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Time for Somaliland to re-envision itself in a changing Somalia
Dr Ligle replied to Mr. Somalia's topic in Politics
A re-think is definitely in order for the house of hargeysa. which i like to describe as!!! This thug state has been using out-dated policies for years and as result have become a laughing stock among somalis and worse is viewed internationally as just a bunch of "nobodies" Because the first mistake they made is they are basing their whole politics around colonialism, which is like 70 years ago and not updating their political arsenal with up-to-date politics of the 21st century. Secondly their separatism will never be accepted by the major players in the region like egypt and ethiopia, therefore internationally speaking no matter how many trips they go to london or washington won't help them because regionally in the neighbourhood they are refused strongly separation. Therefore meetings in london to host their recognition won't get spared any time because more important to britain is egypt and ethiopia then somaliland and they will listen to those states and their opinions way before sland. Infact the world wants to see federal somalia, this is the position and path somalis will take, and rather then hargeysa to dodge the reality is just hurting themselves and causing themselves a mess domestically. A Re-think is definitely in order!!! Firstly they need to participate in somalia, no point hiding from reality which is somalia. Address it!!! Secondly lives being lost in hamar must be acknowledged by hargeysa and they need to help in finding solutions and be viewed by the world as "peace-makers". Thirdly they need to have greater presence inside the tfg and working through the legal means, hell you never know they might even elect an hargeysa president of the tfg and give sland separation politically. Anyways that is more of a strategical way to go about politics then the way they are playing their cards today!!! But that is their house and their mess, and it's up to them to clean it up. However what is even more sad is the fact they have thugs elected in the highest office of the land. Having thugs in power is not good starting point, usually thugs belong in the streets not in the presidential palace, but then again i shouldn't expect much from hargeysa. -
There is a study that has been published by the EM radiation research institute that using cell-phone can lead to greater chance of having a brain-tumor. You can read the report here direct from their website. http://www.radiation research.org/pdfs/15 reasons.asp Or you can watch a 2 and half minute summary visually below. Thankfully i don't use cell-phone, however i do have cordless phone at home which also in the report says will increase the liklihood of having brain-tumor.
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Shabelle Media Network (Mogadishu) Somalia: Darawish Troops Replace Former Government Soldiers in Ex-Control Afgoi Hassan Osman Abdi 31 August 2009 Email|Print|Comment Share: Mogadishu — The TFG forces of Darawish have replaced the former government soldiers in Ex-control Afgoi, a key checkpoint in the Somali capital Mogadishu, official told Shabelle radio on Monday. Afrah Ali Afrah, head of operations of Darawish forces told Shabelle radio that some of their troops were deployed to Ex-control checkpoint where the former government soldiers took illegal money from the traffic traveling between Afgoi and Mogadishu. He said that the replaced soldiers were deployed to another bases of the TFG in parts of the Somali capital Mogadishu. "We shall not take any money from the people and also the traffic. We shall keep the security only." Ali said There had been more government soldiers with heavily armed battle wagons that were firing bullets in each direction which people expressed concern on Monday morning. But all things returned calm as Darawish troops replaced the soldiers. It is not known what the soldiers' replacement will change the security and clashes between the Islamist forces and government troops that often happens there in the capital. Source: http://allafrica.com /stories/20090831146 2.html Good job boys, and keep the peace!!!
