^^^ Something must have taken over my psyche. Apologies to you dear sir, don't want you to get soiled now do we

I gotta admit I am somewhat interested too. Apart from once in a while listening to the elders talk about politics I usually veer from that topic completely. Keep going Yoonis since you seem to be the only one providing information.

Monday's boy is fair of Face, Tuesday's boy is full of grace, Wednesday's boy is full of woe, Thursday's boy has far to go, Friday's boy is loving and giving, Saturday's boy works hard for a living, The boy that is born on the Sabbath day is bony, blythe, good and Gay 10-4 Castro

Just expounding on his theory sxb.......... . My theory is that at some point in someone's life they deal with sexuality issues. Some people bury it because it is taboo while others face it and find a way to move past it and others actually embrace it. Maybe thats a basis behind that study who knows ~~ Just a thought ~~

^^^ So you saying between the last four male posters one of them would "statistically" be gay........ interesting

^^^ Thanks for the compliment and advice. I don't think I had much to do with it nor do I think I can provide much information but at least I can alley his issues with some things most of the time I tell him I will look into it. He came by the monday after the Jumaa he took the shahada and spent the whole time talking to me about Islam. I was being nosey about how stuff was working out. I promised to get him a kofiya he said he liked the old swahili ones..........si zile za unzi. My roomate is not a muslim but she fasted with me during Ramadhan. Don't ask why she says she was being supportive. I just wish there was more I could do for him since I feel for him. He told me his grandma is a staunch Christian and Republican and he has yet to tell her about it. Wonder how that will go

^^^ aw schucks I would love to but I got to make up my O-Chem Lab I missed during Eid. Maybe you could take notes and pass them along

Recently at our local mosque we had a student convert to Islam. I wasn’t there for the special occasion but I knew the fellow who converted. He was my roommate’s friend and had come over a few times to the apartment. I thought he was unique first time I met him because he was taking an Arabic class and actually was interested to the point he asked me for my Arabic cds. Looking at the dude he was a typical Midwest white dude; a$$ crack showing when he bent over with a loud bellowing voice. One day while I was walking back to my apartment I found him sitting in the lobby with a book between his hands. On closer inspection the book he held so delicately was the Holy Quran with translation. I pretended not to notice and said hi. He was polite and said he was waiting for one of us to come home so he could chill with us. So I asked him in and popped in a DVD for him to watch while I went about fixing myself some lunch. I casually quizzed him about his Arabic lessons and his major, which was philosophy. Aha! I thought I finally found a crack to sneak through. Then I asked him what religion classes he took for his Phil. major. He was forthright with information almost eager to talk about religion. We talked about jews and Christians and off course Islam. I again asked if he was taking any religion classes at the moment and he replied in the negative. Weird…………why would he be reading the Quran if he had no reason to :confused: He asked me about my background and I told him about my family and religion and off course my liberal views. We slowly moved to the difference about religions and he brought up things. I answered them to the best of my knowledge and we built a rapport because I told him I had those questions a few years back and I took philosophy class to understand and learn about other religions. The outcome turned out that I instead learnt more about my own religion and became more grounded in my faith. Now I am happy with wearing my hijab, come to terms with polygamy within reason, adultery, marriage et al. He came back the next week and this time he asked about prayers and fasting. We covered that topic and since it was Friday I asked him if he wants a practical lesson and I got ready for Jumaa prayers and drove both of us to the mosque. Off course I wasn’t sure how this would go over with the men in the mosque because I am the only female coming to the mosque most of the time but I felt if someone wanted to gain knowledge no one should stand in their way. So I asked a brother who opened the sister’s section for me to let my friend sit and watch the Jumaa prayers. After prayers I didn’t see him so I worried that something must have happened to him but I had classes to attend to. I didn’t hear from him for a couple weeks and I was for sure he probably was over his curiosity phase. Imagine my surprise when I walked into one of the imam’s house to visit and I saw him sitting on the couch. I just say hi and make some small talk while I watched him and the imam talk and eat lunch. Nawaal, the imam’s wife, apologizes for the male presence but I assure her its no problem. Later they both leave and Nawaal lets me know that John has decided to take the Shahada. She is excited and asked me what I thought. I told her I thought it was a joyous occasion in this small hick town to have a convert but I also questioned his intention for being a muslim. When the imam came home later I was still there so his wife brought up my question and he said I shouldn’t question a person’s intention for conversion because they are the only ones who know how true their intention is. I know it was a long tale but my reason behind it is to lay the foundation for how a person got to the point of conversion. As Muslims who were born into Islam we were not met with a lot of obstacles at the beginning of our faith. At most we accepted everything we were told. You could call it luck or blind faith depending on how you view it but I choose to call it blind faith. Converts have the hardest journey. They move from a comfort zone to an alien land at the cost of being an outcast. This to me is an envious thing. They learn the religion from a perspective that most of us cannot achieve. Most of converts are better Muslims than Muslims who are born into Islam. Muslims these days try so hard to integrate western values in their life that they lost their path. On the other hand we also have converts who have shed the western philosophies they were brought up in for a better life. They don’t try to be Arab-like but in reality most of them end up being more Pakistani/African like. They are also usually met with criticism from their social circle but to pour salt over a wound, fellow Muslims tell them they are pretending or worse that they are in love with the novelty and not the faith. I am just wondering what actually makes one a convert and how far will they stick it out? What resources as Muslims can we provide? How can we change the way we view converts in regards with them trying to assimilate into Islam by picking up the dressing habits/language/uttering Allah’s praises in every other sentences?

