Here you go Baaba awees: Gooskaad iga gaartay An waa ku gaclooday Guur aan rabaaye Gaabsi kaama doone Garab isiiyee Woman: I guursee Baaba awees: Gurigeey imaawee Woman: Waa kula guuraa Makaa geed galaaye Anba waa gareeste Geesiyoow gadaashaa Leenba guurihaaye Waaku gartee In aad i gaclootayee Baaba awees: Geber hadii Gacalkaa galaayo Ha gaabnaate Ha gaduudanaate.. Garab isiiyee Woman: I guursee Baaba awees: Gurigeey imaawee Woman: Waa kula guuraa I was at a family wedding Awees Qamiis was playing at, that guy has a way of making people forget themselves. Wixi habro joogay garbasaarka ee soo xerteen

Haddad, the scene you have described is highly idyllic, and you can think it is applicable to the situation back home because you haven’t been mentally affected by the war. Imagine those that have lived and relived the trauma of the civil war, killing, being wounded, seeing a loved one gunned down, wanting revenge, not knowing what life will bring from day to day. And within that context, how would you react towards the civil war? Our religion should have been a way out, but as the past decade an half have has shown, people are more concerned with survival at the moment rather than being proactive and bringing about changes. Just look at how the religion has been incorporated into the life back home. People are more religious, with everyone female being covered and so on, because of their awareness of their mortality. And yet the killing continues. The solution to the Somali problem is hard to find, with so many people having suffered and knowing who put them through that suffering. Their logic is that the killer should be killed, or a member of his family/tribe should be killed in the killer’s stead. That eye for eye attitude has resulted in the increase of the bloodshed I believe, and in murderers fleeing the country to start over in Europe or North America where they are unknown. The paradox in that being that we sent member of the Somali community that commit felonies back home, to escape the result of their crimes. So with killers being exchanged between the western countries and the home country, isn’t it more likely than not that we have not one, but several killers amongst us? Baashi, I know I’m stampeding on egg shells with this topic, but it relates closely to the Somali problem and might be beneficial to discuss. I entrust the sol members to behave with the topic accordingly and to not finger point to exact revenge on people.

Soomaalidu gumeeysi jeclaa, Alloow ceebta noo astur. As for the topic, Allah's power is unquestionable, just look at us and how our body functions for a prime example. Everything we do and are attest to the infinite power of our creator. So whether Allah can turn those that blasphemy into animals isn't questionable, as i'm sure most will agree. But whether that has happened yet? I'm shamefully ignorant where the religion is concerned, so without the knowledge needed to interpret the hadiths, it is better to be careful with arguments regarding the Quran to avoid errors, as og-girl has pointed out. But to both sisters' credit, they were putting an effort and time into understanding the Quran and our religion, which is admirable.

^^Baashi I sense u have an ulterior motive for not wanting people to use "Somali fluency as positive indicator of the act." Ali, bro ur right, no person gets away with bad behaviour. I find the thought of possibly knowing or interacting with a killer, unknowingly, quite scary and not that unlikely, be it online or in real life.

On their anniversary a woman cooked a special meal and watched her husband eat through everything she served up, without noticing how nice the table was set, that they were using their best plates or even that she was dressed up to mark the occasion. Feeling very annoyed and angry that he forgot again, she asked her husband "Do you know what today is" in a soft threatening voice. The husband looked thoughtfully at her, and then sheepishly glanced around scratching his head. He knew he was in trouble, so he apologetically told her "right now I'm having amnesia and dejavu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this beforeâ€.

Bear with me people. I’m always imagining “suppose if†situations and not so long ago I was thinking about Somalia and how spread the bloodshed was. Keeping in mind that for every group murdered there was a murderer and that many people have been leaving Somalia every year since the civil war, I started wondering how many killers have left the homeland, assuming respectable lives abroad. Just think about it, it is easy to live in Europe or North America without anyone having a clue about your past. The families abroad have been gone for so long that they can't possibly identify a killer, and those that could are probably still back home, or dead. So a killer from back home could be the same nice person we respect. Keeping all that in mind, how many killers do you reckon are amongst us? Also a point to remember, our online community is accessible to even those still in Somalia. Just imagine that nice person you chat to, joke around with and have discussions with could be a killer made good. Or even that overtly political member who always writes in correct Somali that you know he couldn't have learnt abroad, could he perhaps be a militia man in an internet shop in Somalia taking a tea break?! This whole topic will undoubtedly condemn me to the sol corner reserved for kuwa baaranooyada qaba, but is it really unlikely that a killer is amongst us?

The topic had a very promising start up until u labelled urself as a male member. Bro don't look for life philosophies in a comedy programme.

