The political whores of our era are once more dressed in new attire and and are lab dancing to new tune. indeed its funny how these coalition of misfits seem to always get new mahdi on the horizon. one which they swear will sweap away their continues nightmare entity known as somaliland which seems to have inflicted these poor souls with so much pain and anguish over the years with its mere existance. But allas its always a fake horizon its always back to ground zero for them, they always end up having to look for new Ideology to protitute themselves for all over again. indeed our principle never change, our vision never blurs and our beloved nations destiny is written in blood and no polical whores of today is going to change that.

well you fools better get used to it because he will become president os somaliland next elections

Originally posted by me: quote:Originally posted by Qudhac: quote: Originally posted by Mansa Munsa: Dear Oodweyne, You missed the point here, and no need of over expressing yourself. what was the point you were attempting to make with this post. can one miss a point if there was none made... Thanks Qudhac I thought that I was the only one that realized that no point was made and that it was just Oodweynes usual hot air. ( Isn't it a waste though? all that space, all that time, all that effort and no point made) dear me. young boy please read things very carfully before you start thanking people for agreeing with you.

what are these walaweyn arguing about imika, waaba yaab? why do you constantly must talk about conquiring and massacring eachother like 16 century cavemen and savages. you people are the closest living creatures to the wild barbarians that used to roam. if these Haw1ye wadaads manage to make maamul for their degaans after 16 years of savaging each other kudus to them, maybe next they might set up some sort instutes that serves the public, but please stop blowing your own trumpets, its getting boring now. somali ma maantay isbaranaysaa, mise maalinba kii cambuulo ka soo dhergaa ayaa dhuuso dadka ku waalaya. i say talk is cheap please ninkii ninkale ka xoog waynow bal cirka soo rid.

what are these walaweyn arguing about imika, waaba yaab? why do you constantly must talk about conquiring and massacring eachother like 16 century cavemen and savages. you people are the closest living creatures to the wild barbarians that used to roam. if these Haw1ye wadaads manage to make maamul for their degaans after 16 years of savaging each other kudus to them, maybe next they might set up some sort instutes that serves the public, but please stop blowing your own trumpets, its getting boring now. somali ma maantay isbaranaysaa, mise maalinba kii cambuulo ka soo dhergaa ayaa dhuuso dadka ku waalaya. i say talk is cheap please ninkii ninkale ka xoog waynow bal cirka soo rid.

miskiin leave the kid alone we rock his world, dont deny the kid his paste time favourite.

Originally posted by Mansa Munsa: Dear Oodweyne , You missed the point here, and no need of over expressing yourself. what was the point you were attempting to make with this post. can one miss a point if there was none made...

ok me this will make you look ****** now, i dont know you set yourself for these traps. this was the actual demostration in pictures http://www.togdheernews.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=461

general duke why how do you think he ended up in hargeisa central prison in the first place? he was with the group of men who were captured days before the palimentary elections whom planned several assasinations and there was shoutout between this group and police early in the morning when the house was raided early in the morning which lasted for several hours, in which several police officers were killed most of those group who have now gone through the courts and have been sentenced including this particuler guy.

general yes that what he was charged with and doing time for. i mean its simple message if you want to plot and destablise somaliland kill those thaT reside in it as forign guest all in the name your deluded dreams then go ahead, but please dont cry about the consiquences because we will not show you mercy. these people pray day and night for the sky to fall on somaliland so why should we listen to them calaacal now, please ama marka hore fadhiista ama baroorta joojiya oo and take it like men.

the actuall video is withought a doubt fake but never the less the prisoner claims he was mistreated by the CID officers, therefore it should be investigated having said all that this guy actually was behind the plot to interupt the parliament elections not too long ago and operations that followed his captured resulted in deaths of three police officers. he has actually been through the courts and is waiting sentence, there is no doubt his political believe are extreme and he will plot again given the chance. The somaliland Government has a duty to protect its citizens and those foreigners that reside as guests, from those who who wish it harm.

oh here we go again the calaacal crew once are shedding more crocadile tears. if this so called shiekh doesnt want to be tortured then why go to all that trouble to try and assasinate foriegners not to mention killing three police offers in uniform on duty. the truth is these people are demented in their hate for somaliland and its people therefore somaliland should not show mercy in its defence of its people whether they called themselves wadaad or warlord somaliland must crush these mercinaries and hate mongers who only know how to kill and destablise peacefull people in their persuit of power. indeed the CID must be given all the tools it needs to combat these deranged fanatics who are obsessed with power.

