^well Kreepy - you learn something new every day. I've always wondered - how on earth one survives as an artist? Is that why they turn to drugs of all sorts - to dull the hunger pains?

Khalaf, my friend, there are innumerable translation services online. Don't assume that her French is in fact as good as it may appear. You never know with these Somali chicks - fancy azz sly moves are their daily cup of tea

Originally posted by naden: ^ No doubt that a stable home where parents encourage excellence and higher study is a must for success. I think a segregated school might work only if the above conditions are met; it is not only the segregation that will be key. The goal is to remove black children from an environment where they are herded into 'special' education, streamed out of advanced classes, punished differentially and with severity under the guise of zero-tolerance of violence, and passed classes without effort because they make the basketball or the track team get awards. If a mainstream school can fight these discriminatory practices, then sure, a black child would do just as well as any child in a regular school. Well - ok - but where are the parents to stand up for their kids who are being unfairly treated or mistreated. These are the same parents of the kids in this black-only proposed school. Will they be aware of or even care if their kids complete their homework, get that college application in on time etc.? Can a black-only school play the role of parent that many black kids seem to lack? I have my doubts. My initial reaction to this proposal and the one in Canada was of serious misgivings and suspicions. But I wish them well - let's at least see how this may work.

^Well, you certainly won't attract them with the title of your thread "hey Art fags". On second thought, maybe you will.........hmmm...

Originally posted by Socod_badne: Ibtishaam, I had change of heart... I will contact my MP from London, Ontario. That's funny SB since if you're in Ottawa - a London, Ontario MP ain't ur MP.

Originally posted by Khayr: This letter is not a show of defeat but rather political maneuvering by Iran. You have to understand that a hardline, uncompromising approach is not the way of the current leader of Iran-Ayatollah Khamanei and at the end of the day, he has a final say and not the current president. If they were intellectual and not crude - they wouldn't need to issue threats and demands on a daily basis. Their position is being eroded by their seeming inability to keep their mouths shut. PS - Why in God's name does SOL censor the word 'estupid' without the 'e'? Wierd.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: Adeer Stoic-ow, remember what they did in Mogadishu? Frankly, all i would like America do is to leave us alone by not arming the warlords, and by telling these stinking Etiopians to steer away from our internal affairs, and also by not encouraging any seccesionist to secede. If they just do that it would be great, me thinks. HEAR, HEAR!!

^I am not so sure. Black kids benefit from having good teachers and school facilities just like all other kids. This is available in a lot of mainstream schools. However, the one vital part missing in a lot of black homes is the encouragement and drive amibitious and forward looking parents inbue in their children so that they really strive and a 'C' doesn't elicit happiness. That latter point is something no black-only school can hope to overcome easily.

^Damn! You guys sound like Ahmed Chalabi and the INC. And what a bunch of smarty pants pronogsticators they turned out to be

Originally posted by ibtisam: loool. IF only. ThePoint is female, well so i thought :confused: Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So only women can cut the penis off a male attacker. Wake up call Ibitisam - there are a helluva lot of homos in the western world - and you don't know what thost guys will do. LePoint est un monsieur - monsieur est le pronom masculine en francais - Angleterre - quel pays sauvage!

Originally posted by Castro: ^ I agree with the slight edge to Iran. But it's only slight. Have you thought of this scenario: Israel strategically bombs Iran's nuclear facilities and in the process "accidentally" kills a few hundred Iranians. Iran retaliates by declaring war on Israel and shutting off the Hormuz strait and oil prices skyrocket. When the whole world feels the pinch of higher oil prices, the US will be seen as "justified" in bombing Iran and they will. This whole scenario could transpire before the November elections, you know. A plausible scenario. But you don't think that the world will resent that Israel sent them into this crisis by attacking Iran. Especially when Israel can be restrained by a few words from the US. Mark my words - there will not be a US attack unless and until meaningful talks are held with the Iranians and no deal comes of it. And any attack will be only a US/Israel affair - and if the fallout is seriously negative, as it will no doubt be, that will isolate the US/Israel even more.

