By the daily screams emanating from their mouths every day on this Forum, it's obvious which group/groups Dahir Rayaale has mugged

A Somali interested in Game Theory/Rational Choice Theory? Interesting....

Not yet, Xiinow. But I have theories about the clan meeting in Galkacayo

Question: Why are all the Somaliweyn & anti-Somaliland factions anti-Rayaale and pro-Kulmiye?

To clear the way for the TFG trip to Galkacayo... Smoothen the road...

A creeping acceptance of the impotency of appointing Somalilanders to positions in Southern administrations. Now we wait for Jangali, another Somalilander, to be eventually replaced.

Originally posted by xiinfaniin: all this reports offers is a rehash of SOL oponions. Maybe, ICG read my previous posts on this board...

Still trying to resuscitate ?

The people of Sool have chosen PEACE! So far, PEACE seems guaranteed only by Somaliland . The remnants of a defeated regime living in the Diaspora seem determined to change that choice. So far, they've remained unsuccessful but their funds from outside are most welcome for repatriation ....

The dreams of Puntlanders.... If only they could come true.... First, Puntland will be handed control of Somalia through the Americans (1992-1993)... When that didn't work, Puntland will come in with Ethiopian troops to rule forever (2006-2008)... The latest incarnation is wishing for Puntland coming in with Somaliland troops... Even more unlikely than the previous two! Adkeysta, nimanyahow, adkeysta...

Originally posted by General Duke: ^^^So is the economist the word of god? Give us a break, well run? a region that trully has a powerful warlord [to the SNM] and former NSS comander running the show, in comparison to Faroole an MBA and PHD student, a career banker? Apparently those you're asking for aid (for an indigenous coast guard) are not too impressed with those credentials. Nothing personal, as usual, just quoting how the rest of the world views the differences in the region Secondly, even you, Duke, have hopped on the latest Puntland ploy to couple Puntland's failures with Somaliland's successes by referring to them as the 'functional Northern regions'. This also shall not work, especially when one partner (Somaliland) refuses to acknowledge a partnership exists.

Puntland's image was never stellar with the Western world. The leadership has too often been associated with criminal activities. Qaryaqaan, from previous postings, seems a Puntlander who's simply bothered by the weaknesses of the current leadership. To quote popular Western perceptions of the region, here's a quote from the Economist; Some 30 lethal suicide-bombs are thought to have exploded since five went off more or less simultaneously in October in Somaliland , which has managed to remain de facto independent (and fairly well-run ) for several years, and in the semi-autonomous Puntland region, where various warlords , few of them jihadist, hold sway. Economist Link

^^ At least citizens are voting somewhere in the Horn. Isn't it a beautiful thing

This is the link to the real article and it's not from a Somaliland website. Link Little by little, the Western press are waking up to details of the pirate saga. They even mention some regional leaders' business relationships with the pirate gangs.

Originally posted by Emperor: Mintid, Adeer young men from the small town of Eyl made millions while you hoped the EU or US will bomb Bosaaso... Lying comes easily to some, I see... Present your evidence from archives before barking. Don't attempt to win sympathy points from the stands by making false accusations. Aahhh, I was away for a little while, but it's nice to see the reaction I can bring from some corners. Wait for my next expose, boys. I'm sure you'll be thrilled as well as all the others who frequent these boards. You might even learn a thing or two...

It seems you're just repeating exactly what I posted about 2 months ago. So what's new? But admission is the first step in treatment... Instead of worrying about who hates you, first deal with whether the accusations are true. When I saw this thread, I burst out laughing asking myself whether you were all asleep or in severe denial - Puntland is a human-trafficking and pirate den . Those are the primary commercial activities that take place in that region. Now you can either deal with those realities and try to change that situation or worry countless nights about whether Mintid Farayar hates Puntland.

The children are finally waking up....

Originally posted by J.a.c.a.y.l.b.a.r.o: He started the market and he is the main foojariiste in the country ,,,, JB, is he the same guy who forged all those documents that convinced Puntlanders that there's actually oil underneath their land???

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: Not every conflict plays out the same way since there are different variables, and three variables might work to your advantage. The first being your tribesmen who bind together more than other Somalis in times of great adversity,the second being young disposal able bodies that know nothing but the idea of Somaliland, and the last variable is the resources coming from the diaspora. There would be external factors, but as history shown us, those tend to do harm than good. What an interesting way to look at a peaceful country ( Somaliland ) trying to survive in a very tumultuous, violent neighborhood.... Question for you, Che: If the Shabaab/Xisbul Islam are successful in taking over the South (even your own home Tuulo in Mudug), and then proceed to the next project, a takeover of Somaliland, where will your heart lie? With your new occupiers or with those Northern tribesmen you describe above??

Maybe, the rumors that Shabaab wanted Aweys to hand over Indhacade to them were true. The rumors said Aweys initially refused to hand Indhacadde over. Maybe after the battles settled into a certain stalemate in the last 2 days, Aweys decided he needed the full force of Shabaab backing him up. Maybe Aweys told him - "I can't protect you any longer since I need Shabaab as allies". A lot of maybe's, but plausible. If that theory^ is true, Indhacadde had no choice but to save his skin and run back to Sharif and the protection of AMISOM.

Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: Mujaahidiineey, ka faa'iidaysta inta balaayadu qasan tahay oo qoraalo internetka ku daldala. Haaheey! What better time to show the contrast in the Two Separate Countries!

