Yes it's to much to ask, your mom is right. focus on your region and maybe 20 years from now when all regions are moving forward as oppose to backwards then unity and patriotism can be discussed. As of today somalia is in complete shambles for such talk to even be put in the middle of the agenda, there are otther more alarming issues to be dealt with than somali patriotism or unity. As it stands Somali people don't afford or deserve such luxury. Only healthy states should talk about patriotism, somalia doesn't belong to that category, it's a completly failed state and should be the last of all nations to utter such words.

I would say the clan/people from Gedo, Abudwaaq and Galgadud are the biggest losers and not the Baidoa people.

The best way U.S. could aid Somalia is by helping the country to build it's infrastructure and drop the militaristic counter-terrorism approach, starting with the peacefull regions such as Puntland and then advancing to the less stable regions when they get their act together and able to manage accomodating foreigners.

President Faroole impress me for every day that goes. He's building a firm and nice foundation for us youngsters to place our feet on when our time comes.

"wadanka qarxiyey"? Lol Don't make me laugh man, just go and milk your camel and make yourself usefull for once.

dp

Originally posted by Kashafa: Faroole and the rest of the Ethiopian Protectorate of Piss-Land are prolly shiverin' in their panties, wondering: Will I be next ? Will I be next ? Piss-Land, eh? Don't worry, despite your language we will still help you when your cousins flee the famine in their wilderness and when your sister runs away from stoning due to her being raped. We are all Somalis afterall, who else if not ourselves can aid us from our own shortcommings?

Its just plastic houses, very easy to install. PL has plenty of solar radiation like Almeria.

" Spain's greenhouse effect: the shimmering sea of polythene consuming the land From the lens of a passing satellite, Almería province is one of the most recognisable spots on the planet. The roofs of tens of thousands of closely packed plastic greenhouses form a blanket of mirrored light beaming into space. The shimmering surface is down to an agricultural gold rush that has turned one of Spain's poorest corners into Europe's largest greenhouse. An area so arid and dusty that it provided the backdrop for spaghetti westerns, Almería has made a fortune by covering itself with a canopy of transparent plastic. Above all, it is a monument to the way we now grow our food. Almería, and the area around it, is Europe's winter market garden, spread across 135 square miles. Symbols of hastily acquired wealth abound. Farmers glint with gold jewellery. New shopping malls rise above the plastic. Immigrants from as far off as Mali, Colombia or Ukraine offer their toil and their sweat. Instead of trying to sell cars or banks, billboards advertise seeds. Antonio Moreno, one of thousands of smallholders who have built this plastic jungle, knows how to put fresh tomatoes on British tables in January or courgettes at Christmas. He grows crops that have no direct contact with nature beyond sun, air and water. "You really should wear shorts in here," he says in the 45C (113F) heat as he points to tubes from which tomato plants sprout. Mr Moreno's plants will never touch soil - they grow from bags filled with oven-puffed grains of white perlite stone. Chemical fertilisers are drip-fed to each plant from four large, computer-controlled vats in a nearby room. He talks proudly of his vats. They hold, he says, potassium nitrate, magnesium and potassium sulphate, calcium nitrate and phosphoric acid. "The plants get exactly what they need, nothing more and nothing less," he says. "There is no waste." Swamped He will crop tomatoes continuously from October to July. The greenhouses are so successful that they have swamped the plain of Dalías, where people such as Mr Moreno's father used money earned in French car factories or Swiss restaurants to buy small plots. Now the sheeting is moving up the valleys of the nearby Alpujarra hills, one of Spain's most bucolic, unspoiled areas. Diggers are also gouging terraces in nearby Granada province. "They block up dry riverbeds and destroy mountainsides but nobody does anything, however much we complain," says environmentalist Juan Antonio Martínez, surveying the scarred hills at Albuñol. "If there is a serious storm, much of this will be washed away." A chemical tang hangs in the air along the dried-out bed of the Albuñol, where empty pesticide containers bearing toxic warnings lie among the plastic litter. On the coast at El Pozuelo plastic waste is piled calf-high. "The worst thing is that much of this is done with European Union grants. Money is handed out to young farmers via local authorities who simply ignore the requirement that the environment be respected," he says. The Alpujarras are the adopted home of many northern Europeans offering esoteric treats such as Buddhist retreats or hikes into the snow-capped Sierra Nevadas. Some in the small, white-painted villages are said to be selling up. "We denounce things to the police but nothing happens. It is chaos," says Gari Amtmann, a long-time German resident in Válor village. "For many people this is all they can do to make money." There is growing evidence, too, of more serious damage. In his laboratories at San Cecilio University hospital in Granada, Professor Nicolás Olea has detected a link between some pesticides and increased risk of breast cancer in women and testicular problems in boys. Although Prof Olea has not proved a link, he says the signs for those who work in or live near the greenhouses are too strong to ignore. He points at up to 40kg of pesticide applied per hectare (88lbs per 2.5 acres). "Every time we test the hypothesis, the results point the same way." Pesticide-related residues are now present in umbilical cord blood and placenta. Last month he exposed an increased risk of cryptorchidism (undescended testicles) among boys. But it may take 20 years to prove cause and effect. That, he says, would be too late. "We do not know what will happen, but we have reasonable doubt." Supermarkets British supermarkets are secretive about how much produce comes from Almería. Tesco calls this "commercially sensitive information". But Rafael Losilla, editor of a local farming magazine, names Tesco, Waitrose and Sainsbury's as valued customers. "Britain is the third-biggest export market after France and Germany," he says. Supermarkets said rigorous tests and standards imposed on farmers were in place to prevent goods with excess pesticide residues reaching the shelves. But Prof Olea fears potential dangers are being ignored. "Something may have 10 substances in it that are all at legal levels, but what does the mixture mean? ... Why not measure the combined effect of the cocktail?" However, he recognises UK consumer power has been an unexpected force for good. In the 1990s, British supermarkets became the first to demand rigorous controls - and pay extra for them. "The British are tough to work with," says farmer Juan Segura, who helps run a farmers' cooperative in San Isidro. On the packing line here, small boxes of cherry tomatoes bearing Sainsbury's "sweet and juicy" stickers have been kept back for checks. Quality certificates awarded on behalf of Tesco or by Oxfordshire-based CMi certification company are pulled out. "We do not want to lose them as clients. Co-op members have been thrown out for breaking the rules," says Mr Segura. One packer was sacked after her chewing gum was found on an avocado at a French supermarket. Mr Segura says farmers look for ways to limit pesticide use. "Biological controls" - or getting "good" insects to eat "bad" ones - is the latest solution. But in the driest corner of a country struck by severe drought farmers fret more about water. Drip irrigation may cut waste but aquifers are still drying up. Some are so full of intruding seawater that some crops can no longer be grown. As problems arise farmers seek scientific fixes. Soon some will not even need rainwater. A desalination plant, turning Mediterranean seawater into freshwater, is set to rescue them. That will leave only the sun and air untouched by the human hand, or machinery, before reaching their plants."

