe myself as self-motivated with a passion for what I do,” she says with confidence. http://www.monitor.c o.ug/artman/publish/ full_woman/Empowerin g_staff_is_her_secre t_80608.shtml

Congratulations Val. Trust Ngonge to fashion a story in which he figures prominently rather than the person it is supposed to be about.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiy aar: Fourthly, it is "your destroyed country Soomaaliya" that brought you on here directly or indirectly, as a welcomed refugee. If it wasn't of Soomaaliya's civil war, you might not even have lived on here without any hassle as you do now comfortably. Might have been called another 'illegal alien' by those you are ironically sounding like now. Thank Soomaaliya, "your destroyed country" for that itself, the least you can thank for it. LOL. I see. We are supposed to be grateful TO Somalia for having destroyed itself which led to some foreigners feeling sorry for us and letting us in their country. Major brain freeze there MMA. I'm grateful to God but I'm also grateful to Canada and Canadians who have set up a well functioning country and who have been kind enough to let disadvantaged people in.

^I didn't know there was anything particularly objectionable about hating someone even for purely frivolous reasons. Ultimately results matter - neither has acheived anything. And sadly Shariif seems constantly behind the ball.

^It would be nice if Africans started acting like grownups - but they don't which is what leads to the neo-colonialism. One of the appeals of Angola's job market is high salaries. For many of Mr. da Costa's clients in Angola, a starting salary for an entry-level position in banking or civil engineering is between $2,000 and $5,000 a month. By comparison, a high starting rate in Portugal for a similar job is €1,000 a month. Mr. Da Rocha was one of several dozen men from the small town who went off to Angola when local rock-quarry jobs began to dry up. Ms. Silva said her husband tried working in Switzerland, but "he didn't earn enough and he missed us." Now, Mr. Da Rocha earns €2,000 a month working in a mine in Tulunga. There, he lives in a camp with other Portuguese and Angolan workers. He plans to return home in late September. Sad - they're giving them high salaries in a country where the cost of living is dirt cheap and the governments are unable to train people to quarry rocks let alone anything more advanced. Aficans are the root of their own problems.

Wiilkaan baas iyo odaygaan carbeed yaa uu tarxiilaa Qardho iyo Burco respectively! Then we wouldn't get all this blather.

Calool. Yum!

Happy Eid

^LOL

^Facts are usually statements(backed up with sources) not emotional tirades. From Sovereign to Subject: The Elimination of the North-Eastern Sultanates The dawn of fascism in the early 1920s heralded a change of strategy for Italy as the north-eastern sultanates were soon to be forced within the boundaries of La Grande Somalia according to the plan of fascist Italy. With the arrival of Governor Cesare Maria De Vecchi on 15 December 1923 things began to change for that part of Somaliland. Italy had access to these parts under the successive protection treaties, but not direct rule. The fascist government had direct rule only over the Benaadir territory. Given the defeat of the Daraawiish movement in the early 1920s and the rise of fascism in Europe, on 10 July 1925 Benito Mussolini gave the green light to De Vecchi to start the takeover of the north-eastern sultanates. Everything was to be changed and the treaties abrogated. By the end of the 1927 the Italians had nearly taken control of the sultanate. Defeated and humiliated, Hersi Boqor and his top staff were forced to retreat to Ethiopia in order to rebuild the forces. However, they had an epidemic of cholera which frustrated all attempts to recover his force. After two years of devastating war in which thousands of civilians died and the entire economy of the sultanate was ruined, razing all coastal towns and villages, the Italian colonial administration could boast that it had broken the M********n resistance and put an end to an era in Somaliland. Boqor Osman fled to the British Somaliland, but was handed back to the Italians. In November the formal act of surrender took place in Hurdia, and Boqor Osman dramatically consigned his sword to Governor De Vecchi. Later Boqor Osman was exiled to Muqdisho. With the elimination of the north-eastern sultanates and the breaking of the Benaadir resistance, from this period henceforth, Italian Somaliland was to become a reality. The partition of Somaliland was already shaping during this period and the fate of the Somalis was at the mercy of the colonial powers. http://www.somaliawa tch.org/archivefeb01 /010411601.htm

Interesting.

This is good news for folks who want to buy there. But there is a very real credit crunch in the UAE. If you want to get a mortgage, conventional or Islamic, you have to jump through quite a lot of hoops. And the Loan to Value ratios are as low as 60% for some lenders. Imagine having to come up with a $160,000 downpayment for a $400,000 apartment. Even in credit crunched USA - you can still get 80% financing rather routinely. The other thing is the interest rate paid on the mortgages is extremely high when you consider the Dirham is directly linked to the US Dollar. HSBC in the emirates is charging 8.5% per annum while in the States you can get a mortgage for 4-5%. There is a very real credit crunch going on and/or these banks are trying to fleece folks. The other thing I noticed is that posted prices and actual prices paid have little correlation. So anyone looking on the web or newspapers as a guide to prices doesn't get the full picture. And off-plan properties have the usual problems of potential ripoff and poor build quality. All in all - it is a good time to buy - but you have to navigate carefully.

^War Shiicaa manihin. Sunni Ashura is a month later. Islam illiterate!

Talk about rock bottom standards. Allow uu sahal Somaali.

^We're human beimgs - we can more readily see fault in someone else than in ourselves. As long as it isn't invalid - it's alright.

He's a moron for exposing how he got played. Now how is he gonna find another woman - who wants a nac*as? Gosh the SOL censors have run amok - nac*as is a censored word now too. What petty mind thought that up :confused:

^What is your point? Doing ok FB - you? We like going in circles here - nomads migrate back and forth no.

Is everyone here high on crack? Let's see, on his watch the following happened: 1- Inflation skyrocketed due to the mass printing of money 2- Piracy has increased to rampant levels 3- Security has deteriorated to alarming levels - because of non payment of police and soldiers 4- Las Anod is held hostage by a petty thug 5- Corruption and kickbacks have increased enormously - with Cade making a gratis 3 million plus dollar contribution to the UAE property sector Seriously. What the! He is to be congratulated for leaving now? What the!

^His point is that a sad sate of affairs doesn't preclude any Somali from commenting on, criticizing or hating on Arabs should they wish. It's not a particularly shocking point of view. :confused:

^Is ma dhaamaan runti.