i think the brother who wrote this had one too many boxes of the green stuff. talk about paranoi, being scared of "riyaale" in mafrash, looool give us a break its clear thios is just another excuse to insult the leaders and the hounarable opposition parties who serve their nation and the people who install those responsibilies in them.

loooooooool waleee walaweyn dhuusadooda kama daalan, lool kolba durbaan ha qaraacaan am from burco and i have never heard of this cali warsame dude, even if he was former member of al-itihad that sect only survived by name and has zero public support and none existance millitary capability, so all the somaliland supporters of courts can do is go to muqdisho which is water off our backs. but if you look beyong their rhetoric i dont believe the courts have any intention and indeed it would be very difficult for them to go beyond south of galkacyo.

this was good move by the government, indeed these European countries cannot expect to dump somalis including those who commit serious crimes into somaliland backyard, indeed i agree 100% with the aviation minister. lets hope their appology and promise never to do it again will be kept.

Dbouti

Dan Simpson: The ghost of Somalia The issue of whether Somaliland should be recognized as a separate, independent country has been on the African and international agenda since government collapsed in Somalia itself in 1991. Dan Simpson, a retired U.S. ambassador, is a Post-Gazette associate editor (dsimpson@post-gazette.com). The entity that calls itself Somaliland, the former British Somaliland, which merged with the newly independent Italian Somaliland in 1960 to form the then nation of Somalia, has had many of the attributes of nationhood for more than a decade. These include a functioning government, settled borders, a flag and a constitution. It even has an airline, Daallo Airlines, which I didn't find substantially worse to fly than US Airways. Somaliland seemed different from Somalia itself when I visited its capital, Hargeisa, briefly in June. Hargeisa, by contrast to Mogadishu, the ostensible capital of what is left of Somalia itself, shows no guns and seems like a busy but quiet African capital. Africa and the world continue to insist that Somaliland is still part of Somalia and that its independence should not be recognized. When I was U.S. ambassador and special envoy to Somalia in 1994-95 I agreed with that point of view. Part of my reasoning then was that there was still fighting among the Somalis in Somaliland over its borders and over who controlled the government. Those differences have now been resolved for years and I see no further valid reason to deny Somaliland recognition as a separate, independent country. The argument against recognition of its independence is that to accept its successful separation is to accept the dissolution of Somalia as a country. Africa and the world do not wish that to happen. Not only is it messy, worst of all from the point of view of other African countries it risks encouraging separatist movements across the continent to seek independence for their own pieces of real estate. Countries vulnerable in that regard are numerous. Plus, there has been only one agreed separation to date, that of Eritrea from Ethiopia in 1993, and that has led to warfare between them that simmers to this day. So, runs the argument, the position of the African Union, supported more or less mindlessly by the United States to please the Africans, de facto Somaliland independence remains unrecognized. The U.S. government continues to pretend that Somaliland is part of the country of Somalia, which no longer exists except as lines on the map. Somalia as a country collapsed formally in 1991. Africa and the world has tried, with visibly diminishing enthusiasm, to put it back together again ever since. Having stubbed its toe badly there in the 1991-95 period, the United States virtually ignored Somalia in its fragmented state until some of the Somali warlords managed to persuade the Bush administration that they were worthy recipients of cash to use in the alleged war on terrorism. Never at a loss in using words creatively, the Somali warlords called themselves The Alliance for the Restoration of Peace and for Counter-Terrorism. Now who could not want to finance peace and the war on terrorism? It is said that they were receiving $100,000 to $150,000 a month at one point to bring freedom to Somalia. That U.S. enterprise crashed and burned June 5 when the peace and counterterrorism gang were driven out of Mogadishu by the Council of Islamic Courts gang. Insult was added to U.S. injury June 22 when the Courts group signed an agreement with the ostensible Somali Federal Government of Transition in Khartoum, the capital of Sudan. The accord, which included an FGT surrender, posing as a cease-fire, was signed under the auspices of the Arab League, whose current president is Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir, one of America's least favorites. The league's secretary general, former Egyptian Foreign Minister Amr Moussa, called the warlords America's team, war criminals who should be put on trial. No Westerners were involved in the event. The next meeting of the Courts Council with the hapless transitional government, based in Baidoa, far from Mogadishu for its own safety, will take place July 25, again in Khartoum. The United Nations seems to be coming to terms with the Islamic Courts Council. Its representatives met with Courts officials in Somalia on July 3. The United States appears so far not to have regained its feet in the face of the June 5 and June 22 setbacks. Press reports first had the United States offering talks. On July 1, however, State Department Africa bureau head Jendayi Frazer told Congress that the United States would not hold talks with the Courts group, now clearly in control of most of the old Somalia, minus Somaliland and another candidate breakaway area, Puntland. Ms. Frazer said U.S. policy would be to seek to strengthen former Somali police in support of the Baidoa transitional government. It is true that it is toothless; resuscitating the old Somali police, however, is quixotic. The United States tried that at great cost in the 1990s. It didn't work. The bottom line is that Somalia remains a big mess, although the Courts group may now be able to impose some order. I didn't go to Mogadishu this time because I knew how I could get in, but not how I could get out given the lack of clarity there. The idea that Mogadishu is a nest of al-Qaida adherents is a fantasy sold to the United States by clever Somali warlords, always adept at working scams to get money for arms. It is also definitely time to recognize the independence of Somaliland. There is no longer any Somalia whose territorial integrity needs to be defended. The African Union has shown itself to be hopeless with regard to the Somalia issue and has now been supplanted in any negotiating role by the Arab League. If there is still in existence a sense of Somali national identity that cuts across the old Italian and British Somalilands, Somalis seeing Somaliland walk away independent might revive it. If not, why hold a new Somaliland hostage to a ghost? Source Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