Erm thats during finals week Hope people take some time out of their studies to attend it. Why do they require advance registration if its free to enter and they are not serving anything to the attendees?

I am sowwie :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Khayr: whats that you say-4, how dare they say 4 whats that you say- women first, muslim second Oi maybe he should answer your questions. My understanding is with the quote I focused on. I think he meant it for women muslims. Plus you ain't got to be a woman to advocate women's right yakhee **Just a thought**

Originally posted by Socod_badne: quote:Originally posted by Curling Waterfall: Plan B aborts the little guys' mission .... not the baby. AhA! gotcha! Then I propose Plan C - affirmative action against Plan B. Would that be pray tell? Giving "gatorade" to the lil guy to swim faster.

^^^ Could you also pinpoint who you are in the video

^^^ We should keep family squabbles to ourselves soo maaha.......you don't want me to tell tales now do you? **snicker snicker**

^^^ This is an interesting twist I would have to say. Liibaan:On contraception Islam is clear you can use it to widen the gap between your children and if pregnancy is life threatening to the mother. Allahu Ya3lam those are the only cases I have heard birth control is ok to use. The other thing is don't confuse Plan B (Emergency Contraceptive) with Mifepristone (Abortion drug).It is important to understand that EC does not terminate a pregnancy. Pregnancy is generally defined, in the medical field anyway,as implantation and not fertilization. EC works before implantation and does not work after a woman is pregnant. If a woman is already pregnant when she takes EC, there is no effect on the fetus or the woman. Jeez Louise I sound like a CE on Plan B

^^^ You should have paid attention more to your prose/poetry lessons. Erm and about the post........funny I thought all humans are of fickle mind. Wouldn't it be fair to say that we are all looking for some "relation" to a struggle? Stop pointing your spotlight on women :rolleyes: We all have flaws and since you are advocating embracing mine...........can I say OPEN WIDE for embracing your flaws and failures is embracing your humanity.

^^^ I wouldn't be too quick to gloat. The viks have had a good run but its not because they played good. Actually today's game is the only game that I saw much action that resembled a team effort of "receiver/QB" co-ordination. Special Teams is all that you got going for you. Fix up look sharp and they might still be in contention at least in their division.

