Puntland should follow da same steps as der fellow bruvaz in Waqooyi Galbed n fight for independancy?? why not if the people of puntland decide to go it alone its upto them. but its very vital for pl people to think hard before going that route because problems that somalians face are mega-problems and only sovereignty can't solve.

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what i'm hearing and reading about the peace process must be too good to be true and its similar to what other somalians think of the process. We only belief when they formally announce the conclusion of 2nd face and start the 3rd face. but nothing wrong to be an optimist.

looooooool Puntland + ONLF vs. Somaliland & USC is this re-run of old qabiil alliences. i think both groups that oppose in Las Anood have tendency to widen up their disagreement. there is no need to spread the fire a simple solution is, was and always be let the people of Las Anood decide their future. I don't think for a moment LA problem could be solved by elian arms that come from as far places as Hargeysa or Galkayo. Even if one side wins this time around it is no grauntee a future solution will be reached. so its wise for the two admins to take the route of negotiations and not tooting guns. Just look similar places where there are border disagreements eg. Northern Ireland, Badme, Kashmir to mention but few. the mighty army of British couldn't solve the problem and crush the IRA. in fact brithish govt come to the conclusion in the last few years that only peace talks can offer a real and lasting solution in NI problem. The Irish govt even removed an article in their constitution that claims NI is part of the Ireland. What about India? its nuclier and its huge army can't solve the problem of kashmiir. now both countries realised what mess they are in and started to talk. Badme! you know what happenned so no need me to explain. the two groups in LA arguement must understand its lose lose situation for the locals when/if war starts but it's win win situation if negotations conducted and the local people owned the process. so use your heads not your guts.

Haaruun Waligaaba, XIN IYO XAASID badanaa. SomaliLand wey jireysaa, makarfoon qaado ama joornaalkasta ku soo qor....Yaase baabiin kara?..Is marji hee Not at all. why you think i'm xaasid iyo xin. This artical is written by somalilander who is very worried about the current political situation in somaliland. so accusation doesn't get you no where but try to respont the contents of the artical. nasir This is a joke sxb no matter what you say somaliland is here to stay , so wakhtiga ha iska lumin oo ma ogtahay ha ku waalan waan ognay waan lasoconaa wana ku tageersanay sxb i must congrutulalte you for this post as you didn't put any offencive words. comeon sxb if you know all those things and accept them its good for you but others may disagree with you like the auther and may need more answers. Both of you please click the link and check its authenticity.

MP sympathises with suicide bombers An MP sparked outrage by saying she would consider becoming a suicide bomber if forced to live like Palestinians. Pro-Israel politicians were incensed by Liberal Democrat Jenny Tonge's remarks. But defiant Dr Tonge, the party's former International Development spokeswoman, stood by the comments. The row echoed that over Cherie Blair's suggestion that bombers felt they had "no hope but to blow themselves up". Dr Tonge, who stands down as MP for Richmond Park at the next election, told a pro-Palestinian lobby that life under Israel could be intolerable. "That sort of thing repeated on a daily basis made me understand how people can become suicide bombers," she said. "I think if I had to live in that situation - and I say that advisedly - I might just consider becoming one myself." Lib Dem leader Charles Kennedy faced calls to make her retract the remarks. However, Dr Tonge was unrepentant. She told Sky News: "From minor things to major things their life does not feel like it is worth living. "What I said was that I do not condone suicide bombers. Nobody can condone them. "But I do understand why people out there become suicide bombers. It is out of desperation. "I dare say if I was in their situation with my children and my grandchildren and I saw no hope for the future at all - which I'm not, of course, but if I did - I might just think about it myself." Labour peer Lord Janner, chairman of the Holocaust Educational Trust, said the bombers were terrorists opposed to peace between the two sides. "For a member of either House of this Parliament to say she has sympathy with it, I think is awful." James Purnell, currently leading a delegation of fellow Labour MPs to Israel, said Mr Kennedy must make Dr Tonge retract her remarks and make it clear they were not party policy. click for link

not all SOL members are qabilists but we have to recognise the complexity of somali politics and loyalties. whenever there is political crisis in somalia then SOL nomads reflect that and use SOL as therapy to them. SOL will never become like Somalinet because here we have hardworking moderators. i myself had one post removed but i never complained as i accepted their judgement.

mr ceelbuur and wind talker its my pleasure sxb. we have to recognise and value our hard working people back home whether be xamar or anywhere else in somalia. i think xamar is city of two tales but there is emarging civil society that is working very hard by itself to fill the gabs left by lack of central govt. i think we spent lot of time focusing the bad news and ignore all the positive work done by our people. its true the security in mogadisho is not as it should be but its improving. private schools, universities, hospitals, telecommunications, factories, airways, newspaper, radios, tvs etc are making very big prograss. so it isn't bad at all.

