Aaliyyah;861832 wrote: lol@ no one will lose a sweat if abdiwali loses. Are you sure about that? That is highly unlikely but even if that was the case you seem to have lost plenty of sweat over Ali Khalif. I guess now that mango is to celebrate him losing the speaker of parliament. Alle cuqdad badana inanku. But, have you ever thought the likelihood of Khaatumite being a PM if Shiekh Sharif wins? who knows that could even be Abdikarim or even Ali Khalif (never mind ma rabo in aan ka nixiyo enjoy your mango lol)..It can also be a man from reer waqooyi galbeed. Everything is a possibility. We will see though for now enjoy your mango sifiican u raxeeso walaalo.that victory might be short lived Those who were saying Galeyr won't win were proved right. Whether this victory is short lived will be seen - but why make further insinuations at this point. Hopefully - the speaker will do a good job.

Mr Jama was convicted of raping a 40-year-old woman at a Melbourne nightclub in 2008 despite having an alibi and no witnesses to the alleged crime. Even the woman couldn't place Mr Jama at the scene because she was unconscious during the alleged encounter. An inquiry held after Mr Jama was jailed found the case should have never gone to court and a crime probably didn't even occur. It's amazing that police and prosecution are able to get away with this for a measly half mill.

^Dadka xanuun ku sheega dad kale baa baris u bahaan. WIth you I'd say - skip the examination and head straight for the medicine cabinet if you can find a cure.

^Sadly those who loose the whole plot are still allowed in here like you.

^Put up or shut up buddy - snide comments won't get anywhere.

^I'm talking in general terms about both camps not specifically you. But this is not the first time you've put on your own spin on things

When you insist you know what the outcome will be and that your candidate will win and paint the other side as clanists and haters - you should hide if defeated but then Somalis have no shame as the last 20+ years have shown.

Lol at the chest thumping and hyperventilation. One or the other group may have to hide come Sunday's results.

^None of these folks above has the stature of Farmaajo in Somalia and the world at large. It is odd he wasn't picked even if running for presidency doesn't require being an MP. Clearly there isn't enough regard.

When Djiboutians stop leaving Djibouti and claiming they're from Somalia - then this development will seem to be having an effect.

Chimera;859090 wrote: However if this Egyptian organisation were to be dislodged through an illegal invasion forcing their leaders to resort to more draconian and extreme methods to gain and maintain power, would that render their previous history of providing stability and having a national agenda as irrelevant? Gaining and maintaing power at what expense - massacres, mayhem, mass displacement, suicide bombings, beheadings, fighting a US backed and funded army in your already ruined capital? What sort of organization are you and what sort of leadership do you have that makes that sort of sacrifice to 'gain and maintain power'? Can you claim moral superiority, Islamic character, justice and peace, working of the interest of the people etc.? Come on. I

^I think sometimes people have a choice - they just choose not to exercise it. You can't know why something happens in a particular case not being intimately familiar with it. As to courage - yes - I think sometimes there is a lack of courage. I don't dismiss it but it could also be other things.

Faroole sure does get a lot of attention. His every move and half baked utterance is parsed over and over. When he goes not sure how writers and satirists will occupy themselves.

^With all due respect to a valued poster - your arguments are hogwash. One's Islamic character and wish to do good for one's people doesn't change regardless of circumstances ie Ethiopian invasion. And as someone mentioned - ICU staged the first suicide bombing in Somali history. If that doesn't condemn them - nothing will.

Shinbir Majabe;859076 wrote: Yusuf Siad Inda'ade - Chief of Security of the Islamic This fellow personifies the goodness and righteousness of the ICU - ie 'a popular grassroots movement providing stability, opening various derelict economic outlets such as the seaports, airports and the destruction of the bloodsucking warlords.'

