And you would've thought this selection would have been something both sides would agree on.

^The leaking and speculation is good for Somalis then? As a group - rampant clannish maxa-la-yiri and saas baa la dhahay is one big reason for the enmity between Somalis. Better to release the list as it is rather than leaving it to media outlets each with their own agenda. And releasing the list or not has no impact on the threats or insults.

Is there an updated list? Why doesn't the electoral commission itself releast the list officially - and function as a transparent body?

I'd rather hope Amisom observed keeping their pants fully zipped up for the duration of their stay in Somalia.

He needs 5 bullets to the head. Ngonge - you trespass on the word xamasaad when you describe what this person's advocating for as such. This is not overzealousness - this is pure and absolute trashing of all that Islam stands for.

Khadafi;857273 wrote: we can not eat Carnivals lol - yes i agree.

Not sure what's different about this thread to all the others that tout a candidate. Odd it should attract is qabsi. Somalis!

I don't think Somalis have an issue with asserting themselves. It's the organization part that is totally lacking. If they were organized and united no one would mess with them in the first place.

This is disgusting - it doesn't matter if it is ruled halaal. Why don't Somalis eat squid and mussels then? Waxaa yaab - meeshi 'barwaqada' ahayd oo Kismayo - hadii heerkaan lagaray - guess have to reassess this so called 'barwaqo'.

Interesting. As a foreigner this Jonathan individual will find it extremely hard to know who to befriend and who to trust. I'm not surprised by this. What I do dislike is this habit of stirring up clannis(?) trouble because 2 ppl have a conflict. Ultimately a place has to have laws and courts that resolve problems and rules should be clear and not subject to reer hebel pressure or whims. It's the task of the Somaliland government to ensure this is the case particularly with a high profile success story like this one.

Alpha Blondy;856248 wrote: ^ token somalis who i feel do not represent the common somali on the streets of the uk. we'll need to encourage more people to achieve higher in schools, employment and being law-abiding citizens. otherwise we'll become like the African-Caribbean and look to sports, music and entertainment as sources of successes. Blondy making sense. What do you know. You gotta be grateful for the lucid moments I guess.

^Xasid. They have a better claim to asylum than most who came through forgery and lies. At least their stories are true. I think they should get asylum just on the basis of Mo Farah winning gold for the UK. Yo Mo - support your homies!

^MMA - I don't think you know what you're saying. There are about 300,000 Rohingya refugees in Bangladesh - most of them have been there for decades and have no wish to go back to their homeland. There are several tens of thousands of others in southeast Asia. But there remains 800,000 still in Myanmar. If Muslim countries re-settle the long term refugees in Bangladesh or those in Southeast Asia - who at this point have no legal right to school or work and suffer from discrimination and harrasment - you're telling me no - we should leave these ppl in this horrible and hopeless situation - because doing better would mean more leave their country. This is really shabby logic. It's no different than saying Somali migrants or asylum seekers should be mistreated and denied rights wherever they go - because we don't want all of them leaving their country and depopulating it. As a refugee coming from a nation of refugees - it's appalling that you would espouse this view. To be humanitarian or decent is not and cannot be something contigent on someone's elses actions. Everyone knows what the Islamically correct thing to do in this situation - and it doesn't mean that the international community doesn't press Myanmar to stop killng and cleansing these ppl from their legitimate homeland. But we don't control the Myanmar govt and its actions - we only control our own. So the Turkish govt should put up or shut. @Blackflash - that is a myth. Most countries that resettle refugees have a definitive process. Longterm registered UNHCR refugees who have little chance of returning to their homelands are put forward by the UNHCR for resettlement and countries choose based on their criteria whom they want to resettle. Turkey could do the very same thing if it chooses while retaining control of its borders. Heck even Chile is doing it - http://www.irinnews.org/Report/77645/IRAQ-SYRIA-Some-40-stranded-Palestinian-refugees-resettled-in-Chile [/ur]

^lol. It works both ways - they can't watch CTV programming for the same show.

This forum is not dhagacas incorporated barring a few misguided souls. Please provide either a Somali or English translation.

AUN Samia. But at least Zamzam can claim asylum - she doesn't have to get on a boat.

