People why are you all attacking alle-ubaahne for wanting to preserve his bloodline. For your information, even i am a decendent of a great but unknown hero Alle-ubaahne maandhoow waaba lagu wareeriyee see wax u jiraan>?

^^Sis we have some linguistic nerds, they know who they are and they better show up before i name names I'm sure they can find it in their brainy conciences to help us understand the meanings of the songs, with qaraami songs they have intresting stories behind them and the meaning is very well thought out i have been told.

^^ well said, though i have to stop agreeing with u all the time Khayr though it is hard to disagree with your point, as you use quite many quotes to back it up, i think that rationally thinking there are other things than a house which pose a threat to our imaan and our concience. Renting is alright but with landlords having the upper hand they can evict you at will or ask for more money and generally make a tenant's life difficult if they so wish. Don't look at it from investment's point of view, but from that of a family. Hving some security is crusial in family life and living in a house you own, or will own eventually gives a little bit of assurance in a cruel world. If it serves as an investment, well that is just a bonus. And besides, considering the fact that the brother is worrying about the best xalaal way to go about it instead of the mortgage route, i would say that his concience isnt pushed back by dollar signs. Allah comes before everything, and no material gain is enough to replace religion but you can't say that because of the personal interest one has to stop any kind of ambition to better life in this world. Allah provides but we have to work hard for his provision on earth and for the here after....That's just my point of view. As for the patriots wanting villas back home, it is easy to talk abt ur intention of investing back home when you are safe and sound in some part of the world away from somalia. If you are serious go and set an example, but the reality remains that it is dangerous for many ppl to consider going back home. So think about the substance of your words and not at the image it projects, cos without the action backing it up it is futile.

Nice topic nuune, but let's modify the game by making those that get qaraami songs explain it to those who are lyrically challenged like myself. Here is a song gabal daye. And the challenge is to give a meaning of the song. Explain the story behind it and give lyrics, if you have the time. That is, of course, assuming that some of you can rise to the challenge

waaw rudy it seems that you have left a lasting impresion Tell the soon to be rabbit boiler your wife does karate and has been known to break chicken necks

You know, days/weeks go by without me thinkin of that woman. If something bad happened to her, i would probably think she got her just desert. But otherwise, she doesn't exist for me. It upsets me when i think abt the many muslims facing difficulties because of her and it angers me, but as for everything she says... Ppl Islam is too great and big for any one woman to tackle. Also Allah created us and everything around us so i dare say no words spoken by that which he created will reach let alone tarnish our great and merciful creator. Ps: wlc silly

lol@rudy, alla are u asking help when you say got the reality version, u wanna help me!! every nite is a new adventure!! what in the world!! :eek: I'm sending your wife kal, much like a steel basebal bat, if not bigger ok, going back to topic, i was curious abt this new show, but at the end of it i jst can't b bothered with shows that take a night out of my week, i can become resentful when i think abt being infront of the tv every wednesday at 9

loool@you chauvinist. You should have just said "listen yeah, i've dug a hole for aj to fall into yeah, so shuush and let us men handle our busines" For a chauvinist you are highly chivalrous, defending the unknown ms and all

This topic would have been a good one to discuss, as to how to deal with the slipping morals of our society. But instead it was turned into the online equivalent of the clown throwing a cake into the face of the serious guy in the front row, though in this case there were many clowns. AJ I do agree with you, from what you have told us these two youngsters are in way over their heads and the girl should have had more common sense. Yes chauvinist, the girl. We girls are brought up to not trust any guy unless we are married to him and I guess in a time of “gender equality†that teaching isn’t being well received. But then again, I’m basing my opinion on the little that I have read about these two people, so I will condemn the act but not the people in question. SomeAlien you have spoken wisely, AJ now that you are aware of at least the surface of what is going on it is up to you to take on the role of big brother. It is one thing to look at something bad and frown on it, but I think if the situation is as dire as depicted then a certain responsibility falls on your shoulders to tell the guy off and have a friendly, non lecture talks with the girl. Maybe her parents don’t know where she is. If she wants to be with the guy, assuming that they are more than “friends†then direct them into the right path of engagement.

