Keep it up, gentlemen We'll see where it gets your Puntland at the end. And you wonder why Faroole was refused at Nairobi?! You guys have to do some housecleaning first. Adde was not the best leader but he was a whole lot more forthcoming about the situation. The "international community" is aware of the connection between piracy and Madaxtooyada in Garowe. This will keep Faroole's cabinet from developing any meaningful relationships with "the international community". After all, there's that damning UN Report from a few months ago (which I will be happy to post again if you ask...LOL). Ooh, another lawless region of the former Somalia... Tsk,tsk....

^^^ Why do you guys always stray off the topic and personalize things when you have no argument to present?!? Cajiib

Originally posted by somalipride: Times Online Mohamed is the son of the newly elected president of Puntland and does not want to be seen in public cavorting with pirates. Moreover, Boyah has recently contracted tuberculosis and Mohamed insists that we meet him in an open space. [/b] And some still make the claim that there's no collusion between the Puntland Authority and Piracy . What a joke

Adkeysta, nimanyahow, adkeysta! The refugee life will last a bit longer, dee...

Xiin, Adkeysa, saaxib, adkeyso. Don't make me an excuse for the horrible couple of days you've been having. And stick to attacking ideas, not personalities. That trick seems to have lost its effectiveness for you and your ilk. Defend your ideas like a man and don't attack personalities when you're losing. All I've said in the past has always been the same - your ideas are bankrupt and hypocritical. I think many on this Forum have now woken up to that fact. Adkeyso....

Originally posted by Paragon: The matter is not about control but about control. Two different things altogether. Lol. Oohh, my, ooohh, my!!! Duke, this guy sounds as delusional as you did during the last few months Abdullahi Yusuf was holed up in Villa Somalia

^^ Saaxiib, we both know where I stand on that equation. I don't need to spell it out for you of all people Take it as a compliment - I have a higher regard for your intellect than many others on this board. You just need to be straightened out on a few issues and then you will be good to go

Paragon, my mistake. I was actually referring to another thread (your posting). Unfortunately, you still haven't removed it. Here's the thread

Originally posted by Belial: xiinfaniin: Nothing personal but I have studied many writers here in SOL for some years and I followed your peace-train?!? or peace-wagon very closly and I have come to understand that you are clueless. Desinformation is your livehood. ^^ Xiin, it seems a lot of folks are holding you up to the torch. In the words of another poster here on SOL, "You need to UP your game, man!"

^^^ Thank you for removing the post.

Che, forget Garowe. Like I told you last week, the world will slowly realize the only path out of the Somali quagmire. Meanwhile, we'll sit back and wait for the dust to clear...

Why do you guys have to couple/group Hargeisa/Somaliland with everything you wish for your beloved Puntland? Can't your Puntland stand on its own feet? (We know the answer to that one) You never hear Somaliland/Somalilan ders grouping themselves with Puntland. They seek their part of the pie on their own merits - Cadkaaga gooso, ninyahow & Lugahaaga ku istaag! This coupling of Somaliland/Puntland is uttered by everyone that hails from Puntland from the President to the 2-yr old. It's flattering but useless.... Magaca iska dhiga!

Basically, what you're saying is the more things change the more things stay the same. Back to the Green Line of the '90's. Sad turn of events but predictable though...

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: ^^Yes I still do. What is happening in Xamar in bigger than Xassan A. Adkeyso, ninyahow, Adkeyso... Insha'Allah, kheyr!

Paragon, I know you're emotional about this, but please watch the language. No need to go that low, saaxiib.

Previous Post from April 23: Originally posted by Mintid Farayar: quote:Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: The title “Sheikh” may or may not be a misnomer, but the interesting question here is why XDA chose to come to Mogadishu. If XDA came to Mogadishu as part of a secret peace accord with the TFG, I will be the first to herald him as a champion of peace at a time of great turmoil and mistrust. But if the old man entered the city without any change of view towards the TFG, then his unfussy arrival in Mogadishu may very well be an open indication of the TFG’s apparent inability, once again, to control the capital. If anything, this is a harbinger of ominous things to come and perhaps the prolongation of the same septic practices we got so used to. We shall see what he is up to. I fear your second point will be the true one. H.D. Aweys has tremendous potential to destabilize the current TFG, AMISOM, and whatever little peace exists in Mogadishu. His tentacles stretch as far as Puntland and even further into Somaliland. While he doesn't have the ability to overthrow the governing entities up North, he does have significant capacity to destabilize them. This situation should be closely monitored by all Somali-watchers and is potentially more significant than the Donors Conference in Europe. What do you think? And here was Xiin's reply: Originally posted by xiinfaniin: ^^I think it's all in your head So, Xiin, do you still think it's all in my head? I hear your wailing all the way from here...

^^ Speak for your little tuulo, brother. Mine is bigger and brighter than LONDON

^^ One defeated group pointing the finger at another group on the verge of defeat. Simply priceless...

