Originally posted by SmithNwestern: Morgan a hero LOL Morgan wants to get Kismayu back however it does not belong to him or the thugs that now claim it. His comment is a joke, that Kismayu is his is a joke and the man needs to retire and stop the nonsence. SNW you absolutly righ and i totally agree with you.

give the lady credit as she mentioned some positive points about wearing hijab.

i tried to find any concrate solution of sool problem in this arical. I believe Mr. Cabdilahi Yusuf could, if he wants to, come to his senses and let the people of those regions decide their political destiny by expressing their collective political will on a ballot box rather than at the barrel of a gun can this be the solution?

Horn Or just plain sure of himself :rolleyes: Kibir sometimes can make a person seem insane. does he know that a great somali poet once said "Ragoow Kibirka waalagu jabaa kaa hala ogaado"? You would be surprised Sooyaal. I will be in shock! the guy is good for nothing except murder and distruction. i don't know how some one sees other than that.

Originally posted by HornAfrique: Sooyaal, Morgan "The Butcher of Hargeysa" turns with the tide. First a loyal supporter of the late regime and now wages war on his old compatriots. He has to be accounted for his actions, so how can he be a host to reconcile any Somali? what amazes me is that the guy escaped the region when he lost the battle disguised as a woman, how he can invite people to have peace conference? peace is concept that he never cherished and never let other people to enjoy it. Without any pretext the guy just made that offer. Either he is mad or high on substance. Gadiid is there any sane person that thinks Morgan is hero?

Huuganka i agree with you no justice no peace in somalia. but what you think about his statement which says Hadii shirku bur buro Kismaayo ayaan kuqabanay-naa shirka Dib u heshiisiinta soomalida aniga ayan marti galinya” ayuu yiri Jen. Morgan oo ku sugan Nayroobi does it have a shred of reality?

Originally posted by Xalimo7: Does it make you angry if i say publicly "I LOVE SOMALILAND" if it is does then Stuff it and taugh luck. CZ i Love It. see you, am around dude Wow this is what i call patriotism! girl do you wear T-shirt with sland flag. that will be cool.

Originally posted by SmithNwestern: [QB] Sooyaal, Again you are stating that the past conferences failed because of Abdullahi walking out, however you seem to forget the role the USC in the past conferences. i only said its one possiblity and strong one. its obvious the USC worlords have vested interest in the anarchy so does your man. The only conference that Abdullahi walked out on was Sodere and that lead to the creation of the Puntland state.. is it delebrate or lapse of memory from your part that you didn't seem to mention the Cairo conference where everyone agreed except your man and his ancle. Abdullahi wants to be Somali President and has a right to try and run for office. no one said he can't but i'm not sure if he has the attitude for the job.

Gogol Fariisigii ugu Horreeyey ee Dhex Maray Beelahii la Hayb Sooci Jirey iyo Lee1kase. C/Raxman Shiikh "Abu Turaabi" oo Ka Run Sheegay Ballan Qaadkiisii, iyo Gabdhihii oo Laga Guddoomey C/Raxman Shiikh "Abu Turaabi" Kulan aad u qiimo badnaa oo caawa lagu qabtay magaalada Minneapolis ee katirsan gobolka Minnesota ee dalka Maraykanka ayaa C/Raxmaan "Abu Turaabi" uu si rasmi ah ugu bixiyey labadii gabdhood ee uu Bishii December 29keedii, 2003 ku ballan qaaday kulan diineedkii saddexaad ee Soomaalida Woqooyiga Ameerika. Kulankaas hore waxa uu ka yiri "Magacayga waxaa la yiraahdaa CabdiRaxman Shiikh, waxaan ahay Qabiilka ********, waxaana go'aansaday oo aan ballan qaadayaa in aan saddexdayda gabdhood laba kamid ah siiyo cidda lagu tuhmayo nasab dhimanka, iyo in saddexdayda wiil labo kamid ahna aan u guurinayo gabdho ciddaas ka dhashay, Ballan ayaana ku qaadayaa in haddii Allah carruur kale i siiyo in aan wax ka siinayo ciddaas la yaso". click here for full artical

