Al Shabab and various thugs keep assassinating folks right and left in Somalia. Could not one of them get rid of this parasite??? Or is that no one dares to attack the puppet master/pay master?

<cite> @Saalax said:</cite> It has everything to do with him because his administration failed to create jobs for the youth.It is not logical to expect private business men to do everything for Somaliland. Every year hundreds of Somalilanders graduate from local universities, however there is no job market for them, it is kinda useless. <cite> @xabad said:</cite> it isn't about Siilanyo kulaha! Leaders are supposed to create opportunities for their citizens, Einstein. SL needs a massive birth control plan, it has a fiendish youth bulge. Wallahi, the demographic catastrophes awaiting Somalia are just too dire and frightening to contemplate. The famines of the early 90's will be child's play compared to what awaits this improvident people. This is crap. Both responses. Before Siilanyo - it was not as if SL was creating thousands of jobs and youth were not going to sea. Don't let opposition to Siilanyo make you see him as the root of all the problems there. He clearly is not. Governments don't create jobs unless it is in the public sector and that is funded by taxpayers. Already tax revenues are not sufficient for the limited public services in SL so there is no scope for government jobs. Government can only create conditions that encourage private investment and entrepreneurship which creates jobs. Then private individuals have to play their part and not run away to sea at a cost of thousands of dollars that could have been invested in the country. Europeans and others built up their own country and Somalis keep running from theirs and feel entitled to jobs and benefits overseas.

Good story. This part shows western attitudes toward Muslim women are still rooted in negative stereotypes and biases. Why is it a paradox that a woman is covered and is a business person too? The mall is the scene of a rich paradox in Somali culture. The women who run the shops cover their heads, and many of them believe it is a man’s responsibility to pay bills for the family. Yet they are aggressive businesspeople, cherish financial independence and preside over a microeconomy at the core of the Twin Cities’ Somali community.

This isn't about Siilanyo. It's about the lack of opportunity in SL and a mistaken sense of what is available in the west. When citizens don't invest in their own country and don't demand accountability from leaders - this is what happens.

The shared milk bowl and walking under the white sheet - is that really part of Somali tradition? I did not know that.

Poor Xabad is confused. This is not about clan territory. I don't think anyone actually thinks of Mogadishu as anything but a clan territory. It is about his house which he owns. If he wants to stay there or sell it - it is upto him. But daylight robbery can't be tolerated or accepted. This incident just proves it is time to reconsider Mogadishu being the capital of this country.

<cite> @Dhagax-Tuur said:</cite> MMA, when it comes to somali psyche, you are asking the impossible, really, namely to see things or describe them objectively. We all know nothing is perfect, far from it, but the reality is, early days of the 'dawladii kacaanku' was what one could describe as the 'best' in the recent somali history in progressiveness and effort to unite Somalis on the basis of their ability rather than which tribe they belong to. Things have definitely taken a turn for the worse in later years. Allow sahal amuur. It's like saying Mussolini was good at the beginning - he made the trains run on time. All fine and good. But what happened afterwards supersedes and negates all that. The same with the Kacaanka. Somalia's current state is the direct offspring of Jalle Siyaad. But what can you do with Somalis? In the face of facts - they retreat to meaningless tut-tutting.

^You keep dodging reality. Or perhaps you refuse to wake up from your daydream. As to the picture - what it shows is a dictator and his lackeys. Their facade appears solid and united but the whole foundation was rotten to the core soon to crumble into history.

^And where will they get shaqo from if the entire population wants to leave the country and no one wants to build it? Jobs are created by people investing and producing. But in Somalia - business people would rather put money into Nairobi and Dubai and the average folk would rather die en route to another country that was actually built up by its citizens rather than build his own. Go figure.

Rose tinted glasses. The rampant clanism, corruption and pitting Somali against Somali to stay in power of the kacaanka laid the foundation for the chaos and collapse that followed. Mohamed Siyaad sowed division and hatred and reaped the 'rewards' in his lifetime.

I saw much the same in Puntland. It's weird how people pay taxes and demand zero accountability. If people were organized along common interests rather than being used as tools by their clan qabqable - things would not be like this.

Actually I'd like to see them all pull out including the everpresent Ethiopians. Maybe then the federal government will have its feet held to the fire. Either fight al-Shabaab properly or risk getting killed.

^No consideration given to people or adequate drainage. It seems most Somali cities have no areas that can be properly termed first class in design or amenities. Most African countries have at least one section of major cities that is posh and well maintained and designed. Sadly in Somalia there is a serious lack in building skills.

Syrians, Afghans, Eritreans and West/Central Africans. A whole bunch of other people are ahead of us now. It's nice not to be number one in all negative stories. The other issue I saw first hand in Somalia is how young people recruit others through FB with false images of life in Europe. Europe is struggling - there isn't any capacity to accept hundreds of thousands. At some point - their doors will be closed and what are these folks going to do then.

^No - two in Alberta and two in Toronto. Culling of the qashin. What gets me is when family members get on tv and say how their kid who is a known criminal was a good boy and he had nothing to do with crime. Somalis and indha-adayg.