^^ Just don't run as usual (my dear Puntland boys). We would like a few months of relaxation before we have to deal with this situation. from a 'worried' Somalilander

What Ulumma?? Who are the Ulumma? How are they selected? Sharif has proven himself unable to manage/manipulate that angle. Remember in mid-February, he called an Ulumma Council of Somali clerics from all over the world. This failed to provide the support he was hoping for. The meeting concluded with a demand for a fixed timetable for Amisom to leave the country and for the strict enforcement of Shariah, with huddud punishments. Sharif had argued for some compromise over the huddud punishments (for example, not stoning women to death for adultery) and a fatwa on atrocities committed by Al Shabaab and Hizbul Islam. Many, probably a majority, of the Ulumma were Salafi , and Sheikh Bashir Ahmed Salat , a Salafi and a leader of Jabhatul Islamiya, was elected Chairman. Jabhatul Islamiya is one of four groups within Hizbul Islam . So I'm just a bit skeptical of the political skills of Sharif in this environment. What do you think?

A very interesting development, if true. Sharif makes a lot of sense but will it be too little too late? Is he strategically the equal of Hassan Dahir? Sharif has a lot of deadweight among his coalition who bring a lot of negatives but very little positives. These individuals were forced upon him by outside interests to guard their own interests but are completely useless in the Mogadishu/South equation (which is where the major/initial game will always get played). Hassan Dahir Aweys has proven himself a formidable Godfather in the South. Most of the things he said would happen in his first Mogadishu speech after returning from Eritrea have come to pass in the last few days. This creates quite an impression on the ground. It creates a critical mass of support from many fence-sitters around the periphery. Let's see...

Originally posted by Mintid Farayar: quote:Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: The title “Sheikh” may or may not be a misnomer, but the interesting question here is why XDA chose to come to Mogadishu. If XDA came to Mogadishu as part of a secret peace accord with the TFG, I will be the first to herald him as a champion of peace at a time of great turmoil and mistrust. But if the old man entered the city without any change of view towards the TFG, then his unfussy arrival in Mogadishu may very well be an open indication of the TFG’s apparent inability, once again, to control the capital. If anything, this is a harbinger of ominous things to come and perhaps the prolongation of the same septic practices we got so used to. We shall see what he is up to. I fear your second point will be the true one. H.D. Aweys has tremendous potential to destabilize the current TFG, AMISOM, and whatever little peace exists in Mogadishu. His tentacles stretch as far as Puntland and even further into Somaliland. While he doesn't have the ability to overthrow the governing entities up North, he does have significant capacity to destabilize them. This situation should be closely monitored by all Somali-watchers and is potentially more significant than the Donors Conference in Europe. What do you think? Not to blow my own horn, but I've warned of this current turn of events from the beginning of the old man's return. Others in this thread (Xiin) have stated it was all in my head I wonder what Mr.Xiin who never seems to get the political winds in the Somali peninsula correct will have to say on the latest developments.

Originally posted by Xaaji_xundjuf: Its funny fikir islaamad ka hadlaysa and you stop at lawyacade what is stopping you in lawyada cade Djibouti gall haday ka dacaad tahay oo dhulka canfarta gall eeh mulimiinta. Oo soco mise waxagu wa Somaliland uun lol Kilinka shanaad oo gudub haday fikirkan islaamka ka dacaad tahay oromada xorree. Lol. Laakin Somaliland these guys you are talking about godane they are wanted in Somaliland jail ba oo qorran kuwasaad adigu na emir ugu yeedhaysa lol. Runtii these people won’t pass galkacyo hadaynu runta isku sheegno hadabay soo dhafaaan ahlu suna waljamaca we saw the karbaash they got from ahlu sunna waljamaca in galguudud and gobolada dhexe. ^^ Ishaad ka soo tuurtey Many have Somaliland sickness on the mind. It's a case of why aren't you in my wretched situation always. However, it's precisely for that reason that we'll never politically unite with the South no matter what carrots/incentives are offered. We know the political culture of the place too well. When the Shabaab and Co. finish with the little boys, Somaliland will be waiting for the real showdown

Why do you guys (Puntland folks) always lump yourself with Somaliland? It's obvious you have a secret love affair with Somaliland. Have you ever heard Somaliland or Somalilanders classify themselves with Puntland? Never. If you're running scared as usual when the bullets start flying, then that's your problem. We've the capacity to deal with these guys. Remember Ina Godane runs around hiding in a 'Diric' when he's around Hargeisa and related areas. That should show you the extent of the power he enjoys in that area. After every cowardly explosion in Somaliland, al-Shabaab runs for the door and often is caught just before they make the border. That should show the extent of their power up North. So, my dear Puntlandian friends, we don't suffer from the same urine-soaked sleep that you seem to be having these evenings. The situation in Xamar is terribly sad and we wish peace for the poor civilians in that area.

Puntland is broke, boys. That's what all the wind is about. Ha ka neefina