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WAXGARADKA GOBOLKA CAYN OO SOO DHAWEEYEY MAAMULKA CUSUB EE GOBOLKA LOO MAG CAABAY Sunday, 30 August 2009 17:28 BUUHOODLE::Waxaa si wayn looga soo dhaweyaya Magaalada buuhodhle ee xarunta Gobalka cayn Gudoomiyha cusub ee Gobalka ee dhawaan loo somagacaabay kaa uu soo magacaabay madaxweynaha Puntland Madaxweynaha Dowlada Puntland C/raxmaan Maxamed Maxamuud Faroole ayaa wareegto uu ka soo saaray Xafiiskiisa Magaalada Gaalkacyo waxaa uu ku magacaabay gudoomiyaha Gobolka Ceyn iyo Kuxigeenkiisa waxaana arintaa aad u soo dhawayay dadka deegaanka oo mudooyinkaan ka war dhoorayay is bedalka Maamulka Gobalka. Gudoomiyha cusub ee Gobalka Cayn Xariir Maxamuud Axmed ayaa madaxweyne Faroole u magacaabay in uu noqdo Gudoomiyaha cusub ee Gobolka Ceyn kidib markii uu la tashi la sameyay dadka deegaanka isagoo horay xilkii uga xayuubiyay gudoomiyihii hore gobolka Ceyn Mr Keyse Cabdi Ayuusuf. kidib markii xilkiisii gudan waayay. Wareegatadaan ayaa sidoo kale lugu soo magacaabay Gudoomiye ku xigeenka Gobalka asgao xilkii ka qaaday kii hore Jamac ibraahin raygal waxuuna u soo magacaabay mid cusub.waxana isbedalka lugu sameyay Maamulkaan wax gardka Gobalka ku macneyen mid macna wayn u keen doonta Gobalka. Ma jiraan wax hadal ah oo ka soo baxay Maamulkii hore oo ku saab san xil ka qaadistaan lugu sameeyay waxuuna magacaabista Mamulkaan imaanasaa xili Madaxweyne farole uu xilkii ka qaaday Guoomiye gobaleedyo kala duwan sida kan Gobalka Cayn iyo Mudug. Gudoomiyha cusub ee Gobalka Cayn Xariir Maxamuud Axmed ayaa madaxweyne Faroole u magacaabay in uu noqdo Gudoomiyaha cusub ee Gobolka Ceyn kidib markii uu la tashi la sameyay dadka deegaanka isagoo horay xilkii uga xayuubiyay gudoomiyihii hore gobolka Ceyn Mr Keyse Cabdi Ayuusuf. kidib markii xilkiisii gudan waayay. Wareegatadaan ayaa sidoo kale lugu soo magacaabay Gudoomiye ku xigeenka Gobalka asgao xilkii ka qaaday kii hore Jamac ibraahin raygal waxuuna u soo magacaabay mid cusub.waxana isbedalka lugu sameyay Maamulkaan wax gardka Gobalka ku macneyen mid macna wayn u keen doonta Gobalka. Ma jiraan wax hadal ah oo ka soo baxay Maamulkii hore oo ku saab san xil ka qaadistaan lugu sameeyay waxuuna magacaabista Mamulkaan imaanasaa xili Madaxweyne farole uu xilkii ka qaaday Guoomiye gobaleedyo kala duwan sida kan Gobalka Cayn iyo Mudug. Source:http://www.hadaaftim o.com/index.php?opti on=com_content&view= article&id=878:waxga radka-gobolka-cayn-o o-soo-dhaweeyey-maam ulka-cusub-ee-gobolk a-loo-mag-caabay&cat id=39:wararkale Excellent news, new mayor for buhoodle. The people deserve better local leadership on the ground and i support farole on this re-shuffle on the cayn region. There are reports that sanaag is getting new regional state. We need competent leadership from the bottom to the top, cooperating and working together in a professional manner. New age is coming for puntland. Looking very prospective!!!