Nafta en juxa, ik ben mezelf in al die jaren niet of nooit geweest! Thank you all, this thread has cheered me up in my old age. I woulda thanked u yesterday, only I was at immigrations office changing, ehm, some details and data’s. Many of you hinted at my age and I will overlook those remarks, Jackson, and the open question, femme. And as for you duke, it comforts me to know that no matter how old I am you will always b 2 decades older. Now let me impart some of my wisdom unto you unsuspecting youths. Whatever your family wants you to do with your life, just do it. That way when you mess everything up you have a scapegoat, and more importantly, family members will feel so guilty that they will do anything you want Ps: for all UK residents juxa will be taking us out for three course meal this Sunday, so pm her with ur details and any specific dining requirements you may have, cos its her treat! If you live outside of London, your travelling cost will be reimbursed by juxa herself

orgi that woman is my hero. My fave episode is when they buy a country "house" which basically consists of a castle that is devided into apartments and they get an apartment that is on the top floor and so small they have to squeze to fit in. In one of those times when she and richard have to squeze past one another in the hall she tells him I don't like this level of intamacy, dear. I don't think it's natural at our age. Would you please remove yourself from my person?

my quote of the day would have to be fom keeping up appearences. as hyacinth told her beloved I should have thought postmen would be trained to recognize first-class stamp houses."

Are u guys tellin me u never heard of halaal dating :eek: ileen sol is full of damiinyaal :rolleyes: HALAAL DATING a dating session consistant of the guy the girl and both their respective mothers. If the date doesn't work out, both reputations are upheld by the mothers and there is an amicable farewell. f the guy and girl do hit it off, a second date is arranged chaperoned by eedoyaal, than a third by married cousins and this trend continues untill the guy and girl are engaged and can go off alone on dates Im jst joking ppl, so dnt all attack at once

Femme, quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ppl seriously, i dont think anyone would air their private life on the web, so lets take it with a pinch of salt. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S. If that is your definition of "love" then I shudder to think what you would do when you "hate". abaayo who said anything abt love? Perhaps u have mistaken me with another nomad As for the topic, it is very funny, imagine xaawo chasing yalaxoow around the neighbourhood with an umbrella

Is he your brother or your husband? Who is dadda's little boxer angel then Ppl seriously, i dont think anyone would air their private life on the web, so lets take it with a pinch of salt. Finesista-Get him kickboxing lessons to even the field

Wiilo iyaan aa la isoo dilay by gabdho aan isku dugsi eheen. My defence is in eey iskugu keey tageen Amaadba adi kaabo u eheed, gabadhi waxa qaban qaabisay sidi wiilasha eey u dhib badneedee

Oh bee, now you have gone and done it, breaking down the dam of misery. Ah the underground and the many over priced horrible memories I have of it. Usually I avoid it cos I’m slightly claustrophobic but when I’m running late I have no choice but to dig deep into my faqiir pocket and pay up. I hate people who run after a departing train, and I love it when they have just about reached the door and it closes narrowly missing out on a nose job This one morning the buses were running late and I opted for the underground, not very smart cos everyone did the same. We were stacked into the train, grown ups fitting themselves into spaces children wouldn’t fit in. and the sadistic driver took his time with closing the doors. Just when the little bell rang announcing the closing of the doors, with the two sides half way there, a hand was pushed through and pried them open. We were annoyed and it was written on the faces of everyone, we were whole heartedly hoping he would be dragged along the platform, just to teach him a lesson, the silly twat. Anyway, he pushed into all of us and squeezed his big frame into a non-existing space, squashing the human made wall even further back into the other side. And as luck would have it the driver was a preacher. He started lecturing on safety hazards and how stup!d the man was while we were standing tired and without oxygen. As if we cared if the guy got dragged into the tunnel, we would at least be moving. That day I swore off the underground, but somehow I always end up running into a nearby station. Another thing, why do suicide jumpers choose peak hour to kill themselves? Selfish bastads, if they wish to die they should do it in their own time. It sounds horrible, but it isn't particularly nice to have to go around london to find new route that will take u home

Ngonge, i haven't had the pleasure of a street dog,ehm, showing me affections on LT yet, but i did get caught betwen two prams with mad mothers giving me dirty look as if i was the one taking up all the space. Oh how i hate oap's and mothers with children with more bagages than they kno wwhat to do with. And they only travel during the peak hours Xu i feel ur pain, once there was a guy with an Elvis haircut and a guitar. I was suspicious but kept the hope alive when he remained seated for a whole 5 mins. But that was in vain as he got up to strut his stuff. As if subjecting us to his bad kareoke wasn't bad enough, he actually tried to make us pay for it :eek: Actually, Lt is a source of adventure, imagine how boring life would be if everything went without a glitch

My neighbourhood was yaaqshiid the fourth house from hotel al xarameeyn just of jidka sodonka. Who knows, maybe i'll find gabdhihi i bully gareey jireen those were the happy days

^^tut tut tut ma saas baad nationalist ku tahay

The person that made it needs to test his/herself..Olive oil kulahaa, saliid macsaro mala ilaaway Here's my score, You scored a 62% on the "How Somalian are you?" Quizie! 345 people had a score lower than yours 316 people had a score higher than yours 44 people had a score the same as yours The test was based too much on stereotypes, but all my answers were yes, except that there wasn't a family member i didn't know ps:honesty what was ur score?