^I must say if a man came at me - I'd cut his penis off too - so good for her. Wouldn't you Khalaf? Come on?? Although - to be ultimately effective on the male species sex drive - you gotta cut to the source! The testes - so while he's fumbling around searching for his missing dick - u get ur machete and one good hack!!!!

Originally posted by ibtisam: Khalaf: Frère pourquoi être vous attaquez toujours mes personnes Arabes. Vous voulez que moi et toi ayez un combat. i conseil vous pour laisser des Arabes seuls. As for my flag C'est un petit pays dans le klaxon de l'Afrique. Je soutiens les personnes de ma maman, et félicite leurs accomplissements. well, well, well - a Britisher without atrocious French! Quel surprise! Khalaf - buddy - the gist of her message is piss off about the Arab thing - and that flag is the Somaliland flag! PS - Ibitisam - stop showing off!

^Somalians!? Who the hell are those freaks? I know a lot of Somalis - but Somalians? Are they Somalis who have some alien blood?

Originally posted by STOIC: I know he mentioned that South African is using it too. I am personally not sure about that considering that it was only few months ago that European Union threatened to sanction any country that dare to use the DDT. One thing the European Union missed is that this chemical will not be used in Agricultural setting. They will mostly apply in residential quarters. Enormous quantities of pesticides are used around the world every year. Many pesticides do not reach the target if they are not applied correctly. Instead they are end up on crops and trees that were non-target. I personally think that if Africa applied the DDT safely soon malaria will be history. DDT is one of the most misunderstood villains of the pesticide world. It is the only chemical that is effective against malaria .The ultimate residues of this chemical is clearly misunderstood. Can you believe that American food safety analyst still find some small amount of DDT on the American food. It’s been more than thirty years since they have banned the use of it. More and more of American foods have some sort of detectable pesticides in it. It is unfair to make the zero tolerance of pesticides applied only to African countries. Any pesticide does come with unacceptable aspects, but that should not deter people from using them. But you see these Europeans don't care - they licked their malaria problem in the southern Mediterranean. Quite frankly - given the record of African countries on health matters and regulations - I'm not so sure they will apply it correctly so as to minimize the impact on human health. But for sure - there shouldn't be pressure or international actions simply because a country chooses to use DDT - especially when they are, ostensibly, using it for a vital national health matter

^NO AMERICANS IN SOMALIA. Let the Somalis work it out if they can with help and military of African countries! How many places around the world has the US shat on and now we're calling for them to enter Somalia again! Does nobody remember the shambles they made of their involvement the last time!!

Holy! - is it necessary to gang up on the girl because she was offended by something someone said and called him an atheist. If that person was offended he will take it up with nameless. :eek:

^But wait the article says: "However, Mwakyusa said other African countries, including South Africa, were now using the chemical again." So they're not the first. I wonder if howling environmentalists will appear on the scene. Bloody likely I think.

Originally posted by Castro: about getting b!tch-slapped. Now, the Iranians have a couple of options: either withdraw from the retched NPT and give the UN Security Council and its blood-thirsty members (US, UK and France) the finger and risk getting bombed to the stone age (my choice) or they could stop this nuclear nonsense and keep their clandestine support for the "terrorist" organizations in the hope that the US will eventually cut its losses in Iraq and Afghanistan and run. If there is military action - I doubt Iran will be bombed into the stone age - more likely strategic bombing of specific sites. Personally, I think that Iran has a slight edge in this whole matter - if they could keep themselves from making daily pronouncments/threats and writing love letters. All Iran has to do is keep going as is - the US however needs to muster international opinion to its side and then mobilize their countrymen and military for another assault on another middle-eastern country.