Seeing that traditional Dr was quite something, people with camel bones and goat foreheads, very strange and I have never hear dof that ever happening. As for the programme, nice to see somali spaces and their beauties, other than that it was the same old cliches reinforced under a goodwill ambasador banner.

Sis, your views are quite moderate for a Somali ma is tiri his white relatives were mingling around, and ppl were friendly to them Meanwhile, the grooms black relatives (the were really dark) sat at the enterence, they never once left "their spot" Let's take a different pov to your sympathetic one, how dare those black relatives snub the wedding that way?! How disrespectful, that they should sit aside and look with distaste on their fellow blacks, while the whites have no problem mingling with us. Kibir badanaa, wasn't our girl good enough for them?! When the food was given out, no one brought them bariis and kimis..no one spoke to them. I don't know the types of weddings you have attended before, but the ones I know, people who sit away or waaaay behind in the hall never get food, regardless of them being Somali or not. Also, the groom's family usually isn't really active in our weddings, so since the bride's family wouldn't be expected to play butler to the grooms if they were somalis, I don't see why they should on the black relatives. the thing that really made me go mad was when she said "yuhuuda waa nacbahay You should watch a documentary on the suffering inflicted on palestine by the jews, you too would feel appalled at seeing how fellow Muslims are treated by the jews. And tho I'm not saying all jews aprove of it, many don't mind as long as their "promised land" is safe and secure. Israel has a strong support base abroad, so no matter what horrible actions they take, they will always get away with it. Marka wax la noco weey yihiin. Sometimes it helps looking at things from all angles before becoming overtly pc.

Sis girls here that wear the hijab on weddings wear ilyar or malqabad that is the same colour as their dirac in a somali fashion, u know, having it front to back and making it stand like faadumo qaasin wears her shaash. Then the garbasaar is worn to cover the neck and the front, while your dahab can still be visible. The overal effect is quite nice and pretty. There is this girl, a far far cousin i suppose, she refused to have her hair on show on her wedding, which was very admirable. She had her dress and everything, and it was women only event, but she stuck to her principles.

^Water fight aa?! Sis don't u know how damaging such activities can be for somalis? A wet sari might be considered sexy, but a wet dirac and macawiis aa, heeyl NO. And besides, after spending 3hrs on tima la fooneeyay, any faarax who comes near me with water will meet my beloved kal who i lovingly call metalic mistress Wouldn’t it be annoying to have a sensitive and romantically inclined faarax? Imagine, not only would he rent "love story" and expect u to cuddle up to him, making u feel sweaty because of the close proximity of his body warmth, which I would imagine to be far from sexy, he would expect u to talk about it afterwards and reflect on how eternal ur love is. Romance, as defined, is very annoying, i think. I know that such shenanigans would put me off any living person for life. That type would smother anyone under the pretext of being loving. If you want someone who understands you, get a best friend, if you need someone to advice you, turn to your siblings, if you want presents, get a job or apply for benefits and treat yourself. Why sugarcoat all those things into the ambiguity that is? By far, the “romantic guy†sounds too effeminized to be appealing. Oh, and rudy, no comment

BOB welcome back. This is what I call arriving with a bang. This story is by far the funniest, especially sida aa u calaacashay. And Garab with his light fingers Garab asks his woman to hold his jacket and then proceeds to unbutton his shirt as he wants to teach Athena & Barwaaqo a lesson while they both continue to scream for the security and the guests behind him were shell shocked as they've never seen a guy taking off his clothes just because he wants to fight two ladies. looooooooool, that bit definately captures the spirit of soomaalinimo.

You can say that again Rudy, Qac will get a digits from a girl asoo tusbaxiisa wata, the words "maandhaay aankuu duceeyee bal nambarkaada keen" come to mind you get a free 1 month trial Is it me or does that sounds like an AOL campaign?

Must NEVER EVER wear tight shirts and must have the irrational fear that wearing tight shirt will make one automatically GAY. Xu God bless you, u made me smile on a miserably profane day.

Moti, adeer good to see just been hibernating and have not left us here on sol. Now, what does your topic title say? Adeer I know you are very smart, for a man Have a rethink, drink a cup of tea and contemplate, and I am sure the "could" will become are, and the "sometimes" will be deleted all together Unless of course, you will disappoint me by demonstrating that I overestimated your grey matter abilities :eek: On a serious note, Shame shame shaaaaaame on you for eavedropping waryaa, I expect better of you

Underdog, how many women were observed to aid you in making your list of women to avoid. Somehow I can't help but think that all those types of women described have been associated with you at one time or other. And if that is the case, then you must be either a doormat who has been abused, or else an ogre who can't attract a decent and non-conniving woman