Castro there are many things as a muslim I do that does not correspond with Islamic ethics. What you are trying to liken to my tale is a bartender,a muslim, serving drinks to a drunk? I am sorry but if I thought that about the drugs I dispensed I would have quit my job before I started it. A doctor prescribes contraceptives, should he quit his job because contraception is "iffy" issue in Islam? A clerk who sells a person a pack of condoms should quit because they are inadvertently "encouraging" sexual intercourse? My ethics, my choice sxb but you draw your own conclusions. As for if it is considered abortion let me clear it up for you (My views and the Islamic one) My view :It takes 6 days for the "fertilized" egg to migrate down the fallopian tube and a further 6 days for it to attach to the uterian wall. Another thing is according to the American Pregnancy Association 50-75% of women who haven't realized they are pregnant lose their babies before their next menstrual cycle begins. Odds of that "egg + sperm" actually being a child are astronomical in my book. That we are talking about people who already are irresponsible enough to have unprotected sex couples the fact that I do think Plan B should be an over the counter item. If you are going to be a farmer you might as well take all the tools with you to the garden, na mean Islamic View : The Council of Senior Scholars issued the following statement: 1 – It is not permissible to abort a pregnancy at any stage unless there is a legitimate reason, and within very precise limits. 2 – If the pregnancy is in the first stage, which is a period of forty days, and aborting it serves a legitimate purpose or will ward off harm, then it is permissible to abort it. But aborting it at this stage for fear of the difficulty of raising children or of being unable to bear the costs of maintaining and educating them, or for fear for their future or because the couple feel that they have enough children – this is not permissible. 3 – It is not permissible to abort a pregnancy when it is an ‘alaqah (clot) or mudghah (chewed lump of flesh) (which are the second and third periods of forty days each) until a trustworthy medical committee has decided that continuing the pregnancy poses a threat to the mother’s wellbeing, in that there is the fear that she will die if the pregnancy continues. It is permissible to abort it once all means of warding off that danger have been exhausted. 4 – After the third stage, and after four months have passed, it is not permissible to abort the pregnancy unless a group of trustworthy medical specialists decide that keeping the foetus in his mother’s womb will cause her death, and that should only be done after all means of keeping the foetus alive have been exhausted. A concession is made allowing abortion in this case so as to ward off the greater of two evils and to serve the greater of two interests. Islam Q and A Hope it helps

Plan B is a drug just like any other drug behind/over the counter. That it is used as a preventative measure for unwanted pregnancy should not be FDA's place to decide. Condoms/spermicides/female condoms are all methods of prevention of pregnancy over the counter. Plan B should be available right next to them. I dispensed Plan B to a girl once who had a pierced navel and hot pants. She didn't look a day above 18 but she found a way to get the medicine through doctor. How would this girl take care of a kid if she ended up pregnant? She might get a hack job abortion behind the dumpster/give birth to the child and dump him/her in the dumpster/give birth to the child and keep it making his/her life horrible cause she can't provide the care for it. I am sorry but there are enough children dying after they draw their first breath. Plan B is not abortion because its only taken within 72 hours after unprotected sex. You can't even find out if you are pregnant within that amount of time so I don't think a woman, who decided to have unprotected sex to begin with, is "irresponsible" by taking the initiative of not making others (child) suffer for her "dumb" mistake. FDA should butt out and do the job that is set out for them; making sure that drugs are safe and advertised correctly. No one asked them to police the morals of the drug users. Oi these are my "liberal" views so let me prepare a proper rope with a noose

Originally posted by Pretty Tone: The healthare worker can also intefere if he treats a patient with a bullet wound to the police [/QB] Huh :confused:

^^ Awww schucks thank you.

Originally posted by Caano Geel: ^^ are you trying to label me? p.s. * u're pic. is too big more my monitor* I am sowwie I took it off. I will keep my creative side to myself

Sowwie about the pic I took it off. I was trying something out

Short and sweet. Medical ethics does not allow doctors to divulge their patients confidentiality.Lawyers,when clients confides a murder, cannot tell on them.In the instance of a patient having AIDS and not telling his spouse and kids that they might be carriers is this really the time to stand by your ethics when you can save two or more people by telling? If your client killed someone aren't you doing the society a favor by pointing a finger at him? Would like to hear your view on this pls. I got to admit I don't know much about this subject but as far as I have seen the only time the healthcare workers can interfere is when the patient refuses to practice safe sex but how do they reinforce this?

^^^ Hear hear...........about the love n romance crap anyway. As to additions of sections I don't think it matters most people roam thru most section in the forum. Labels is all you are arguing about :rolleyes: