Rahima ^ I don't see what difference it makes which city/town Yes it makes whole lot of difference. The Arta experience still fresh in our minds and we should not be repeating those same mistakes again and again. Any government that goes to Mogadishu will be skinned alive. So choice give the new admin stable place where institutions can be created without the fear of those horrible warlords, private militias, freelance moryaans, business people etc. who thinks they going lose once a functioning gov. takes its place in Mogadishu. Do we want to see this infant administration following the root of KMG 1 in Arta? Xoogsade Saxardiid, Some in Xamar would welcome the move. The farther away the influence, the better for them. They would have lost nothing in their judgement. And I am sure it would be a huge surprise to those who expected this to be of any defeat or some sort of revenge they were exacting on others. In my personal opinion, Where government is based temporarily or permanently will have no affect whatsoever on Mogadishu and its people. They have the wealth and the means to make best of their situation. All they need is to Unite Now and put their differences behind, form a local government that works and show they have matured and learned from experience. Sxb your reply shows your personalising the whole affair of the new gov. You also talking Mogadishu like unified stable place. The truth of the matter is Mogadishu needs lot of time, persuasion, and military might-especially from outside forces before any admin even start to think about going there. Yes agree with you they are wealthy and definitely have means to better their lives and others but bro one link is missing uniting their efforts and stop envying each other -I mean the political power there. Baidao on the other hand can perform better then Mogadishu coze its less developed and needs all the good things that associated with becoming a capital city even in the short term. REMEMBER SXB ALL THOSE PREVIOUS EFFORTS THAT FAILED BECAUSE MOGADISHU SAID NO! DJABOUTI, CAIRO, AND ARTA.

Paying back already started. Reer Baidao's relentless support is paying off as the rumor started that it will become temp seat for the AY's admin. Wise move huh. Totally support it. Bardaale district of Baidao will do, not rival Isha district where the governer used to live. Dawladda Kmg ah oo la sheegay in Baydhabo loo rarayo But take this news with pinch of salt would you.

Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed always has his last option of invading NorthWest region with not only Puntland troops but from the rest of Somalia and International Forces under his command. :confused: This won't happen in any circumstance sxb. Its not viable, desirable and totally counterproductive.

Warmooge ha yidhaa waa Majirtee. Waa Maalin Cad oon Madoobayne Aan Maalno Hasheena Maandeeq. A/Qasim lost because he concentrated all his campaign to bribe MP's but when it become clear that the vote will be secret then he lost the plot. Otherhand AY's message was clear to the most of the MP's especially reer baidao and group 5. This made a big difference. The other strategy that worked for him was emphasizing the second vote. As an MP he lobbied in the parliament for his old friends for support which tribe they come from. One example was a friend of mine called his uncle who is MP, supporter of A/Qasim and from same tribe from A/Qasim. He is col himself and knows to AY in the military. What he said was very interesting, he said A/Y requested my vote but I told him that as he well aware that he is supporting A/Qasim. AY nodded and said for the sake of our long time friendship give me your vote in the second round, which he tentatively agreed. So A/Y's strategy worked and his MPship worked. About going to Mogadishu he only needs good strategy including his choice of premiership. The rest will be a peace of cake.

Libaax sxb you haven't gave me a choice. None of them will be my favorite. Adow was my choice of president and i think AY will be choosing him as his prime minister. But Adow lost presidency twice and that convince me he is a man neither diplomat (i.e. connections) nor politician (see where things going to). The man who even couldn't make simple calculation in the next round to see AY’s victory –he could have the dignity of withdrowing the race and portray himself as a good loser. He disappointed me the least so he is not the man I thought he was. All others are just rubbish Qasim non starter, Aydiid Jr. disaster, M. dheere tell me sxb you joking right. Gacmadheere dignified but don’t have tribal back bone as Aydiid’s and Qasim’s sub sub clans undermine will undermine him. We can't also have two the most ranking people from same region mudug (I mean their tribes) so regions also must have some balance. If the near North have the pres. then south must have the prime minister. I am not for getting our own speaker of the house non other than Shariifka from baidao but need more. Now I think the prime Minster should be someone who can counter balance with the pres. (can keep the pres. in his constitutional boundries) and will have very strong tribal connections in Mogadishu. Someone from M. Dheere's family but highly qualified. I don't have the name but is there anyone like that in that sub clan?

Baidoa Jinaay is Calling. Reer baydhabo wadaninimada waa la idinku yaqaanaa. Nothing to lose with the system and everything to gain for. My city NOOLOOW oo JIR WALIGAA.

To be honest with i'm very proud of them. This people are true patriot. They must know what national government means to them and they must have very high hopes too. May Allah show them the day this government improves their life. Amiin. Its also impressive pictures too. this is my favourite one. thay praying for Allah to guide their new leader.

Be proud you are Somali tonite

Binhan I'm sure things will work out soon so long as we're willing to give c/yusuf our full support and a chance and to see if he's the one who can bring peace and prosperity to somalia. the process of rebuilding somalia will probably take 5-10 years but who cares how long it takes, as long as we have law and order and the freedom to travel around the country without getting ambushed. sister lets give all the support he needs and hope he will do "the right thing". Rahima I'm excited at the prospect though, not because he is the leader, but because i have hope that this government will make changes. For me, that means the achievement of a life goal, to return permanently to my homeland, my country of birth, my beloved Somalia. Such a sweet dream, i can almost touch it. This is what I call OPTIMISM We really need this.

Hambalyo and congratulations to our president H.E Abdulahi Yusuf Ahmed I am sure he will put together an able team to revive the country. I totally accept the result as already promised.

Originally posted by BINHAN: quote:Originally posted by Saxardiid: Second round counting is over it seems A/Y is the president of Somali. I guess your speculation was right. it was just simple calculation. lets hope this time things will workout nicely for our peoples sake.

I think MPs speak loud and clear so lets start new begining for somali. lets hope the new president will choose Adow as his prime minister so corrot and stick will make a difference for our people.

voted counted this is the resoult Cabdullaahi Yusuf Axmed 147 Cod Cabdullaahi Axmed Cadow 83 Cod Maxamed Qanyare Afrax 38 Cod so its simple calculation A/y 147 voted so if Adow and Qanyare support each other 83+38=121 so A/Y only needs to retain his 147. So the best strategy for Adow is to withdrow the contest and declare A/Y as President. So send your best wishes to our new president President ABDULAHI YUSUF AHMED.

Second round counting is over it seems A/Y is the president of Somali.

I, SAXARDIID, PROMISE TO ACCEPT WHOEVER IS ELECTED ON SUNDAY 10/10/2004. AND I MEAN IT.

Xarago I did not fire behind civilian lines knwing perfectly the reaction it would generate. Isn't what Siad Bare's apologists always justify bombing of Hargeysa, Bureo etc? or Americas justification of killing more than 1000 civilians in Mogadishu early 1990's? What happen in Dobley was criminal and sickening. Its not first city that suffered those crimes most of the southern Mogadishu regions suffer similar crimes.

It seems he is experienced, educated and not a warlord. What more you can ask. Will parliament full of warlords give him a chance?

People are coming to Hargeysa the same reason they did in Mogadishu decades ago; there are jobs, good public service etc. So to avoid the same fate the current government must plan ahead and distribute resources equally to all regions of the country. For example government must move all ministry of fishers activities to Lasqory while they ministry of agriculture's work and resources concentrates in Gabilay. What I am trying to say is the gov must choose specialisation of the regions as a strategy to relief Hargeysa burden and tackle Mogadishu’s effect head on (avoiding one city state).

I think he is ready to take the prime ministerial position but if he loses both posts then civil war will continue. Don't you think that?

Sh. Hasan Dihir who, is said, is the leader of the group said he and his group will oppose any government elected in Nairobi. I think he is happy with the status quo. If Morgan wins, which is unlikely, given the huge backing from Mogadishu, he may give a visit to Raas Kanboni for quick talk or do some sorting out there.

SRRC and (ARTA/G8/SAMATOBIXIN/JVA). Mind you all the big money (including illegal one) behind the later groups. I am beginning to think that A/Qasim my beat Adow before the final showdown with A/Y. And that will show the state of the conference and something about Somali politics in general.

Originally posted by SmithNwestern: Lol you dont knwo Somali's much then brother.... Thanks Mr Expert I don't know what your explanation will be when/if A/Y loses? Disappear

I share what Baashi said about the chances of A/Y. An other reason is all so-called Business people support anyone that is weak and incapable of running a government. The reason is that its their personal interest to keep Somali the way its now. If the vote for the speaker is anything to go by A/Y will lose with similar reason that Adan Madobe had lost. Another thing at least 45 votes from the north are ready for the highest bidder (A/Y not included). So I think A/Y will lose, as a result he won't accept the new president. But miracles do happen he may just be elected who knows.

He paid rich tributes to the President, His Highness Shaikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, and hailed his wisdom and excellent political stability that would serve as an example for Somalia to emulate. Af waxcunay xishoo baa layiri

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