^I think you're mixing up situations where one has options and where one doesn't. A sex slave has no options - all attempts to leave will lead to harm. Our old mothers or grandmothers who were married against their will had no options - society would shun them and they would be left destitute without some man to support them. This woman had options. She could have picked up the phone to her friends in Holland and said send me some money via Dahabshiil which she could have used to leave. She has access to a foreign passport and an embassy that will help. She has access to relatives in the west who would help her leave this forced marriage if it was such etc etc. Somali society has a lot of faults and engages in many wrongs against its women. But this is not an Arab or Pakistani society that forces women to do as the families wish and death/serious harm is most definitely an option for disobiedance. I find that part of her story the hardest to believe.

Somalia;859066 wrote: ICU's most pre-eminent leaders are Al-Shabaab. Hassan Dahir Aweys - Head of Advisory Committee (Today Al-Shabaab) Fuad Shangole - Head of Education (Today Head of Puntland branch) Mukhtar Robow - Security Branch (former Emir, Spokesman, Deputy Leader of Al-Shabaab) Hassan Turki - Head of Ras Kamboni Brigade (Aligned with Al-Shabaab) Apparently the story now is that these folks were good people in 2006 and bad people now. Go figure.

Garnaqsi;858243 wrote: You have missed the point by miles and miles! Whether the Koran inspired Muslim scientists or not is altogether a different matter as to whether there is truth to these alleged scientific miracles. My point was that all these interpretations came after science, and hence are guilty of hindsight bias, and therefore one is justified in being skeptical about them. I'm not demanding for there to have been a complete and through explanation; it's just that there wasn't any in there at all, until these interpretations were devised after science. You have every right to be proud of whatever contributions Muslims have made to science, but there is nothing to be proud of giving Koranic verses a meaning that wasn't there for more than thousand years. It's just ridiculous and really morally abhorrent. You can be skeptical about whatever you want. But I don't understand 'there is nothing to be proud of giving Koranic verses a meaning that wasn't there for more than thousand years. It's just ridiculous and really morally abhorrent.' No new interpretation or meaning has been given. The Koran describes in detail certain real world phenomenon that haven't been detailed scientifically until recently. That those descriptions closely 'match' the proven science - you can call hindsight bias or dismiss. But there is no after the fact manipulation of the Koran to match scientific facts. To make that allegation is ridiculous and morally abhorrent.

Where is Farmaajo - will he get on the list?

^Relax Somalia it was rhetorical question - his claim is to be dismissed. Either fighting Al Shabab was bad in 06 and now - or it was right then and now. Can't have it both ways.

Warya Che adba assertion baa wadaa. How do we know you know Abdikarin Jama - please provide evidence. Otherwise you and the great predictor are the same.

^Presumably it wasn't in the Somali national interest to fight Al-Shabab extremists in 2006 but it is now? Good riddance. I think the state of Ethiopia will keep following his policies but he was a very savvy politician with an extremely good knowledge of Somalis - not sure the EPDRF party's bench is that deep to produce another Meles which oughta to be good for Somalis in the future.

Don't know if this is true or false. But there plenty of people Somali or otherwise who are wealthy and yet see nothing obscene about close family members living in poverty. That is a mentality I can never understand or condone.

Guzel;858015 wrote: I have not come across a case of forced marriage involving a 16 year old. They went back home, so why would the mother force her to get married? None of the dhaqan celis girls I knew were forced to get married, after a few years of living back home they chose to get married and returned back to UK with a failed marriage behind them. The hiding part is so exxagerated, Somalis are not Pakistanis, her mother is not going to harm her. I would not refer to a relative I did not know as uncle, out of respect yes, but he is actually not her uncle. Dont get me started on the hijab part, a muslim woman's story is never complete without the hijab. Agreed - the ambush part does happen. But the forced marriage strikes me as far fetched and living all that time with him and not running away earlier seems a little strange. I don't know what the truth is but other Somali woman have been known to falsify/exaggerate their stories. It isn't part of Somali culture to harm/kill wayward girls - otherwise we would see plenty of cases in the west.

So if those others aren't put forward by their elders they forfiet the chance to select the speaker and the president? Maybe they should put this as a condition - get your act together or risk not participating in the process to select the next government.