Even in Muslim majority Malaysia these ppl can't get decent humanitarian and/or Islamic treatment. Why are we surprised by the actions of the Burmese? ---- Rohingya Muslims want to call Malaysia home Sharifah binti Hussein is a bubbly 17-year-old who loves school. Her classroom at the Harvest Centre in Kuala Lumpur is stuffy, even with the windows open and ceiling fans on full blast. Eighteen of her classmates are huddled around clusters of desks. This may look like a regular class, but all the children are refugees, mainly from Burma. They are not allowed to attend government schools, access health care or even work when they graduate. Their grim prospects make today's class lesson seem futile - learning Malay, the national language of Malaysia. Yet Sharifah counts this as her favourite subject. "If I can, I would like to stay in this country forever, so it's important for me to learn Malay," she says in broken English. Tough childhood Sharifah's love for Malaysia comes in part from a tough childhood in Burma. Although she was born there, she has never been issued a birth certificate. She is part of the stateless Rohingya Muslim minority. International rights groups describe their plight as one of the world's most enduring refugee crises. The Burmese government says the Rohingyas are relatively recent migrants from what is now known as Bangladesh. Recent unrest in Burma's Rakhine state has focused attention on the Rohingyas' situation. Sharifah's father says he was harassed by the Buddhist military government and fled to Malaysia in 1994. The rest of the family tried to join him a few years later. It took two attempts before they could flee. Sharifah herself travelled alone for a month. "We would sleep in abandoned buildings," she says. "It was very scary at night. One night, we stayed in the city, one night in the jungle." When she arrived in Malaysia her father could not even recognise her. "When he left me, I was fat. I had lighter skin. I was beautiful. He said I was cute," she says. "But now I looked like a boy because my hair was short. I was dark-skinned. I was thin and my father didn't recognise me." Reunited with her family, Sharifah said she felt free for the first time. But life is not much easier in Malaysia. The country is not a signatory of the 1951 United Nations Convention on Refugees, so asylum seekers are treated like illegal migrants and are vulnerable to detention. Despite this, Rohingya Muslims continue to arrive in Malaysia. They now make up the second largest refugee group in this Muslim-majority country, with 22,800 registering with the UN by the end of April. Hard life Sharifah had a tough time adjusting to Malaysia. She attended a regular school here, but no one wanted to talk to her because she was a refugee, she says. "They accused me of coming to Malaysia to take away resources from them, taunting me for having darker skin," she says. Her life improved after she switched to a school for refugees at the Harvest Centre. She now has friends, is earning top grades and dreams of working at the UN to help refugees. "I pray to my god, my Allah, that I can stay in Malaysia forever," she says. "I don't want to go to other countries where it is not a Muslim place." Her father, Hussein, 45, is not so optimistic, however. He struggles to feed his family. He lives in constant fear of the police. Although he holds a refugee card from the UN, it is not a legal document, so immigration officials can still detain him. Hopes for change International rights groups say arbitrary detentions of refugees and extortion by Malaysian immigration officials are common. But a 2011 report by the UN refugee agency, UNHCR, noted that there have been "significant achievements" by the Malaysian government to reduce the number of arrests of refugees last year. Still, Mr Hussein does not have an alternative. It has been 18 years since he arrived in Malaysia, but the UN has not been able to relocate them to another country. The recent violence in Burma's Rakhine state makes it even more unlikely that they can return. Clashes between Buddhists and Muslims have prompted the Burmese government to declare a state of emergency in the area. Hundreds of Rohingya refugees showed up at the US embassy in Kuala Lumpur last Tuesday, calling for international intervention. "We had hoped that opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi would change the situation in Burma," Zafar Ahmead Mohd Abdul Ghani, from the Myanmar Ethnic Rohingya Human Rights Organization Malaysia, said at the rally. "But now, our hopes for her have been banished. We are very scared to go back home." Meanwhile, Sharifah tries hard to fit in in Malaysia. She now prefers to speak to her father in Malay rather than in the Rohingya language. She has adopted many Malaysian habits, ending her sentences with the word "lah", and wearing skinny jeans and colourful hijabs like young Malay teens. However, she still feels unwelcome in the country. Sharifah remains hopeful, though. "I believe that Malaysia will recognise refugees," she says. "I don't know why in my heart I believe in this, but I do." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18421085

^No - the Rohingya who have been in camps in Bangladesh for decades should be resettled - at least some. What you are saying is equivalent to Canada saying I don't want to resettle Somalis from Dadaab because that will mean it empties out Somalia or that it doesn't resolve the situation in Somalia. You can do both - but people who are long term refugees who are unable to go back to their homelands should be resettled if one is a humanitarian or professes to be a Muslim.

Where's the link for this? Good for them for highlighting this issue. But I always wonder about Turkey and it's refugee/immigration policy. It's a big country of 80 million that is doing well economically - but it restricts migration and has no refugee resettlement program. If you really care about the plight of these Rohingya Turkey - institute a refugee resettlement program and help these poor folks start a new life in your country. I don't think there is a single Muslim country that has such a program like Canada, USA, Australia etc.

Dad majiro. That's why I think Somalia needs large scale immigration from folks who want to work/build the country and have capital. When Somalis see what ajnabi are able to do in their backyard - their natural jealousy will flare up and they will stop putting endless amounts of money and effort into building Isli and Dubai. I don't understand the importation of fish though - is that the usual diaspora exaggeration or was it that fish was unavailable because of rough seas or another logical reason.

I was there in May. The Saudi government needs to do a lot of work in the area surrounding Haram. They've done quite a bit of work within the Haram itself. There are no pedestrian paths or bridges to get to the Haram from the surrounding hotels - it's a chaotic mass of cars and buses that have no respect for pedestrians. It's also dirty, cramped and lacking in Haji friendly signs and postings. With all the billions in oil money - and the fact that this holy place is the face of Saudi Arabia and the Muslim world you would think they would have done a better job than they have. They have bling bling malls but can't make this area be good.

^Well - he's not gonna serve bangers and mash now will he? Nice - though his margins must be huge - 10 bucks a plate in a place like Mog where everything is fairly cheap. I guess he will chalk it up to hazard pay.

The cop is the douchebag qashin. I don't know what the kid was doing driving off in that car - maybe it was a mistake or maybe he's a moron. But the cop's reaction was completely out of line. Why is it we let the folks responsible for peace and safety in the community get away with profanity, heavy handedness and total and utter disrespect of members of society? What a waste. As if a cop's foot is holy territory and not to be infringed upon in any way. Get over it. If you're going to arrest someone - do it in a dignified way and don't make it a long winded circus that takes away from tackling real crime.

Malika totally swahilified - cassava, coconut and fish! Subxanallah - your ancestors must be rolling over in their grave.

^The problem is that when you don't grow up in the home culture and haven't been educated in the literature you miss a lot. Bob is pretty damn impressive - his pronounciation is a bit off at times. I always thought af Somali was very difficult to learn but maybe not so much. This guy can hold a conversation after 3 months using only a dictionary: " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>