I hate the world today You're so good to me I know but I can't change Tried to tell you But you look at me like maybe I'm an angel underneath Innocent and sweet Yesterday I cried Must have been relieved to see The softer side I can understand how you'd be so confused I don't envy you I'm a little bit of everything All rolled into one Chorus: I'm a b*tch, I'm a lover I'm a child, I'm a mother I'm a sinner, I'm a saint I do not feel ashamed I'm your hell, I'm your dream I'm nothing in between You know you wouldn't want it any other way So take me as I am This may mean You'll have to be a stronger man Rest assured that When I start to make you nervous And I'm going to extremes Tomorrow I will change And today won't mean a thing Chorus Just when you think, you got me figured out The season's already changing I think it's cool, you do what you do And don't try to save me Chorus I'm a b*tch, I'm a tease I'm a goddess on my knees When you hurt, when you suffer I'm your angel undercover I've been numb, I'm revived Can't say I'm not alive You know I wouldn't want it any other way

Many people have no well of inspiration No one that will shower them with appreciation They lack that someone who they can count on That one special person they can always lean on Others have to count on the kindness of friends On temporary support by people with which they blend Still they have to give something back for that compassion And soon enough their friendship will be out of fashion Now, me, I have got a blessing in disguise Someone who I know won’t let me go into demise When I need to have kindness through cruelty, She is there with her own brand of though love, specially built in Not only is she the beauty ancient Greeks rave about She possesses a wit and intellect that leaves you in no doubt, About the extraordinary personality wrapped around her She is my saving grace, my greatest friend, and further more, my sister. Happy birthday Juxa, may you continue to brighten this world with your presence.

Mabruuk aboowe, I wish you all the happiness in the world. And of course, wiil iyo caano & gabar iyo caano.

Mizz, you shoulda promised us all bun iyo cambuulo (that's what the parents used 2 give to the dugsii everytime their child reached a halfway through the kutub) But seriously, remember to not be nervous, before you open you exam paper bisinka u qabo, and never doubt how you did, when you walk out of that exam hall. Good luck sis, i'm sure you will get through it just fine

Yesterme -Someone with a recognised country and a recognised flag. Living under an unjust government that harmed all somalis, though one wouldn't know that by the actions of certain people. And yet life was better than it is today, as yesterme was in the bossom of a loving community, not bound by qabiil, and in a country where everyone looked like me and spoke like me. And furthermore, happier than current me Yesteryou -Someone who wasn't perhaps as qabiil and "northern" minded as current you, maybe even more positive and with walaaltinimo in mind. But no dispair, yester-you is still somewhere in the new you, as the yesteryou will come out to help, should you see a somali person being in trouble, unless ofcourse you will stop everything and ask for their region first :confused: yesterday -A happy day with its ups and downs, but a day in which none of us ever doubted each other. We came from somewhere that was, even then, far from perfect, but it was ours to do with as we pleased. It was the family heirloom that should have been left to us, but which was, instead, stolen from us. A romantic notion? the sceptic in me thinks so, but is it an impossible notion? certaintly not. Ps: how does it feel 2 venture outside the politics section, my brother? Lets try not to sully this topic with silly novelties that will get us nowhere please. I'm still waiting to be enlightened about our history, so where are the duqooshin of sol?

The old saying qalad qalad laguma saxo comes 2 mind in this thread. Mz slander abaayo macaanto you know not everyone shares sky's sentiment, he is speaking for himself. So don't follow his example and turn on something closely associated with "the other side" As for the khaad chewing, it is a bad habit for both north and south. And as far as appearence go, isn't it described in the xasan aadan song as something attractive, rather than something negative? I'm sure u know what song i mean.

Sis, if my lacking comprehension is correct, Somalia was devided into sections run by the English and Italians and some other entity i'm sure, the french had a stake. The north, or Somali-land as some would like to call it now, was the first part of Somalia to be liberated (i think), they were 4days or so ahead of the rest of Somalia, but when the whole of Somalia was liberated all sections, except those taken by Ethiopia, became known as the Republic of Somalia. *At least that is the little amount of information I have on Somalia, or indeed, Somali-land. If you ask me, they are two sides of the same coin, but with one side wanting to adhere to a different currency value than the other.

Checkmate, i'm with afro on this one, i get that the poem is directed at the younger generation in europe, but whats the main message that is given to the "dhalinyarada yurup joogta"? :confused: People, please be careful with using difficult somali articles, if you do have a little summery for us afflicted ones

The saddest thing is that I can tell any one the history of Europe, the highlights and the low points, but with names like Xaawo Taako and others, i have either heard them vaguely or don't know them at all... Thanks to checkmate and others who have shared bits and pieces of their knowledge of Somalia. Why don't we use this month to get to know our history, so that even those with limited knowledge about their home country, like myself *shame-faced*, can have some understanding as to why the celebrations are so significant. It is hard to say viva Somalia when one doesn't understand the true meaning behind it