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Somalia: 'Fearful' Somaliland minister addresses crowd, police fire bullets 31 Aug 31, 2009 - 12:40:00 PM HARGEISA, Somalia Aug 31 (Garowe Online) - A government minister in Somalia's separatist republic of Somaliland addressed a crowd gathered in front of the parliament building Monday, followed moments later by police gunfire, Radio Garowe reports. Hargeisa protest Aug. 31, 2009 Mr. Ali Mohamed "Waran'adde," Somaliland's aviation minister, was trying to reach the presidential compound in Hargeisa when he could not drive his vehicle through hundreds of people gathered around the parliament building. Mr. Waran'adde, who is considered one of Somaliland's more popular ministers, got out of the vehicle and walked through protestors chanting "Down with Riyale's government!" The protestors called on Mr. Waran'adde to resign from his post, witnesses said. Hargeisa protest Aug. 31, 2009 Some reports said Mr. Waran'adde loudly proclaimed "I quit" in front of the protestors. Other reports said Somaliland's aviation minister chanted along with crowd, saying: "Down with Riyale's government!" Our correspondent in Hargeisa described Mr. Waran'adde as being "fearful" of the crowd. The protestors were unarmed and peaceful, he added. Eventually, the minister made his way through the crowd and passed on towards the parliament building and presidential compound area, which was sealed off by hundreds of police and soldiers. Witnesses said the security forces opened gunfire moments after Mr. Waran'adde disappeared behind the troops, with local media speculating that the aviation minister issued the order. There were no reports of injuries, however, but protestors were forced to flee in the face of a barrage of bullets. The election crisis in Somaliland worsened last week when President Dahir Riyale deployed soldiers to block off entryway into the parliament building, as protestors gathered for the third consecutive day. RELATED: Somalia: Somaliland appoints fact-finding committee to resolve crisis Source: Garowe Online Source Link:http://www .garoweonline.com/ar tman2/publish/Somali a_27/Somalia_Fearful _Somaliland_minister _addresses_crowd_pol ice_fire_bullets.sht ml Illahi haa soo tosiyo!!! dhib ba haysto reerkaas.
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Madaxwayne Faroole oo ku wajahan gobolka Sanaag 01-09-2009 Gaalakcyo:(Nugaalmed ia) Madaxwayne Faroole oo ku wajahan gobolka Sanaag Madaxwaynaha Maamulka Puntland C/raxmaan Faroole ayaa la sheegay inuu dhawaa u Kicitimi doono Gobolka Sanaag isaga iyo qaar ka mid ah Golahiisa Wasiirada, safarka Madaxwaynaha ee Sanaag ayaa waxa noo Xaqiijiyay saraakiil sar sare oo ka tirsa Madaxtooyada Garoowe,Hase ahaatee ka Gaabsaday inay Magacooda shaaciyaan. C/raxmaan Faroole ayaa la sheegay inuu Gaadhi doono Deegaanka Sanaag waxan la Cadeeyay inay ka mid yihiin Wasiirada Safarkaasi ku wehelidoonaan Wasiirka Arimaha Gudaha C/laahi Axmed Jaamac Mataan [ilka Jiir] Wasiirka Xanaanada Xoolaha Mr Doonyaale. Madaxwayne Faroole ayaa Wararku sheegayaan inuu Ugu horayn gaadhayo Degmada Dhahar ee Xarunta Haylaan isaga oo Gobolkaasi Gudoomiye iyo ku xigeen u Magcaabaya. Xogta aanu ka helayno Safarka Faroole ee Sanaag ayaa sidoo kale waxay Muujinaysaan inuu Kulamo Xasaasi ah la qaadandoono Odayaasha iyo Siyaasiyiinta Gobolka isaga oo kala hadlidoona arimo badan oo aan ilaa haatan saxaafada la soo gaadhsiin. Warar kale oo dheeraad ah ayaa iyana sheegaya inuu Madaxwaynihu Gaadhidoona Degmooyinka Badha, iyo Xingalooli iyada oo warku Tibaaxayo in Degmada Xingalool uu Odayaasheeda kala hadlidoono Dhisida Gobolka Haylaan iyo waliba qaabkii loo Dar Dar Galin lahaa. Madaxwayne Faroole ayaa haatan ku sugan Degamada Gaalkacayo ee Xarunta Mudug waxan laga soo xigtay Xafiiskiisa in uu dhawaan ka soo Boqoolidoono markii hawlihisa shaqo Halkaasi uga dhamaato. Shacbaka Reer Sanaag ayaa inta badan u Gacan taaga Maamulka Puntland waxana lagu Amaanaa inay yihiin dad Nabad Jecel isla markaana isku Duuban iskana difaaca cadwga markii aay kusoo dulaan marka laga hadlayo Horumarinta Deegaanka waxana lagu Xasuustaa qaabkii ay u soo dhaweeyeen General Ilka Jiir wakhtigii uu u Han qal taagayay Hogaaminta PL. Waa safarkii Ugu Horeeyay ee Masuuliyiinta Puntland Qoobka ku Galiyaan Gobolka Sanaag tan wakhtigii la doortay Maamulkaasi ee Horaantiisa Bishii Jaanaayo, 2009-. Nugaalmedia Gaalkacyo Source:http://n ugaalmedia.com/news. php?readmore=701
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War kuwani awoowahey ayaa ii sheegi jirey. Wuxuu yiri "reer hargeysa weligood kama baxan kacdoon, mar siyad ba gumaysto, mar rayale" their whole history nin baa haysto!!!