A pertinent article that touched on many issues (positive & negative). I hope we display our usual maturity in solving the election disputes. Very soon, the barbarians will be at the gate! And we will need our full energy in that direction. Thanks for posting this.

Walad (Ould) Abdalla's position has changed since yesterday. Quoting the article: Ould-Abdalla said he has offered to help Somalia's hardline Islamic leaders remove their names from a U.N. Security Council list of terrorists if they will work for peace. " It is not in killing their own people that they will solve this problem, " Ould-Abdalla said, referring to the terrorist designation. "On the contrary."

It's hard to know what's true and what's not with the myriad cyber-warriors throwing propaganda around the net. AP wrote this story on the situation today... ---------------- Scared Somalis running out of food as battles rage By MOHAMED OLAD HASSAN Associated Press Writer 15 May 2009 04:37 PM Associated Press Newswires English © 2009. The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) - Hundreds of foreigners fighting alongside Somali Islamic insurgents have driven this week's fierce battles against government forces, which have killed more than 100 people, the U.N. envoy to Somalia said Friday. Concern that the government might fall is mounting . Observers fear that if the al-Qaida linked insurgents seize the capital, they will gain a safe haven on the Horn of Africa. The U.N. Security Council on Friday condemned the upsurge in fighting and gave strong support to the country's leaders. A statement approved by all 15 council members demanded that opposition groups immediately end their offensive, renounce violence and join reconciliation efforts. Somalia's coastline borders an important sea trade route and the Horn juts into the Indian Ocean just below the oil-rich Arabian peninsula. The government controls only one major road in the capital, Mogadishu, along with some government installations, with the assistance of about 4,350 African Union troops. The fighting has frightened even longtime residents of the battle-scarred capital. During a lull Friday, people streamed out of their homes seeking food or safer quarters. The U.N.'s envoy to Somalia, Ahmedou Ould-Abdalla, charged Friday that between 280 and 300 foreign fighters were involved last weekend in an attempted coup against President Sheik Sharif Sheik Ahmed, a moderate Islamic leader. "There is no doubt from sources overt and covert that in the attempted coup of last weekend there was significant involvement of foreigners, some from this continent and others from outside this continent, " Ould-Abdalla told journalists in neighboring Kenya. He said some of the foreigners were mercenaries and others were Islamic ideologues . The African Union is concerned about the deepening influence of foreign fighters in Somalia's insurgency, said Nicolas Bwakira, the African Union envoy to Somalia. He said that there are up to 400 foreign fighters in the Horn of Africa nation. " It would be unacceptable that the Shabab, al-Qaida, takes over the government in Somalia. This is a group of war criminals," said Bwakira, referring to a Somali extremist Islamic group that is fighting the government. The U.S. State Department considers al-Shabab a terrorist organization with links to al-Qaida, something the group denies. Ould-Abdalla said he has offered to help Somalia's hardline Islamic leaders remove their names from a U.N. Security Council list of terrorists if they will work for peace. " It is not in killing their own people that they will solve this problem, " Ould-Abdalla said, referring to the terrorist designation. "On the contrary." One on the U.N. list is hardline leader Sheik Hassan Dahir Aweys , leader of a faction of the Alliance for the Re-Liberation of Somalia. The leader of the other faction is Somalia's current president, the more moderate Sheik Sharif Sheik Ahmed. Aweys has been based in the Eritrean capital, Asmara, since the umbrella Islamic group he led with Ahmed was ousted from Mogadishu and southern Somalia in 2006 by Ethiopian troops. Ahmed returned to Mogadishu as president in February -- and Ethiopia withdrew its troops from Somalia -- under a deal mediated by Ould-Abdalla. Aweys returned to Mogadishu in April, saying he wanted the African Union force out of Somalia, as well. During this week's fighting, some government troops have defected to the insurgents, although the government denies it . The local television station HornAfrik has run video of Islamist fighters displaying 17 military vehicles with government plates they said were brought over by defecting soldiers. Ahmed's spokesman , Abdulkadir Darnaamik told The Associated Press late Thursday that the insurgents had taken two government buildings , including Mogadishu Stadium, where the government kept weapons . "No one has got the upper hand," said Darnaamik. Residents have been fleeing for days, sleeping under trees and sheltering children under scraps of plastic. The streets are eerily quiet, the shops shuttered; even Friday's calls to prayer have been silenced in some areas of north Mogadishu. Hawo Hussein said she was going to stay with relatives in a safer part of the capital. " There is no hope that the two sides will stop fighting, " Hussein said. Her 2-year-old daughter was strapped on her back. Her son walked behind her. She said if the violence gets worse she will flee to Kenya, where a 250,000 Somali refugees already live. Residents described seeing insurgents, some with turbans wrapped around their faces, careering around the streets in pickup trucks bristling with weapons. The few people who have remained to look after houses scurry across the streets during lulls in the violence, searching for food. They say the fighting is even more intense than when the Ethiopian troops supporting the government invaded in 2006. The election of a moderate Islamist as president and the decision to implement Shariah law has failed to persuade the most hard-line elements to give up their struggle. Somalia, torn apart by clan militias, has not had an effective government for 18 years. ------ Associated Press writers Mohamed Sheikh Nor in Mogadishu, Somalia and Tom Odula and Katharine Houreld in Nairobi, Kenya contributed to this report.

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