JEN. MOORGAN ”Haddii Shirku bur buro Kismaayo ayaan ku qabanaynaa shirka Dib u heshiisiinta soomalida aniga ayaana marti galinya. Jen. Maxamed Siciid Xirsi Moorgan oo u waram-ayay Idaacda Magaalda gaa-lkacyo ayaa si kulul uga jawa-abay dagaalada ka soocu-sboonaday gobolada Mudug, Sool, Jubada hoose, Bay iyo Jubda dhexe isagoo ku can-baareeyay inay dagaladaas abaabulayaan oo ay hoosta ka riixayaan walaalaha Gal-guduud oo uu u yaqaan Isba-haysiga dooxada jubba. Jen. Morgan wuxuu ku tilmamay kooxaha ka soo hor jeeda ama lug jiidaya shirka Mpagati doonyana in umma-da Somaliyeed silc ku noolaa-to iyagoo fiirsanaya danaho-oda gaarka ah. Jen. Morgan oo shee-gay in hadii uu bur buro shir-ka Mpagati ka socda lagu qa-ban doono gudaha soomaliya shirka dib u heshiisiinta gaar ahaan Magaalada Kismaayo oo uu sheegay inuu isagu marti galin doono. “Hadii shirku bur buro Kismaayo ayaan kuqabanay-naa shirka Dib u heshiisiinta soomalida aniga ayan marti galinya” ayuu yiri Jen. Morgan oo ku sugan Nayroobi Muqdisho Times click for link

Appeal: Young refugees find their voice through poetry By Severin Carrell 04 January 2004 Writing poetry allows Alwaiya to speak freely. With a poem, the young refugee can conjure up images of her childhood home in Somalia, or the long, bewildering flight into the dark from Mogadishu. Alwaiya Mudhir was six when she was bundled by her father on to a flight to London, with her brother, sister and aunt, to escape the violence and poverty of Somalia. She is now a confident 14-year-old, and is torn between becoming a poet and a psychiatrist. One Night One night I left my home Our whole life changed Old men coughing The next thing I could remember was That it was a very dark night We were very bored travelling place to place WHEN ARE WE EVER GOING TO STOP & SIT!!! By Alwaiya Mudhir, 14 Read full artical here

SmithNwest Brother all the other Somali peace conferences failed because of Abdullahi Yusuf? I think you are giving the old man too much credit. did i say because of him all peace talks failed? this is what i said if you can't recall Abdulahi attended several peace talks which were intended to create a somali government, all failed. will this time different? i don't know why all those conferences that he attended failied. but one reason could be that when Abdulahi (and his sponsors Ethiopian) realised he couldn't achieve the top job he leaves and let the conference fail. Will he let the alleged conference be succeed even if he realises he won't be getting the presidence?