^Hold on. Somalia would like to clarify and reiterate its commitment to the legal case and proceedings at the International Court of Justice in The Hague within the framework of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). If The Somali government is committed to the legal case that is pending then it cannot pledge/commit to an out of court settlement with Kenya. It is either/or. This statement says that dialogue will continue with Kenya but that the court process continues. If that is indeed the case - then it is good. It is alright to hold out an olive branch to Kenya as long as the case is officially in the court.

^How can the Kenyan Foreign Minister lie about the Somali position without some formal and public complaint from the Somali government? I suspect there is some xeer hosaad going on and the FG can't be seen to be doing different in public. There has to be a reason that Fawzia felt confident enough to go before her parliament and say this.

^Somalis and their biases. When the Cadaado guys put into their constitution that their border extends all the way to Nugaal despite the President of the Federal Republic signing an agreement to the contrary with Puntland - you don't have to wonder who started this whole business. At least Gaas and his admin didn't put in their constitution their border extends to Hobyo and Harardheere. It is time that Cadaado guys get on the right side of history. Since 1991 - there has been mistake after mistake that cost them and the country dear. It's time to grow up and act responsibly - finally.

<cite> @Safferz said:</cite> Somalis always declare they're the first to do something. I'm sure there are half-Somali Chinese citizens out there, given so many Somalis have gone to China for school, training, etc since the 60s. Yes exactly. I'll say this though. I've never seen anything like your twitter/FB/Web campaign(or should I say onslaught:) against SJAS. I think you can legitimately claim you're the first Somali to do that type of thing.

Two days before the nation's birthday and this needless retreat. It is not a coincidence that the Prime Minister who presided over the signing away of the seas the first time is the same one again. Clearly not without the full backing of the President but Cumar Cabdirashid is quite frankly a sh*t. Not a big outcry this time around though. I've barely heard anyone saying anything.

Kenya, Somalia in talks to end border row out of UN court EDWIN MUTAI, emutai@ke.nationmedia.com Posted Monday, June 29 2015 at 20:19 Kenya and Somalia are seeking an out-of-court settlement over the long-running border dispute linked to lucrative oil and gas reserves in the Indian Ocean. Foreign Affairs secretary Amina Mohammed told Parliament that Somalia had agreed to pursue arbitration outside the United Nation’s highest court which was preparing to start hearing the suit. Somalia had asked the International Court of Justice in The Hague to determine the maritime boundary between the two neighbours which disagree on the right to explore and collect revenue from oil discoveries. “We have received a pledge from the Federal Government of Somalia indicating readiness to withdraw a case it filed in New York against us and pull out of the case for us to resolve maritime boundary issues,” said Ms Mohammed. Somalia had also filed a formal claim for a bigger chunk of the continental shelf at the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) based in New York. Somalia wants the maritime border to continue along the line of the land border, to the southeast diagonally and says a horizontal border would be unfair. Kenya, however, wants the sea border to go in a straight line east, giving it more sea territory. READ: Somalia takes Kenya to UN court in oil rights row If it goes the Somalia way, Kenya will be left with a small triangle in the Indian Ocean for mineral rights, losing at least seven oil blocks it has offered explorers. The dispute has been running for years, keeping investors away because of lack of legal clarity over who owns potential offshore oil and gas reserves. Kenya recently identified eight new offshore exploration blocks available for licensing, and all but one of them are located in the contested area. Somalia has said the dispute risks deterring multinational oil companies from exploring for oil and gas offshore East Africa. An agreement reached and deposited with the Law of the Sea Commission in New York in 2011 following similar diplomatic negotiations was scuttled by Somalia’s parliament, setting the stage for the suit at the UN’s highest judicial body. The agreement between Kenya and Somalia stated that the border would run east along the line of latitude, but Mogadishu, which has lacked an effective central government since 1991, rejected the agreement in parliament. In 2012, Somalia accused Kenya of awarding offshore oil and gas exploration blocks illegally to multinationals Total and Eni. Kenya rejected the accusation. http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Kenya--Somalia-in-talks-to-end-border-row-out-of-UN-court/-/539546/2769464/-/k769ojz/-/index.html

The delegate (Somali) stated that during the time of the vote, the government was being formed in Somalia (cabinet being chosen). He stated that he asked for the capital’s permission to vote for the resolution, namely the foreign minister, but that he didn’t hear back from them until the vote was over. As such, he was forced to abstain for fear of his decision being contrary to what the new government wanted. Boy - I'm surprised by this delegate's professionalism. I wasn't expecting that he would take his job as seriously as that given the rampant dysfunction and incompetence. Kudos to him.

^That phrase seems to be your go to one Interesting story. I find it fascinating he said he believes he is the first one. His story is unusual enough that it wasn't necessary to add a tidbit that can't be verified or refuted. Somalis and the trailblazer mentality.

When it rains, it pours. This is funny: He was Britain’s athlete of the games, a long-distance runner capable of outlasting the East Africans

^All the same - let's not turn these guys into national heroes. When they hijack pleasure yachts and transiting oil tankers - it is all about pillage not protecting national resources.