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Somali tfg forces being trained up in djibouti, and further plans to have more trained up by france at a later date.
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Sherban lol i give up sxb, this topic is over. It's heading nowhere and next time don't enter my threads if you can't stick to the topic people. Your wasting your time and energy and so am I. I seriously want to have discussion when i display my evidence, i am not here for slanging match. Either deal with the evidence at hand, or sxb just don't make a comment at all. It's pointless my threads are posted for purpose and people divert it from the main purpose!!!
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Miskin the admin edited my post because it said a tribe name which is funny because the onlf boys will be furious with the admin because he refuses to acknowledge that area by their tribal name and therefore naturally endorses "kilinka shanaad" or the 5th zone. I will refer to that area with that name, that is why sayyid article was edited. Lol the admin wants to call that region kilinka shanaad go and explain that to the onlf guys. But i will call it the 5th zone with pleasure and if ppl say i am inflammatory for saying that i can just say the admin wanted it that way because he edited my post when i called it by it's somali name. Lastly, i stated a fact the usc and snm clans are under-represented on that treaty and i was wondering why, that is when i started to apply logic and reasoning. Sxb listen a piece of advice RUNTA HADAY KU DHIBEYSO LALALALA FANTASY KU NOOLOW. its up to u but u have no right to FORCE other ppl to join u in your LALALALALA fantasy and i will object that 100%. My posts are for those interested to see the truth WITH EVIDENCE.
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Mr.Somalia wa wallahi it has shocked me to be quite honest. If i took this guy to any scholarly university and displayed my case or even if i took him to the mosque and displayed my case, he would be thrown out because considers evidence like united nation historical records as "inflammatory"...tha t is what has truly shocked me!!!!
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Miskin if you are reasonable person, then those threads i posted that you are referencing are 1. United nations compensation Treaty 2. New york post news piece from 1905. These are historical official records. The united nation treaty is offical government archived record. It is historical thing that occured. It is not fiction book for goodness sakes. Secondly the new york post article is report piece that was reported in 1905 of the mad mullah defeat. Are you objecting that this occurred? How can the truth be inflammatory. Wallahi manta yaab baan arkey. Are you objecting to my opinion on the articles i post, or are you objecting to the historical facts itself? I am confused wallahi!!! If it is that you find the evidence at hand inflammatory sxb you reasonable because you are denying REALITY and FACTS. If it is my conclusions that you objecting then that is whole another case. I reach my conclusions based on logic and reasoning. For example ethiopia attacks somalia. Logic will dictate ethiopia attacked somalia because of national interest sakes for themselves. Because people don't go to war for nothing. Those are sort of conclusions i use when i conclude upon the evidence at hand. I use rationality, logic and reasoning to display my argument. Is that what you find inflammatory? if so please debate the issue and show me where i was wrong and then prove me wrong using logic and reasoning. If you have a case your logic and reasoning will be seen by all people and i even apologize if i make mistake.
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Miskin can you tell me how i am being le inflammatory? for example if i post a news article "somaliland crisis military capture parliament" and source my article. Is that what is considered inflammatory? Well that is just news piece, and its reality and occurred!!! If that is inflammatory, well sxb the truth is inflammatory then. I don't even start any problems, people attack me when i post a news article. I infact want to talk about the article not have a slanging match. However i do respond with venom when i am attacked on personal or my state insulted on not facts.
