^^who you calling old, you cheeky cow! Hiya moth, wlc and make urself at home

Wlc to all new-comers, like with all families, each new member is a welcome addition Adnaan go to your private messages inbox, in there there is a link to your personal profile, on the top left hand corner of that page i think.

^^^ Thanks for the correction. Haddad, is it me or are you thanking yourself for correcting BOB? :confused:

lol, well it sure beats having to face an angry woman in a house full with potentially lethal weapons! Just imagine, no more flying cups full of steaming tea, no more the traditional chase with knife thru the neighbourhood, no more the tetanus injection for the 38 bites inflicted on the man that have become infected flesh wounds..

In that particular drama, the biological father had a powerful argument, that the baby was going to be a black man longer than he was going to be a baby.And that he needs to see black people around him to know that it's ok to be black, instead of being told by white people that it was ok, while he was growing up in a white society. In that particular drama the biological parents got the child, with the birth mother having visitation rights. I thought the white woman was being manipulative because she refused 2 let the black couple see their child so that she had a better claim on him. And then both mothers were allowed to write a letter to the deciding judge, with the white woman telling him how the child called her mamma, which was untrue, and how he couldn't feel happy without having her around. Anyway, that programme was thought provoking and I seriously don't know what I would do if i was in that position, having a baby that wasn't mine versus a baby that was mine but that i didn't have

xiinfaniin, your moods don't concern me and as such shouldn't be indulged on my account. Concidering the fact that you have never crossed paths with me I find your over familiarity with my person quite invasive. I'm sure you will agree that commenting on someone's personality while you have never interacted with them is highly dubious, so with that in mind I will thank you to remove my name from your post. Unless of course you want to insult me further more by refusing a friendly request? I'm sure you won't disappoint, "gorgeousness"

Oh mijn lieve heer, Nafta, meid sinds wanneer wordt je bemind door een gozer die alleen maar in een schaak spel geintresseert is>? Oh ja, en trouwens, je wilt gewoon moeilijk doen maar diep in je hart weet je heus wel dat je alleen maar voor mij bent terug gekomen Checkmate, bro do you miss caanihi tubada ka socday? I miss the liquorice they made in NL, i used to always have a packet in my bag

^^Het werd hoogst tijd dat je ophield met verstoppetje spelen zeg! Rotkind, waar was je voor zo land?! Checkmate, lol, well i've been called many things but never a darling, it would go against my nature

^^^Someone has been googling! Wie is darling als ik vragen mag?

Intresting read bro, the guy in question seems to be working towards something positive for those who become infected. Though I am highly suspicious of the article, it seems to "western" with statements like "if my community had proper information about HIV, they would love positive Somalis again" and stories like When they go for a medical appointment, they are afraid of being seen by another Somali in the waiting room. Many cover their faces. Others, if they see another Somali waiting for the doctor, will go away. Sometimes they’ll try to check with the receptionist if any other Somalis have appointments that day.†Is seems highly unlikely for a Somali person to walk out of a GP office just bcos they might b seen. And then the statement of "Mohamud also runs an Islamic HIV support group and a group for gay Somalis." had me raising my eyebrows. Though I never met a Somali homosexual, I don't think that they would go to a "group counceling" run by a somali. And it makes the whole "positive outreach" story seem a bit of a lark. Call me a pessimist but I somehow don't buy the whole "I embraced my positive status and want to have everyone else do the same". The whole story seems dodgy and depicts somalis in a bad light. Where did they get their figures regarding the affected from? Why are they so keen to put qaad chewing into the HIV positive equation? And why has the guy who is the "emblem" of "being positive and not ashamed of it" not told us how HE himself got infected with the virus? There is something fishy about this tale...

checkmate xaasid aad tahay You think a person who would allow a litle needle to stick into his skin with an ink over a couple of thousand time would have any problems with scrubbing? At least tell him to get sakiin iyo antiseptic. Cut away and apply the antiseptic, applying a piece of cotton and taping it to the skin when finished

I no longer can tell the difference between fact and fiction in sol. And to make matters worse for those as confused as I, people r now using compasses to determine the whereabouts of the isle of relationship bliss? :confused: Leave me out of this, will ya arrogant so n so

lol@sheherazade, how painful! As for tattoos, I read somewhere removing them is very expensive and good clinics charge highly for an efficient removel. So I hope the person removing it has a saving's account s/he can dip into. Would it be inappropriate to say mac sokor caleen shaah?