I find it extremely interesting in terms of genetic knowledge and explanation for Somalias current political situation. http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?u bb=get_topic;f=15;t=001007

The elders of this region have made it clear that it's part of the federal state Puntland and Somalia as a whole, nothing to do with the phony state called "somaliland".

Somaliland is a lost case, i feel sorry for them.

Originally posted by Naxar Nugaaleed: bandar siyaada, Las qoray and badhan are maakhiri cities. Las Anod is the capital of darwiish region. Can we be respectful leave these cities for their people to develop. They are all part of Puntland, you need to update yourself with the policy of your elders. An emotional internet pseudo-politician can't change the facts on the ground, either you accept the decisions made by your elders or you travel to Somalia and change their decision. No such thing as "Maakhir" exist, even if it did it would eventually in the future be assimilated by the more powerfull neighbour to the east.

Masaskiina goormey gurya noqdeen Those are actually approved and are being buildt at the Dubai creek as we speak. Future skyscrapers are going to take all kind of shapes.

Originally posted by Blessed*: The images of the real city waa xagee? Jordan? Lebanon? Most are Bahrain, Israel, jordan, Abu-dhabi

Originally posted by General Duke: inspector22, adeer they had this type of idea a while back, you might enjoy this. http://www.hafza.com/

Originally posted by *Ibtisam*: HAhaah. Aaah what the hell: Poster: say I believe I can fly, I believe I can touch the sky Why is that? You feel mentally inferior to middle easterners? If they can do it why can't we? Pessimists will always stand still and never develop, don't worry we will build nice refugee camps for internal displaced refugees like you.

Galkacyo

Badhan Las-Anod Eyl Garowe

I'm tired with all the never ending somali politics and bickering, when is the damn oil going to get drilled so that PL can obtain hard currency for projects like these below. The whole world is moving fast, PL needs also to get with the program before it's too late. The future Bender-Siyaad should rise into something similar to this shape. Ras-Hafun Bossasso Badhan

Originally posted by General Duke: Qaw / Bandar Ziyada, Bari, Puntland Somalia Thats my spot lads.. Wow, this place looks real nice, like an oasis with those palm trees. Time for me to start reorganazing my future investment portfolio

I hope he atleast achieves fixing the states road system coz they're in a terrible condition.

Do these students support the new government of somalia? Looks like Puntland is taking an isolationist approach (even the public), which frankly isn't that bad. All regions should take care of themselves before cooperating in a broader level.

Juje wrote: Well in real terms he is a Regional President thus he is a 'governor' already. Which brings me to ask you have you retreated from your previous position calling for the seccesion of Puntland? I knew the emergence of the good Sheikh as Somali President will be changing so many minds Yes i have, things look very optimistic since yesterdy, two weeks ago everything seemed hopeless. I don't think anyone would want to Balkananize Somalia if it isn't really necessery, and two weeks ago things looked very alarming. But today it's worth celebrating atleast for now, somali politcs is very unpredictible. Tomorrow ARS might ally with Al-shabab and attack PL then my opinion will definetly change.

^^ How is that? They clearly rejected the Djibouti agreement and classified it as "meaningless".