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Kornaylka and america bombed hiroshime and nagasaki japan for the greater good. It was to stop the imperalist japanese army from conquering asia. Hell they even took over china!!! Do you think america should just sit back and watch innocent ppl be killed by japanese imperialist army? hell no. They stood up took them out and alot of japanese died in the process. That is sad but it's inevitable loss but for the greater good of the world!!! Puntland did the same thing. It was not about getting our own into villa somalia. It was about setting up the national government in hamar and to remove the opponents of it. The opponents were the ones who used the eritrea tigray to begin with, and the tfg responded by using ethiopia tigray also. It is called balancing out the battle-ground!!! Unfortunately innocent ppl died but it was for the greater good of estabilishing a national federal government!!! That fight is still continuing today AND WILL continue untill federalism reigns supreme. So you think sland inactiveness is good thing? well sorry to inform you washington thinks otherwise, infact your sacked foreign minister of lala land even tried sending 3 memos to house commitee for re-scheduling of the meeting and was flatly rejected by america. Listen puntland can do just exactly what sland did, it doesn't take much pressure to call yourself a nation and say i separate myself. But we are realist we are going through the correct legal procedures unlike your lala fake land that tries to go through illegal means to establsh themselves. But what goes around comes around and tigray have just guaranteed rayale that if kulmiye and ucid dare attack rayale ethiopia guaranteed tigray soldiers will come showering down thru hargeysa streets and blow 1 million slanders away. That is the facts. Either u stick with rayale the dictator or you get tigrays in hargeysa to battle with!!! MAKE YOUR CHOICE. because thats all you have got now. Like i said a rat will be caught in a trap and i guess snm has just gotten caught, enjoy getting out of this one looooooooooooooool
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Can i ask u guys why you hate puntland? Seriously it baffles me!!! What do u want us to do be like sland and just ignore hamar and let them die? Would u think its honorable to just have your brother fall over and just ignore him? this is the sland policy...well that is not garowe policy, we are trying to lift him up and trying to clear the obstacles in his way from standing. I really am amazed what the hell u want puntland to do? u want us to just ignore hamar and continue with our oil projects like it dont matter what happens in hamar or innocent ppl die? U see in washington, america realized sland is selfish ppl who just care for their recognition and not trying to help in finding peace in hamar. Obviously america has promised to punish them for that an isolate them further, where-as puntland was rewarded with support and recognition of the federal charter of the tfg!!! anyways at least washington knows puntland is good state and is trying its hardest to find peace for the political crisis in somalia and somalis can continue to hate us which is up to u and not our problem.
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Duke is reer galkacyo, he is patriotic man and i respect him, He thinks unfortunately that galkacyo is going to be a main-stay in puntland politics. Abdullahi Yusuf is by far the greatest military leader we have ever had. His contributions will never be forgotten. However he was asked to lead because it is time of war and reer galkacyo and that area of the hawd have the most bravest soldiers on the block. However when we step into the realm of peace-time somalia, we return back to the normal way and the normal way is the kings way. It is the bari kings who run the show in times of peace like abdirashid sharmarke who hailed from the kings. Every sub-clan has its expertise, some are good fighters, some are good politicians, some are good talkers, every region has it's vices. In peace-time somalia galkacyo will always be viewed in the history book as the savior of the clan, but we will return back to normal way of business of political dominance of the kings.
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Wallahi billahi puntland ethiopian soldiers kuma wareegi karan, are you kidding on crack or something? It is not allowed very clear, cut and dry. If i ever saw an ethiopian tank rolling past our streets i would be calling my uncles straight away in garowe to sort it out. It just never ever will happen. We are not like somaliland and invite ethios in our home, but we like to visit ethiopia at their home. Cade muse was a disaster leader so whatever he said and didn't is irrelevant, noone trusts that man. He is living in $3 million dollar mansion in dubai, how? CORRUPTION. So don't state cade muse quote as something to be believed when 95% of the time he spoke he lied. If u said farole said that, then that would be different story all together because he indeed is honest man and educated.