You are right, quraanshada neh waan dabakici jiray si aan u arko meesha ee u hoyaneeyso As for kir, weligeey ma baran, laakin adaa si fiican u taqaanee kir iyo habiyarteed kut ba ma na bari kartaa

Ina lilaahi wa ina ileeyhi raajicuun. Og girl aabahaa Allah janada ka waraabiyo, may Allah give him eternal frogiveness, aamiin. Abaayo best wishes for both you and your family, may Allah help you pass trough this difficult period.

Tuujiye why do i have this creepy feeling that u speaking from experience? Mise halahaas maskaxdaada lee kasoo aliftay?

I can never understand, what's the point of bringing back old topics? :confused: Is there nothing new that members can contribute that they have 2 go and dig the archives for intresting topics??

IT is a very 21st-century nightmare, spawned at the point where science meets our primal instincts, and technological advances collide with human vulnerability to make our moral compass feel hopelessly out of date. A couple’s struggle to have a child through IVF goes tragically wrong and the woman is inserted with the wrong embryo. The mistake is obvious the moment she gives birth – she and her husband are white, the baby is black. the source . I just watched this programme and it is so shockingly realistic. It is a case of who has more rights to a child, the woman who carried a child for 9months and who gave birth to him or his biological parents? The intresting thing about watching it was "who deserves the support of the court" and i found myself hoping the black couple would win. What do you think?

Good question msword. In my teens I would have answered you Holland because that's where I grew up, where I realised the world around me. I remember everything back home but at the time my main argument was that I had been in Holland longer than I had been in Somalia, my dutch was better than my Somali, almost all of my friends were dutch, it is the place i studied, it was the place where my life was grounded. And then came the whole identity cisis, I had no claim to Holland, I didn't look dutch and my last name wasn't dutch. I still felt at home there, had my friends there, felt comfortable there, but all of these things didn't mean I was dutch. Now I am glad that I'm not dutch, I love most of our traditions. I love the whole "i kacay dhiigaa i kacay" when some1 says or does something to a fellow Somali. My parents' are somalis, my grandparents' and even my great great great grandparents' are somali. And no matter where I am I will always be Somali. I know that wasn't your initial question, but the two are interlinked you see. For home is where your loved ones are, where you know you are always welcome, where you belong. The place where you can go back to and everyone knows you, even though it has been 20 years since you have been there, that is if you have ever been there at all. Having said that, I believe holland to have been my second home. I still am in touch with people I went to primary school with. It is where most of my memories have been made. Many of us have certain loyalties to the places where we grew up. We can have that and still have our identities as Somalis i now believe.

^^Wcs wr wb abaayo. As for your friend's dilema. If I was in such a position I would concentrate on my children as a man who is already considering marriage to another woman in the near/far future, while asking your friend to marry him isn't offering the most stable future for her nor her kids. Your friend's first priority should be her kids, everything else should come second place. It is nice of the guy to be honest with her, but I think your friend would be very naive to fall for the flattering notion of "true love" and be guided by that as it isn't very realistic in her situation as a mother with many responsibilities. Even if she thinks she can cope with her hubby eventually finding another wife right now, she could be overcome with possesiveness when she is in a relationship with the guy. Can your friend live with wondering whether her husband has marriage on his mind everytime she sees him talking to a single female? If she does marry the man I hope you yourself are bound in matrimony as i can imagine your friend wanting to cut off all her single friends.

Caajiib waaye hadii tuujiye la faanihaayo maanta neh. Cunugaan maaba heer oo dadka wax ka sheego gaari kara? soo sol usoo galay tuujis oo ka bixi la'yahay, allah amuuraha u sahlo masaakiinka wax aaba si ka ehee

lol@bee, i am sure it is. And by all means, i'm not judging ppl, but i must admit that i was scandelized to read the easy going revelations in this topic. I am still afraid to walk past a somali owned maqaayad, for fear some eedo will see me and report my "edab daro" to the family, so don't b surprised by my unfashionable reerbaadiyo-nimo

So par-taking of the frowned on and unhealthy habits mostly exhibited by men is a liberation of the feminine being and demolishment of deep running cultural bias?! :confused:

I don't think ppl would reveal their real personality online, i mean why would they adapt to a nick-name if they didn't have the matching pseudo-personality to go along with it? Personally speaking there are some who would enspire me to run as if i was in the london marathon if our paths knowingly crossed, their assumed airs online are so that i can't help but wonder how their true nature depicts their assumed one....

righty-ho old chap, it would appear only "the special ppl" can trully grasp the meaning of it all