IYADOON DADKA LEYSKU DILAN SOMALILAND HA LA BAABIIYO Waxa cad in rag dalka somaliland ka taliyaa ayna jeclayn jiritaankeeda. Waxa iyana xaqiiq ah inaan dadweynahu dhankii loo eryaba u yaaci doonaan. Riyaale rag doortay iskamay dooran ee waa xeelad hoose oo lagu burburinaayo dalka. Bal isweydiiyo maxaa Riyaale, uu geeridii Cigaal laba wiig dabadeed ugu kacay Jabuuti. Maxuu ka keenay. Maxaa soo Celiyey Qaybe, Maxaa uu u dhoofay Cabdiqadir Jirde isagoo Jaamacad ka galay dalkan Ingiriiska. Maxaa Ismaaciil ****** iyo Cawil wasiirada ugu culus ka dhigay. Maxay afkooda xumaha uga dhowri waayaan. Sow markay hadlaanba arinku ma aha isku *** beelaad iyo mid xisbi. Maxaa UDUB ka dhigay ragii shalayto u ololaynaayey Somaliweyn. Maxaa Cismaan Kalluun soo ceshay, maxuu ula kulmay Qaybe. Maxaa maxkamadda sare u dhiibay ninka shallayto ka tirsanaa maamulka Cabdillahi Yuusuf. Maxaa taliyaha biliiska ka dhigay nin ka tirsanaa Kooxda Carta. Maxaa dilalka dalka ka dhacay cid uun loogu xukumi waayey. Ma ogtahay in afhayeenka Suldaamada Koonfur u olaleeya ay Ismaaciil ****** horyowalaal yihiin, sidoo kale ma ogtahay in Cabdiqadir Jirde isna la horyowalaal yahay labadooda. Ma ogtahay in Qaybe iyo Cawil ilmaabti yihiin.M aogtahay in Wasiirka debedda Edna ay haysato jinsiyadda Jabuuti, kuna degto guriga madaxweyne. Ma ogtahay in Riyaale iyo Geele ay isu abti yihiin. Ma ogtahay in afada Riyaale uu bti u yahay Wasiiska Hawlaha Guud ee Jabuuti. a ogtahay in saanad iyo lacag la siiyey Cadde Muuse ay toos ugu gacan gashay Cabdillahi Yuusuf. Ma ogtahay in Riyaale lacagta dawladda cidii uu doono siiyo bilaa xisaab. Ma ogtahay in la baabiiyey Hayada Hantidhowrka. Maxaa loo eryey Taliyaashii ciidamada: Xasan Yoonis iyo Cabdisamed. Yaa lagu bedelay....Ma kula tahay iyadoo Laascanood lagu duulaayo in Abaanduulaha Ciidan noqdo nin degaankaas ka soo jeeda. Hadaba aragti gaaban aan ku koobi waxa socda: Arrinku waa Somaliland dab ha laga sudho meel kasta, ha kala cararto deedna IYADOON TASHAN HA KU DHACDO DABIN QORSHAYSAN. Jabuuti waa u diyaar inay si hawl yar ku qabsato Saylac oy wax badan sheegatay.Riyaalena waa u diyaar inuu Boorame ciidan xoogan ku daafaco. Hadday hawshi si kale u dhacdo, maxaa ******** u diiday inay la bahowdo Jabuuti, sida Laas. ay ula bahowday Puntland. Waa shax irmaan....dadkan wax yarbaa garanaaya...Haddaba intaan la burburin ee xoog la yahay dadku ha tashado. Dawladda maanta jirta waa mid meel waliba dhaamayso. Bal akhriso warbixinta Bankiga Adduunka. oo eeg sida Xamar oo dagaal maalin walba ka socdaa uga hormarsantay Hargeysa... Bal eeg inta Idaacad hor ah ka furan...bal u fiirso xakamaynta saxaafadda. Waar amba dawlad tayo leh ha la helo, amba intaynaan burburin aan tashano. Ahmed Mohamed Abdi ahmedsomali1960@yahoo.co.uk click here for full artical