Forget fashion, this is freedom (Filed: 31/12/2003) The Muslim veil has become a hot political issue in France - but Stella White cannot see what the fuss is about. A Catholic from Kent, she explains the joys of the complete cover-up To liberated Westerners, the hijab, or veil, is a stain on womankind. It symbolises the crushing of the female spirit and is the mark of slavery, transforming a woman into a passive lump who is only allowed out of the house to buy her husband's dinner. When faced with this piece-of-cloth-on-legs, English women will often meet the eyes peeking out of the hijab with an expression of pity and sadness. For them, the veil represents a living death. This might also be the feeling of the French authorities, who have decided to ban the hijab in schools, believing that no young girl should have to carry the burden of repression on her tender head. Yet for many, including myself, the veil is not an instrument of coercion, but a means of liberation. Personally, I have never felt so free as I do when I am wearing it. Before you presume that I am regurgitating propaganda from a culture that has brainwashed me, I should point out that I am a Catholic, not a Muslim. I am not from the mysterious East, but am a 32-year-old woman from boring Kent. Nor am I a prude: my life has included spells as an exotic dancer, kissogram and glamour model. Three of my best friends are strippers. I have had relationships with Muslim men, but none of them ever demanded I wear the hijab; in fact, they found my behaviour slightly embarrassing. There is nobody in my past that has coerced me to wear a veil. I do so simply because I love it. I relish the privacy; the barrier that the hijab creates between myself and the harsh, frenetic world, especially in London. I find a great peace behind the veil: I don't feel invaded by nosy passers-by; the traffic, noise and crowds seem less overwhelming. I can retreat into my own safe world even as I walk and, on a practical level, I feel completely secure from unwanted advances. The hijab is also a financial security system. Like most pedestrians in London, I can't afford to give money to every homeless person I see, but feel stressed and guilty when I walk past them. In my hijab, my conscience can hide. I also feel fairly safe from muggers. Thieves glance at me and probably think, "illegal immigrant; not worth the effort", presuming that my big carrier bags contain only weird, knobbly vegetables for my 16 children. In my hijab, shopping is also cheaper. A small minority of Muslim traders operate a two-tier pricing system with the "one of us" price being considerably lower than the price for Westerners. If I want a bargain, I make sure I am "hijabbed-up". The most amazing effect of wearing the veil is that you automatically seem to become a member of the Muslim community and are accorded all of the privileges and dignity of a Muslim woman. When I walk into a Muslim shop, a man will say to me, gently, "Salaam aleikum [peace be upon you]. How can I help you, madam?" On the bus, Muslim men from Africa, the Middle East or the Far East will move aside for me and say, "After you, sister." The offices, bars and clubs of London are full of English girls in short skirts and strappy sandals, many of them looking for love. Women who wear the hijab, often despised by the West, actually feel sorry for these Western women who have to harm themselves with crippling high heels, skin-choking make-up and obsessive dieting in order to find a man. My Iranian friend Mona is a successful businesswoman who goes out every day looking impeccable, with painted nails, stilettos, sharp suits and perfect make-up. "It was just so much easier when I was in Iran," she says. "You'd get up at nine, throw on your big black hooded dress and jump in the car. Now, I have to spend two or three hours getting done up every morning." Too often, the hijab is dismissed as the preserve of Muslim fundamentalists. But in the Christian tradition, St Paul ordered women to cover their heads and, until the Sixties, no woman would be seen in an English church without a hat and gloves. Many English women wore hats out in the street or headscarves tied under their chin. Hindu and Sikh women are still expected to cover their heads loosely for their honour, or izzat, and Orthodox Jewish women have traditionally worn wigs over their real hair to conceal it from men who are not their husbands. Yet, among all these cultural groups, only Muslim women seem to have been described as weak or oppressed on account of their headgear. Two of the most unlikely bedfellows are the woman who wears a hijab and the militant feminist. When women in the early Seventies began cropping their hair short, and wearing dungarees and comfortable shoes, they were rejecting the idea of suffering for fashion and were refusing to take part in the desperate ritual to attract spoilt, fussy males. Similarly, a woman in a hijab can retain her identity without being a slave to finicky Western notions of beauty. A particularly sad article appeared in a popular women's magazine last week, entitled: "How to hate your body less." I showed it to my Arab friend Malika, who shook her head and said: "In my culture, men are so grateful when they marry a woman that they see her as a gorgeous princess, whatever shape or size she is." Within the hijab, Muslim women know their power and their value. One Muslim man told me: "My wife is like a beautiful diamond. Would you leave a precious diamond to get scratched or stolen in the street? No, you would wrap it in velvet. And that is how the hijab protects my wife, who is more precious to me than any jewel." Of course, if anybody tried to remove my veil or force me to wear it, I would react violently. I am privileged to live in a country in which I can wear whatever I want to. Not all women are so lucky. Personally, I have found in the hijab a kind of guardian angel. My mother, on the other hand, claims that I wear it because I can't be bothered to brush my hair. Daily Telegraph

Originally posted by SmithNwestern: Sooyal, when was he bluffing before? Abdulahi attended several peace talks which were intended to create a somali government, all failed. will this time different? C/llaahi Yuusuf oo muujiyay in rajo wanaagsan ay ka qabaan in horaanta sanadkan ay ku dhawaaqaan dowlad. jury is out!

are somali women catching up fast in this department?

This looks like sounds personal opinion of yet another individual who has just realised Somaliland is here to stay. if that is the case then the guy needs to visit other parts of somalia to fill his knowledge gab so he can offer more informed opinion.

