Zafir Why you suking up to fickle-mind Amelia... she aint worth it homey!

Originally posted by J B: Aristole once defined the truth as "To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false, while to say of what is that it is, and of what is not that it is not, is true". Does that make sense to you ? if so then how? Yes and unpalatably so. Sounds tautological to me. My definition of truth mirrors that of science.

Originally posted by Amelia: double post (delete) Actually, Ms. Valedictorian, that's triple post... experiencing spasmodic episode? Here is mine by none other the inimitable Kheyr , providing classic example of reverse intellectual osmosis: Kheyr: the earth is flat (I can't be bothered to wade through his posts dig up where he said that but he DID).

Vaalenteenah, Happy B-Day if I haven't already told you so. Originally posted by Amelia: enjoy life a little more and not be so frigging upright about things (ya know ). No, not really. Tell us or we'll let our imagination run amuck.

Depends on what you mean by intellectual level... I have my own criteria for intelligence and based on that standard, who qualifies as most intelligent people in the world will shock you.

Canadian Authorities Expect More Arrests By ANTHONY DePALMA Published: June 5, 2006 TORONTO, June 5 — Canadian authorities said today they expected to make more arrests in what they have described as a broad terrorist plot to acquire materials for homemade bombs. In an interview today with the Canadian Broadcast Corportion, Mike McDonnell, assistant commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, was asked whether arrest were expected in the near future. "I believe so," he said, adding: "We will be following every investigative lead we have to its conclusion. Anybody who aided, facilitated or participated in this terrorist event will be arrested and brought to the courts." Most of the 17 men and youths arrested over the weekend in a large counter-terrorism sweep are scheduled to appear Tuesday morning in an Ontario courtroom for preliminary bail hearings. The specific charges against them are expected to be detailed for the first time. At least 6 of the 17 people in the counterterrorism operation over the weekend regularly attended the same storefront mosque in this middle-class Toronto suburb of modest brick rental townhouses and well-kept lawns, fellow worshipers said Sunday. Their attendance at the mosque, Al-Rahman Islamic Centre for Islamic Education, is one of the few public pieces of information that clearly link any of the suspects — 12 adults and 5 youths — in one of the biggest antiterrorism arrests in North America since the Sept. 11 attacks. Members at a mosque prayer meeting on Sunday said the six fellow worshipers who were arrested included the eldest, Qayyum Abdul Jamal, 43, described by several acquaintances as a school bus driver and an active member of the mosque who frequently led prayers, made fiery speeches and influenced young people who attended the services. "He spent a lot of time with youth," said Faheem Bukhari, a director of the Mississauga Muslim Community Center who sometimes attended prayers at the mosque. "He'd take them for soccer or bowling, and talk to them." Mr. Bukhari said Mr. Jamal never openly embraced violence or talked about Al Qaeda, but was "very vocal and I believe could incite these young kids for jihad." Read more here Castro, Still adamant these arrests were for publicity stunt?

Originally posted by Modesty: socod-Badne, I sometimes doubt you are a somali and muslim by your comments, you sound like a red-neck most of the time. Sounding red-neck is part of the shtik! Balse, hadaad rabti xaqiiqda Somaalinimo-deeda, kaaley dhabteeda ku soo fadhiiso kadib baa dhegta aan kugu sheege.

Bin Laden: The latest action in Moscow is only a response to what is happening to all Muslim brothers around the world.... Our people in Palestine are being killed, are being subjected to the worst kind of suffering for almost a century now... If we defend our people in Palestine the world is disturbed and allied against Muslims under the banner of combating terrorism... This is in response to what is happening to our brothers in Palestine who are being killed every day. So we are issuing a warning to citizens of countries allied with the United States. -Nov 2002 As evinced by Bin Laden excerpts above, Canada is in clear and present danger from Bin Laden group or ideologically affiliated groups. Not cooked up bogeymen to bring around waning public support for foriegn military excursions. The wheels of justice are in motion, let justice run it's course. At least they won't get their heads slowly sawn off or summarily excuted.

Let's hope the total decimation of the unholy allience augurs for brighter times ahead.

Castro, Your visceral mistrust of Western governments and their motives is noted but it lacks due perspective. Matter of fact is if it wasn't for these deranged muslims (who represent only a tiny minority of world muslims) hellbent on achieving celestial poontang by indiscriminately massacring civilians, Western governments wouldn't muster the political capital to sell their War on Terror. There'd be no War on Terrorism. We're not talking about hypotheticals here, there is ample evidence forewarning us of what these misguided muslims are intent on doing. Bali, Egypt, Turkey, Madrid, London, Beslan etc etc. It is only the bravura of Western counter terrorism and intelligence agencies that we see less of the aforementioned atrocities. You gotta take stand here Castro. Do you disagree with violent Islamic extremists? If so, then declare it unequivocally. Otherwise, by being unambiguous or by seeming prevaricating, you leave Westerners little choice but to lump all muslims together as potential enemies.

Dragon, You're persona non grata. Originally posted by Rahima: In Somalia and Mogadishu especially you have a choice of either the warlords or the courts. Typical Manichean take! Can't count past 2? There's a third, forth, fifth and so on of possibilities. Like give both fighting sides the boot.