Overcoming anarchy, Somalis struggle to start private schools Somalis are trying to start schools from preschool to medical school, banking on eventual national stability. BY CHRIS TOMLINSON Associated Press MOGADISHU, Somalia - In a communal goat stable, children sit under a mango tree, learning to read and write. A few feet away, in an old storage room, a clan elder teaches older children verses from the Koran, the Muslim holy book. In this narrow alleyway of Mogadishu, where three or four generations of Somalis share small homes, education is getting a second chance. After more than a decade of anarchy, only about one in six children of primary school age attends school, according to a U.N. survey released last week. Somalia is best known as a home for murderous warlords and suspected terrorists and as the place where a U.S.-led military effort to pacify and feed the country ended in fiasco. But the vast majority of Somalis desperately want stability, including better relations with the United States. Peace talks are underway, although the men with guns have failed to reach a power-sharing agreement. Meanwhile, parents, teachers and aid agencies have managed to piece together a private education system from preschool to medical school. Parents scrape together what money they can to pay the teachers at the makeshift schools a few dollars a month. Wealthier families send their children to more formal schools or bring the teachers into their homes. While some schools receive support from overseas, most are the work of local people with local problems. Some Arab donors have tried to introduce extremist ideas into the schools they fund. But Somali clerics resolutely cling to a moderate brand of Islam. ''We accept nothing from anyone. We are running our own schools,'' said Mohammed Issa Mohammed, an elder who manages 18 Koranic schools. Ali Ahmed Farah is headmaster of Jabuti school, partially funded by the Ireland-based charity Concern Worldwide. He said the problem is that people cannot afford school fees. Most children spend their days at home or scavenging through abandoned buildings and garbage dumps for food and valuables. ''Children in Somalia are either learning or looting,'' said Abdulrachman Abdullahi, chairman of trustees for Mogadishu University. The university now has 6,000 students enrolled in nine programs, including engineering, nursing, agriculture and computer science. Somali professors from Ohio University teach in Mogadishu. In 2003, Somali doctors and former university professors restarted Banadir University's medical school. Half of 22 the students are women, a remarkably high percentage for a male-dominated society. The medical school was desperately needed because Somalia has only 250 doctors, compared with 960 in 1991. Mogadishu University is building a 20-acre campus north of the city, and educators predict that if peace is reached and a stable government returns, students will enthusiastically fill classrooms again. click here for link

Annan expresses concern over mounting tension in the north NAIROBI, 21 Jan 2004 (IRIN) - United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan has expressed deep concern over rising tension in northern Somalia between the self-declared republic of Somaliland and the self-declared autonomous region of Puntland over the disputed region of Sool. Both Somaliland and Puntland claim the regions of Sool and Sanaag as theirs, and there have been reports of troop build-ups and preparations for conflict. A statement read by the Secretary-General's spokesman, Fred Eckhard, said: "The Secretary-General is deeply concerned by the increased tension between the administrations of 'Puntland' and 'Somaliland' over Las Anod in Sool Region, which threatens the outbreak of hostilities at a critical time in the Somali peace process." The statement went to say that Annan was calling on the two sides "to exercise utmost restraint and to refrain from the use of force", and urging them to seek solutions through dialogue. Tension has been rising between the two sides ever since Puntland forces took control of the Sool regional capital, Las Anod, late last month. Sool and Sanaag fall geographically within the borders of pre-independence British Somaliland, but most of the clans there are associated with clans in Puntland. Awad Ahmad Ashara, Puntland's spokesman, told IRIN that armed conflict seemed imminent. Annan called on the parties to protect civilians and ensure unimpeded access to humanitarian assistance. According to the statement, the secretary-general called on all the "Somali parties to reach agreement on national reconciliation that would put an end to all the fighting and bloodshed in the country." Talks sponsored by the Inter-Governmental Authority on Development with a view to bringing peace to Somalia have been going on in Kenya for over a year. However, the talks have been dogged by wrangles over issues such as an interim charter, the number of participants in the negotiations and the selection and number of future parliamentarians. click here for link

bad drawing is enough boy its also wrong concept. is this what col. yusuf dictated to you? what LA problem got to do with pres Gelle of Djabouti miyeysan ahayn "Aabow kan yar iga celi kan weyn aniga ayaa iska celinaayo"

Mr. Abdillahi Yusuf is man who squandered his entire adult life in a military uniform; fighting wars, mainly guerilla wars, civil wars and violent armed confrontations with his political opponents. he is not giving up soon, is he? I belief all of these are battles he won some of them and lost some but his biggest test yet to come in the form of kenyan peace proccess and sool crisis. if he overcomes then he wins this struggle against his opponents. if he loses then that concludes one all whole chapter of somali warlordism.

this seems to me a desperate party that is trying to evert a war which their militia started in the first place. Somaalida ayaa waxay ku maahmaahdaa 'Afeef hore lahoow ama Adkeysi dambe yeelo'.