our mercenaries know how to milk cow to death and they also know when to stop pushing a dead horse, they properly realise they can squeeze any more dosh from the yey bandwagon, so its time for new source of cash and to wait for the arab money. loool although they have no shame you have to admire their witts

waxa la yidhi nin kale talaabadiisa waa lagu lumaa, wixii waxba qabsankari waayey haday isleeyiin somaliland uun xaasida then am afraid way ku hungoobi. we are not suprised and we not offended really by all the emitators as somalida kale have always been doing this.

1) In la rido xukuumada Cali Maxamed Geedi, balse laga soo reebo ra’iisal wasaraha oo qura. 2) In xukuumada la soo dhisayo ay noqoto mid laga soo dhiso golaha baarlamanka ka banaanka. 3) In xukuumadu ay ku koobnaato 31 wasiir iyo ku xigeenadooda. 4) In xukuumada muddo 10 maalmood ah lagu soo dhiso so this must be the peice of paper the Ethopian guy gave to the three stooges on the weekend

1) In la rido xukuumada Cali Maxamed Geedi, balse laga soo reebo ra’iisal wasaraha oo qura. 2) In xukuumada la soo dhisayo ay noqoto mid laga soo dhiso golaha baarlamanka ka banaanka. 3) In xukuumadu ay ku koobnaato 31 wasiir iyo ku xigeenadooda. 4) In xukuumada muddo 10 maalmood ah lagu soo dhiso so this must be the peice of paper the Ethopian guy gave to the three stooges on the weekend

^^^ my friend this is cyber space and the domain is most likely own by an american or european, sorry to burst your bubble but this is neither somalia/land/somali or anywhere else you imagine it to be. desk, computer, chair ...these are the only real things..

it dosnt really matter anyway wixii ka dambeeyay these shamefull acts waxay ku wada dhinteen duli wixii nool na kaba sii daran. all those who bathed in the blood of our youth that fatefull day will ultimately answer to the almighty so its really no point returning to these dark moments of history, as only allah services justice and forgiveness on equall bounty. we will live in turmoil untill allah washes the blood of innocent muslims that have been spilt so many times on our soil, may allah have mercy on us all.

mr red to be honest i dont like spineless wetbacks that creep and crawl from one position to another. be a man and have solid opinions, stop always attempting to appease people by pretending to be moderate. just because i defend my home country from these somaliweyne and sayadist zealots i become a clan chear leader, well mr would you like to divulge with us which clan i have ever mention on these forums since i dont remember somaliland being a tribe. stop trying to appease these sons of xaraan-ku-naax because that makes you a spineless coward.

^^^^^ who said we own anybody explanation or convincing, my friend its eigher take or leave it...