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Semi arid desert is good because it is giving us $67 million dollars in oil revenues...does your bannanas and farms earn u that sort of income? looooooool we are going to be like saudi arabia, while u can be like ethiopia a beautiful landscape ethiopia has but the poorest ppl on earth because agriculture doesnt make money!!! Bye bye africa, puntland is becoming opec member
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Puntland is only 7 regions. it is not 15, so you do the maths sxb!!! its obviously not just a puntland affair it go beyond that.
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Anwar, I know what galmudug the name means sxb...well the boys in baraxleey should be gathering the usc boys and i dont know why they haven't been pro-active in that department!!! They should sit down with the clan-elders and think about their interests and how to best work together, because somalia after shabab is defeated is heading towards a federal government and the stronger your local administration the bigger voice you have in the parliament. Wallahi i wish the best for galmudug, they are going through the correct political procedures unlike the shabab thugs who just want to take stuff by violent way or sland who want to do things the illegal way.
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If galmudug wants to be taken "politically" serious they need to expand themselves and include other regions like their wider clan federation and not just 1 sub sub clan making a state. Noone will take 1 sub sub clan government serious, spread your control across to your other brothers in the usc federation.
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Anwar 15 regions are participating!!!! cant you read? now puntland is 15 regions right!!! its that sort of ignorance that keeps you in ignorance...free yourself with truth
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Anwar, last time i checked i never seen an ethiopian soldier wandering out puntland...where do you get that idea from? Secondly, we don't even allow ethiopian officials to step foot into puntland. If puntland wants to streghten business and military ties we send delegation from puntland to addis, not vice-versa. Lastly ethiopia doesn't get involved in our politics, do you see them negiotating between our people in galkacyo after the minister assasination? Do you see ethiopia holding negiotation between abdullahi and cade in 2002 when they clashed? But ethiopia is negiotating between hargeysa factions just 1 week ago inside hargeysa...what does that tell you? Sxb the fact is yes we as puntland use ethiopians, but we never bring them to our backyard!!! we take them to your backyard in the south because their is saying "trashy people need other trashy ppl to keep them company"
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Puntland to host Somali regional Olympic Games Mogadishu Sunday 30 August 2009 SMC For the second time in less than ten years, the Somali semiautonomous region of Puntland will host the nation’s regional Olympic Games which are due to be held in the city of Garowe by the end of this year. Somali NOC First Vice-president of International Relations Duran Ahmed Farah said in a press conference on Saturday that Somali Olympic committee and Puntland authorities had reached a mutual understanding on the region hosting of the Olympic Games. For the past few days a high level Somali Olympic delegation under the chairmanship of Mr Duran Farah including SFF president Said Mahmud Nur has been visiting Puntland where they held meetings with Puntland authorities including President Abdurahman Mahmoud Faroole, his deputy Abdi Samad Ali Shire and the regional sports minister Mohamed Abdi Nur. “During our visit to Puntland we discussed many issues including the widening of sports activities throughout all regions, particularly the peaceful areas like Puntland,” Duran told the media. According to Duran the President of Puntland Abdurahman Faroole has warmly welcomed the constructive ideas presented by the Somali NOC and its member federations, pledging that his administration will stop at nothing to help develop the reviving sport in Somalia. “The Puntland administration will be responsible for the reservations and we are very grateful," Duran said, adding that "15 regions and Somali expatriate sporting communities in Europe and north America will participate in the regional competition". President Faroole described the participation of Somali sporting communities in Europe and North America as a tangible breakthrough. The Puntland region first hosted the Somali regional Olympic Games in 2000. Isboorti Chief Editor Said Ibrahim Hussein (BUUNA) Cell Phone:+2525-0-982912 +2526-2-272145 Email:buuna@isboorti .com Website:www.isboorti .com Somaliweyn Media Center “SMC Source: http://www.somaliwey n.org/pages/news/Ago s_09/30Ago32.html Excellent job puntland!!!
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