Originally posted by Abaadir: and I thought Didi Kong is a guy. Untill yesterday I was convinced Didi Kong was a hermaphrodite. What a small world!

17 terror suspects arrested in Toronto By BETH DUFF-BROWN, Associated Press Writer 39 minutes ago TORONTO - Seventeen Canadian residents were in custody Saturday on terrorism-related charges, including plots to use explosives in attacks on Canadian soil, authorities said. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police said they arrested 12 male adults and five youth and foiled plans for terrorist attacks against targets in southern Ontario. Officials showed evidence of bomb making materials, a computer hard drive, camouflage uniforms and what appears to be a door with bullet holes in it at a news conference Saturday morning. "This group took steps to acquire three tons of ammonium nitrate and other components necessary to create explosive devices," said assistant Royal Canadian Mounted Police commissioner Mike McDonell said. McDonell said that is three times the amount used to blow up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The arrests were made Friday, with some 400 officers involved. McDonell said the suspects were either citizens or residents of Canada and had trained together. "The men arrested yesterday are Canadian residents from a variety of backgrounds. For various reasons they appeared to have become adherents of a violent ideology inspired by al-Qaida," said Luc Portelance, the assistant director of operations with CSIS — Canada's spy agency. Heavily armed police officers ringed the Durham Regional Police Station in the city of Pickering, just east of Toronto, as the suspects were brought in late Friday night in unmarked cars which were drove into an underground garage. The Toronto Star reported Saturday that Canadian youths in their teens and 20s, upset at the treatment of Muslims worldwide, were among those arrested. The newspaper said they had trained at a camp north of Toronto and had plotted to attack CSIS's downtown office near the CN Tower, among other targets. Melisa Leclerc, a spokeswoman for the federal Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, had no comment on the arrests. In March 2004, Ottawa software developer Mohammad Momin Khawaja became the first Canadian charged under the country's Anti-Terrorism Act for alleged activities in Ottawa and London. Khawaja was also named, but not charged, in British for playing a role in a foiled bomb plot. He is being held in an Ottawa detention center, awaiting trial. The Canadian anti-terrorism law was passed swiftly following the Sept. 11 assaults, particularly after Osama bin-Laden's named Canada one of five so-called Christian nations that should be targeted for acts of terror. The others, reaffirmed in 2004 by his al-Qaida network, were the United States, Britain, Spain and Australian, all of which have been victims of terrorist attacks. The anti-terrorism law permits the government to brand individuals and organizations as terrorists and gives police the power to make preventive arrests of people suspected of planning a terrorist attack. Though many view Canada as an unassuming neutral nation that has skirted terrorist attacks, it has suffered its share of aggression, including the 1985 Air India bombing, in which 329 people were killed, most of them Canadian citizens. Intelligence officials believe at least 50 terror groups now have some presence in the North American nation and have long complained that the country's immigration laws and border security are too weak to weed out potential terrorists. source

Yeah you Naden, the venerable one. I'm dedicating this topic to you, it's your favourite (or 1 of) subject: butt wiggling boom, boom, boom. With a touch of piquant panache I think you'll like. Enjoy! Click to view short video

Originally posted by Garow: Naxar there is a possibility that the little child is a biter... Loooooooooooooooooooooooooool!

Ah! I see. Rather stay cooped up in your trusty cocoon, heh?

Originally posted by J.Lee: Why you would want to put yourself through all that self-wrenching agony, I'll never know. You can always try and find out for yourself!

Spain... i know they got talen stacked team but very few experts forecast them to break the curse and win.

Stoic, Aren't you Suji, buti or one of the untouchable minorities? Screw Somali Udiida Ceeb, I'm diggin this Shimaali Song: WAXA TAHAY BIL DHALATIYO. And who's the elegantly looking girl?

Who cares about his background. He is a former muslim who knows about Islam than most muslims. His case is example of exceptional knowledge of Islam leading to apostasy. Game set and match! BTW, I honestly didn't suspect HOnesta was a sis WOuld've dealt with her more gently.

My worst JOB? Ms. fickle minded, osmosis prone aka J.Lee

Originally posted by ThePoint: Although - with you - I'm not sure you wouldn't enjoy it all the same. Of course I'd enjoy it... to be open with you it's one of my perpetual carnal fantasies: to be bounced around like ping pong by bevy of butt swinging dames. I thought that was universal male fantasy.

Amelia, Pretty tame comeback dear, what's holding you back. Bare your fangs, sharpen your claws and give me all you got Ms. Valedictorian! I don't cook, others cook for me.

Originally posted by ThePoint: If the stat is from Ibn Warraq - then I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn You can't sell me the Brookly bridge but I'll correct you. I presented no stats from Ibn Warraq, only used him as former muslims who knows more about Islam than the overwhelming majority of Muslims. With the intent to debunk the absurd suggestion that ignorance leads a muslim away from Islam.

Amelia or curling waters, flowing waters, cascading waters, still waters, murky waters or whatever other monikers you call yourself. Listen up little girl: I don't cook. Nor do men of my stature.