Col. C/llaahi Yuusuf “Waa naga go’aan kama dambeys ah oo aan dib loogu noqoneyn haddii.. Nairobi Madaxweynaha maamul goboleedka Puntland Col. C/llaahi Yuusuf oo ay soo xiganeysay BBC-da laanteeda af-ka Soomaaliga, ayaa sheegay in hogaamiyayaasha ka qeybgalaya shirka Kenya ay ka go’an tahay haddii IGAD & beesha caalamku ku adkeystaan kordhinta tirada hogaamiyayaasha ka qeybgalaya shirka 9-ka January in ay isaga baxayaan shirka, wuxuuna intaa ku daray in iyagu (hogaamiyayaasha shirka ku sugan) ay ogol yihiin 24-kii hogaamiye ee saxiixay heshiiskii colaad joojinta ee Eldoret & C/qaasim Salaad, balse aysan aqbali doonin wax uu C/llaahi Yuusuf ku tilmaamay hogaamiyayaal aysan jirin cid dooratay & cid ay metelaan toona, sidoo kale, wuxuu C/llaahi Yuusuf xusay in uu rajo wanaagsan ka qabo in 25-kaas hogaamiy ay xal u heli karaan Soomaaliya haddii buu yiri ay miyir qabaan. “Waa naga go’aan kama dambeys ah oo aan dib loogu noqoneyn in aan shirka isaga baxeyno haddii IGAD ay kordhiso tirada hogaamiyayaasha” ayuu yiri C/llaahi Yuusuf oo intaa ku daray in shirkooda ay ku dhameysanayaan meel kasta oo nabadda oo gudaha Soomaaliya ah “Dalkayagii baan tegeynaa oo ku dhameystireynaa qeybaha dhiman, dabadeedna adduunka ayaan ka codsaneynaa in ay na aqoonsadaan” ayuu yiri C/llaahi Yuusuf oo muujiyay in rajo wanaagsan ay ka qabaan in horaanta sanadkan ay ku dhawaaqaan dowlad. Dayniile Cabdishakuur Cilmi Xasan ,Dayniile Muqdisho

Armed Woman Kills One Person In Mogadishu December 31, 2003 HornAfrik. Mogadishu Somalia A Somalia woman armed with Ak47 has opened fire and killed a man in Tokyo village in Mogadishu on Wednesday. According to local sources, the woman was in bitter dispute with another woman and there fore she took her husband's gun as he was away from home. The local sources added that the deceased man was playing a mediatory role between the tow women. "He tried to take the gun from the armed women but she opened fire and shot him twice at head and a chest leaving him dead" one eyewitness told HornAfrik. Local residents have surprised the incident which is rare in Somalia's society. HornAfrik

looooooooooooooooooooool waa wacdaraha aduunyadee! how to solve this problem? i think just ask arabs i.e. jordan etc.

Nevertheless, recognizing Somaliland would be a strong signal to the rest of Africa that performance matters and that sovereignty granted in the 1960s will not be an excuse to fail forever. true isn't it?

i think the concept of rape in the west is very different then what we used to know in Somalia.. in somalia only violent rape is considered as rape, even the society needs to be convinced that this kind of rape is rape. now violent rape is very high in somalia and if the victim mentions then the reprisals maybe worse. not all somalia is same though. in the west many somali men get away with it because criminals are send to somalia before the law reaches them. so denial is not the answer let us discuss solutions. I believe jail is not right solution maybe re-education, therapy or other things may work.

“Somaliland’s proclamation of independence cannot be endorsed by the Arab League unless approved through a referendum held in the North as well as the South.” is this an artical in arab league's constitution or is it the wish of this guy.

Nur looooooooooooooooooool that was good piece of humuor. is there any more coming in the new year. i realy enjoyed so thanx.

xidiga waqooyi ... but u know how it is, if the guy was english they would'nt say it i think media is media any story that make the headlines they will go for it. secondly have you fellowed Ian Hantly (soham murder) story, they talked the evil things that man did and showed his true picture. so if brother does something wrong then its the duty of the media to inform the public. as Ameenah said the sooner we come to terms with the better for our community. the solution starts when the problem is recognised.

Originally posted by Alisomali: Look here Samuri and Sophist, PLEASE for gods sake stop using those big words. Yall sound very smart, dont get me wrong @ the same time half the ppl on here dont understand what the heck you say half the time i socond to Alisomali guys you losing lot of audience.