^hmmm - I wonder how high they will lift DDT up - will they go for a new Guiness World record

Originally posted by naden: One can only imagine the desert storyteller of yesteryear gathering his hefty, hairy wives, dusty children and slovenly slaves to tell tales of the day when we will be no more. Save for what is taken from the Quran, the rest of the 'signs' in that list are the products of imaginations to titillate, frighten and all-around amuse. hmmm - I thought you may have an issue with the interpretation or authenticity of particular hadiths but here you are smearing the whole tradition of hadith and the sayings of the Prophet (pbuh). I don't get it.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Ingiriiska still tops the list being the most Muslim-friendly when it comes to Western country. Tell me, which Western nation would dare to free a non-citizen convicted killing a policewoman, as that Mustaf Jaamac was, who the last time I knew was freed. Kanada would do such a thing? 'Security Certificate' mala ilooway. Hello Xasan Amreey. Hello Max'ed Saki Maxjuub. Hello Maxamuud Jabaallah. Hello Caadil Sharkuuy. Hello Qadar family. UK is much, much better than walaa Mareykan, Kanada and Australia iyo New Zealand la isku daray when it comes to Muslim issues. Iskaba dhaaf Continental Yurub. I would have to disagree my friend as regards Muslim/immigrant friendly. I would say Canada and the US are the best - with a slight edge to Canada. Any country that has a party like the BNP(and which receives substantial votes) can't be as accomodating as a country that doesn't have a national party even approaching that. That said - without a doubt, on balance, it is a friendly country for immigrants and Muslims.

Originally posted by hodman: Some school teachers, however, don't believe that there's an over-promotion of ESL. “If a child is exposed to a foreign language at home, regardless of where they're born, he or she will certainly have a deficit in vocabulary and therefore is recommended for ESL. †says Amy Olson, who teaches ESL at Nicollet Jr. High in Burnsville. She believes that most ESL students gain from it, but acknowledges that there might be a very small number who shouldn't have been there. Whoa there guys! If someone can't read and speak english properly - it will soon become apparent. They will start failing - and reason would advise them to enroll in ESL But for teachers to arbitrarily decide what you know and where you belong is ridiculous. Look at that quote above - are you kidding me! What an arrogant biatch.

Originally posted by naden: Never mind that Ayan Hersi heffer, I can't believe they put Jada Pinkett-Smith on the list. The woman is a two-bit actress and a vomit-inducing singer. She's been on a different sort of list in my book since she and that big-eared husband of hers butchered my favourite Luther Vandross song, Never Too Much :mad: . Huh! Whachu talking bout? Jada is a responsible, still married, well-spoken, non-drug/alchohol taking, black woman. Don't you know blacks have low expectations of other blacks