UN 'to explore Iraqi elections' Shia Iraqis are demanding direct elections The United Nations is considering sending a team to Iraq to explore whether credible elections could be held before power is transferred. After talks with Iraq's interim leaders in New York, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said the UN would have a "role to play" in Iraq from July onwards. The US has sought the return to Iraq of UN staff withdrawn after bomb attacks. Earlier in Baghdad, thousands of Shia Muslims marched against coalition plans for an appointed government. click for full artical

Faction fighting kills 13 in Somalia At least 13 people were killed and 27 have been wounded in two days of ongoing inter-clan fighting in central Somalia, local officials and witnesses said on Monday. Fighting erupted Sunday between rival militiamen of the Galjel subclan of the larger ****** group, said Abdullahi Abdi Koffi, the deputy district commissioner in the town of Beletwein. "Ten people were killed early on Monday while three others died late on Sunday," Koffi told AFP by telephone from the town. "Elders who attempted to stop the violence and arrange a ceasefire said that warring sides have refused to listen to them," Koffi said, adding that the fighting was continuing on Monday. Militia sources and elders in the Somali capital confirmed the fighting, the latest in a series of tit-for-tat confrontations between the rival sides and which are rooted in earlier feuds. Inter-clan fighting is common in Somalia, which has lacked a central government since dictator Mohamed Siad Barre was toppled in 1991. The regional Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) has been sponsoring peace talks in the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, aimed at ending anarchy and bloodshed in the Horn of Africa country. click here for link

Kenya urges end to Somaliland, Puntland tension NAIROBI, Jan 19 (Reuters) - Kenya said on Monday growing tension between two rival regions of neighbouring Somalia could destabilise talks in Nairobi aimed at bringing peace to the whole of the ruined Horn of Africa country. At least two people in the breakaway enclave of Somaliland were killed in fighting between the forces of Somaliland and its rival Puntland earlier this month. The two territories have fought sporadic clashes for years over the ownership of several eastern areas of Somaliland that Puntland's leaders claim as their own on the basis of ethnicity. Aid workers have also expressed concern at the tension. "I would like to call upon both parties to exercise maximum restraint and shun from plunging the region into a conflict that is clearly avoidable," Kenyan Foreign Minister Kalonzo Musyoka told a news conference. "The tension between the two administrations of Somaliland and Puntland has potential of degenerating the region into an imminent confrontation, as well as undermining the positive conclusions of the ongoing Somali consultative meeting ... and the reconciliation conference in general." He was referring to peace efforts that Kenya has hosted for more than a year aimed at ending bloodshed and chaos in the Horn of Africa country of more than seven million people. War and famine have killed hundreds of thousands of people in the past decade in Somalia, torn apart by rival clan militias since the overthrow of former dictator Mohamed Siad Barre. Somaliland leaders are not involved in the peace gathering, saying they have no intention of reuniting Somaliland with the rest of Somalia. A former British protectorate, Somaliland split unilaterally from Somalia in 1991 after a long independence struggle, taking advantage of the chaos that followed the fall of Barre. The independence of the normally peaceful enclave has never been recognised by the international community, something which rankles with many ordinary people and with the government. Puntland, currently ruled by Ethiopian-backed military strongman Abdullahi Yusuf, broke away from Somalia in 1998 to escape the militia anarchy of southern and central Somalia click here for link

waxaa layiri shimbir baa bari dabqaadey oo waxay ku gubtay gurigii hooyadeed. insteed of shooting the bad guys they killed one of the few good men in that area. it must be for them a bad debut.

Originally posted by Modesty: of what Kilroy said was out of hatred and racism towards Arabs, it wasn't very logical as he said 'all Arabs' not 'some Arabs'. this is some of his gereralisation which agree the Arab countries are not exactly shining examples of civilisation,are they? we all make generalisations such as amaricans hate muslims, they -galo put our dictators on us, they choose our leaders for us and so forth. so why is he different?

one has to be familiar with the concept of “flies”. at least you're all awake now and discuss things sensibly without abusing each other. after my post you changed even the tone. no more anaa kaa fiican iyo anaga ayaa wax eh. maybe that is what is needed back in lascaano. third part who is ready to spoil the two Col's dream into the new political reality of the region.

it looks nice hotel. At least some people are investing in our country.

thanx sxb. nice pics but i can't see my favourite part of the city -where i was born and grew up.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: My father and C/rashiid Cali Sharmaarke aa hilfaha u laabay maskiinka Aaden Cadde looool@u siyaadna USC ayaa hilfaha u laabtey. At least Adan cade's time democratic process was working.

Horn thanx for the pic. they speak volume and it shows that when SRRC sponsor the Ethiopians are out of the picture then these people can sitdown and talk. I wonder whether a/yusuf escaped from the hands of zanawi?

war ilaan tan oo kale yaa arkey. war sow yaab maaha. ilaan haddii somalilands iyo putlands ay murmaan wixii dhowrka posts ee ugu horeeyo ka danbeeyo ileen way asaasaqaan oo cay iyo anaa kaa fiican bey isku yiraahdaan. now they reached new low where one party congratulate themselves and their ancestors by forcing other party to keep their islamic beleifs and somali identity. while other party demands respect from them because they and their ancestors were the true civilised people who educated their opponents. could any of you tell me what this got to do with offering solution to puntland/somaliland equivalent of northern Ireland situation?