My beloved journeys on the London buses have taken a turn for the worst in the measurement of annoyance that I had to bring back this topic. In this case though, it is to do with the virtues of common manners. Londoners who travel by public transport will know the pain of our existence are fellow travellers. Two days ago I was running late for a meeting and had missed the bus that would have delivered me in time. Luckily enough another one came in the next four minutes and I was relieved to say the least. Anyway it was around the time when schools have their lunch hour and the streets were crawling with teenagers holding bags filled with chicken n chips and their loud boisterous voices could be heard in all corners of the streets. But it was a scene I was used to and I tuned it out. After all, they had nothing to do with me. Or so I would have thought. Our bus arrived in Angel where many people got of and the driver was waiting for an old woman to get one when Somali teenagers started using the backdoor as entrance. They were in a large group and headed straight for the upper deck. We were al perplexed at their daring and annoyed with them. We all knew what would happen, and it did happen. The driver turned off the engines and told them to get off and they refused. Some went and came back for their friends. When the driver gave up and closed the door, they decided that they didn’t want to be on the bus and used the emergency button to open the door. All this took up 15 minutes of our time. There was a Jamaican man who kept telling them “look at your face, you have no character mon, you have no characterâ€. The white people were looking away in embarrassment and our youth were talking slang with the girls wearing tight clothes and bright coloured hair and the guys with their afro and careless attitudes, telling people “listen yeah, we just goin two stops from here yeah, why u chucking it for man, with ur melodrama, wha’eva u ge’ meâ€. By then I was thinking about those who say “bloody immigrants/asylum seekers, you invite them in and they take over the countryâ€. More than seeing their point, I was actually agreeing with it. When organisations like the BNP start becoming popular, people blame it on institutionalised racism and so on. The truth of the matter is that people only know what they see. How can the parents be respected for their achievements when our youths are behaving in such an appalling way in front of everyone? At the end of the day, the bad things are more evident than the good. So why aren’t our children disciplined and mannered? Anyway, those identity crisis crippled Somali teenagers made me miss my appointment and basically wasted my time. Bloody uncivilized savages :mad:

Simply, it is interesting question, one that can be answered either hypocritically or honestly. Many may say something like "how can I respect an unwed mother", to be quite honest, that would have been my first reaction. Or perhaps even comment on how an unwed Somali mother is unheard of, or uncommon. To be quite honest, some girls are misled by their own naiveté and end up pregnant though they should have known better. Many of those choose to take the easy way out and not “pay†the penalty for their actions by getting rid of their unborn child. The girls who are conscientious enough to make the hard decisions will be paying for their mistakes by our society’s condemnation, even though they faced the consequences and had the child. What I’m trying to say is basically that although married teenage mothers are more respected, the unwed mothers deserve respect for sticking to one belief and value held by all of us, that value being that an innocent child shouldn’t have to pay for the sins of the parent. After all, isn’t the fact that she is an unwed mother punishment enough?

To quote a line from Shakespeare’s Troilus and Cressida “thou picture of what thou seemest, and idol of id!ot worshippers"...the bard sure had a way with words

Alisaleeban you have a good point. I’m not condoning how he divorces them and neither will I condemn him for it. No matter what the reasons for his marriage were, we only know what we read in that article. Juba, that means that we don’t know that he beats his wives or that he has a favourite, didn’t he tell them all they were his fave? And besides, he has three wives he never divorces and a fourth that he changes, as we are told. This would seem in bad taste, but he isn’t married to 58 women at once, now that would be the evil thing. As for smartly and selectively quoting me, juba you would do a politician proud. Hate it or love it, you have to accept that if a man can afford to keep four wives he can have them. You can kick and scream bloody murder, but it doesn’t change his rights. At times there are those that take that right to the limit like the guy in question, but that can only be expected in the most unusual cases. And farxan, it is true, sons are preferred to daughters but at least he has the money to provide for his family, though they may be large. We know from the article that 2 sons work for him and that many of his children have met each other in schools, which leads to an obvious conclusion that needn’t be explained. The only thing they lack is an attentive father, and they are not the only ones in this world without such a father. Many of you have an image of a father who takes his sons to football practise and his daughters dress shopping in his free time, I guess we have the cosby show to thank for that image. But as far as we know ex wives have been well compensated for and even attend some of his weddings bearing gifts. Also, it is a given that he is a show off, I’m not excusing him. But neither will I take what the article said and fill in the blanks with help of my imagination. As for bringing up some of our men who do it, it is the truth, there are some who would put this guy to shame. Who can’t provide for the wife and kids that they have and who still marry someone younger. That actually happens more often than an Arab playboy with 54 ex wives and 4 current ones.