I thought Britain was the last place to go in this direction in Europe - and now it seems to be happening there. And with the illegal alien brouhaha in the States - only Canada seems to have not been infected by this spreading virus. Not yet at least! ------------------------------------------- Foes of Foreigners Grow Vocal In Britain Anti-Immigrant Party Garnering Support By Kevin Sullivan Washington Post Foreign Service Thursday, May 4, 2006; Page A18 LONDON, May 3 -- Paula Mitchell, cutting fresh flowers in the Gale Street Florist shop in east London, said she's voting for candidates of the British National Party in local elections on Thursday -- but she hopes they lose. "If they got in, I'd be absolutely horrified," said Mitchell, 38, who described her planned ballot for the vehemently anti-immigration BNP as a protest against what she sees as out-of-control immigration to Britain. We're against people coming in and taking our jobs, taking our school places, getting priority in housing," said Mitchell. "Everyone is fed up, and we want to make our feelings known." The BNP declares itself "wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples." It seeks to restore the overwhelmingly white makeup of Britain before 1948; its leader has called Islam a "wicked, vicious faith." Support from people like Mitchell, a white mother of three whose political views otherwise appear generally mainstream, illustrates rising anti-immigration sentiment in Britain and across Europe. Parties long dismissed by many as the racist fringe have become increasingly popular as governments that once freely accepted immigrants question how many more their nations can take. "It should be a worry for all Western democracies," said Nick Lowles of Searchlight, an anti-racist group that publishes a magazine in Britain. Lowles said many voters were turning to extremist parties to vent anger at their political leaders. "People are shouting out," he said, "and they want to be heard." In France, a public opinion poll last month showed that more than a third of respondents believed the anti-immigrant National Front, led by the outspoken Jean-Marie Le Pen, was in line with "the concerns of French people." Numbers like that could make the party a power in presidential elections next year. The anti-immigration Danish People's Party in Denmark and Progress Party in Norway, meanwhile, both reached record levels of the vote -- 13 and 22 percent, respectively -- in elections last year. A British study this month concluded that up to a fourth of British voters were considering supporting the BNP. Their country now has an estimated 7 million people of various minority groups. "The BNP's message is simple and seductive," Lowles said. "It's always nice to be able to blame someone else for your problems." The BNP's appeal "stems not so much from crude racism, but from disillusionment with the government," said Vernon Bogdanor, a professor of government at Oxford University. He and other analysts said immigrants are often blamed for tough economic times, and many voters fault the Labor Party government of Prime Minister Tony Blair for not doing enough to control immigration. Blair's government has been rocked by scandals recently, including the disclosure that more than 1,000 foreigners convicted of crimes including murder and rape had been released from prison instead of being deported, and many are still unaccounted for. On Wednesday, Blair told Parliament that he was drafting a plan to automatically deport foreigners convicted of serious crimes. Public anger over the scandal deepened Wednesday when the government disclosed that the prime suspect in November's shooting death of a female police officer was a Somali immigrant who had not been deported despite multiple criminal convictions and prison terms in Britain. "The BNP have become the protest vote for people who don't like the government for any number of reasons," Bogdanor said. Despite that "combustible" anger, Bogdanor said, mainstream voters still might not back the BNP, which has never won a seat in Parliament and holds only 21 local offices. Opinion polls published last weekend showed the party had only about 4 or 5 percent support nationally, but 30 percent or more in some urban areas. Jon Cruddas, a Labor Party member of Parliament who represents the working-class east London borough where Mitchell's flower shop is located, said the BNP had made "a conscious strategy to work into areas of white working-class disillusionment," such as his district. The party is fielding a record 357 candidates out of 4,000 total candidates nationally, including 13 in Cruddas's district of 180,000 people, where unemployment is rampant. The area, which was 85 percent white in the 2001 census, has some of the city's least-expensive housing and has been a magnet for immigrants, with the black African population growing by 3 to 4 percent a year, Cruddas said. In recent interviews with people on the street and in shops in the neighborhood, nearly every person expressed agreement with the BNP's arguments about immigration, and several said they planned to vote for the party. "The issue in this city is immigration," said Jackie Odger, who works in Toddy's Unisex Hair Salon. "People don't like it when people come here and claim benefits they're not entitled to." Odger said she was concerned about the BNP's "racist side," but added that she feels she "might vote for them and not tell anyone." The neighborhood has drawn attention recently because the government employment minister, Margaret Hodge, a Labor Party member of Parliament who represents the area, said publicly that 80 percent of the voters she met in the borough were considering voting for the BNP. Richard Barnbrook, a BNP candidate for the local council, was so delighted, he said, that he sent Hodge 10 flowers, including eight white lilies pointedly representing BNP voters. Barnbrook, 45, a special-needs teacher, ran against Hodge in the most recent election, finishing with about 4,950 votes to her 14,000. He said he's tired of "P.C., wishy-washy subjects" taught in schools -- world history instead of British history, for example. He said he favors chemical castration for pedophiles and serial rapists and wants more government support for the "indigenous peoples" of Britain. Dressed in a tan suit, Barnbrook walked around the neighborhood, slipping copies of a BNP publication promoting the party as "the voice of the silent majority" through front-door mail slots. Featured on the cover is a photo taken in 1953 on the day of Queen Elizabeth II's coronation, showing a large group of white women and girls attending a party. Below are two more-recent photos of the neighborhood, showing black men and Muslim women in head scarves and veils. Large bold letters ask, "Is this what you really want?" Barnbrook said the flier simply shows the area's "traditional identity" and how it has changed over the years. " 'Racist' is the right word to use," said Sunday Ogunyemi, 31, a Nigerian immigrant who has lived in the borough for six years. "Their views do not represent what most British people say. Britain is a country that welcomes people from other countries."