We're just starting and within a year you will the the development. Just wait and see. Now see this: Dhahar (QRN)-Wefdigii balaadhnaa ee ka socday Jamhuuriyada Somaliland ee ku sugnaa gobolka Sanaag ee Ceerigaabo oo uu hogaaminayay Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibada JSL Mudane C/laahi Maxamed Ducaale ayaa maanta siweyn loogu soo dhaweeyay Magaalada Dhahar , waxana soo dhaweeyay Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga JSL Mudane Aadan Mire Waqaf , Wasiirka Ciyaaraha JSL Mudane Maxamuud Siciid Maxamed iyo dadweynaha reer Dhahar iyadoo aan loo kala hadhin soo dhawaynta maanta Caruur iyo Ciroolaba. Dhanka kalena waxa ay ciidamada JSL ay ka tallaabeen wadada Laamida ah ee u dhaxaysa Somaliland iyo Soomaaliya, iyaga oo guddi ka tirsan Ciidamada Qaranka ay sahan u tageen Magaalada Shimba oo Toban Kiiloo miter gudaha ah gobolka ******teeniya, kana soo laabteen. Xaga kalena waxa ay wasiiradii ka socday Jamhuuriyada Somaliland ay gudaha Dhahar ka sameeyeen Maamul iyo Booliis suga Nabad gelyada oo ay ugu horeeyaan Jeelasha. Dhinaca kale degmada Buuhoodle Wasiir ku xigeenka Hawlaha guud Mudane C/rashiid Ducaale iyo Xildhibaano , Saraakiil Booliiska iyo Qaranka isugu jira ayaa iyaguna halkaasi ku sugan, waxa dadweynaha iyo Cuqaasha reer Buuhoodle si weyn ugu soo dhaweeyeen , una sameeyeen Casuumad balaadhan , waxana dadweynuhu soo dhaweeyeen Waxqabadka Dawlada JSL u wado. Xukuumada Somaliland waxay u mahad naqaysaa Ciidamada JSL iyo dadweynaha reer Dhahar iyo Buuhoodle Sida Wanaagsan ee ay u soo dhaweeyeen , waxna ula qabteen’’, sidaasi waxa warsaxaafdeed uu maanta xafiiskiisa ka soo saaray ku xusay wasiirka wasaarada warfaafinta Somaliland isla markaasina ah afhayeenka xukumada Somaliland.

No need to go to Garowe sxb ,,,, that is beyond our territory ,,,,,,, don't you realize ppl in Sool and Sanaag are tired of PL's domination ??? Somaliland is warmly welcomed in the region ,,, and that is the end of puntland's admin in the region ,,,, it is gone for good. It is the people sxb not Somaliland, they chose to come back to their original country. Next is more development in the coming 5 years ,,,,

The people in Sanaag and Sool are tired of beig dominated by PL through clan-based illusion ,,,, no significant development was made during the past years and the only thing they get from that Administration was to enroll more troops for fighting in the south or elsewhere in the region. Now the time has come for them to realise the fact, Puntland Admin can't believe this and don't have the support of the people in that region ,,,,,,,,, The coming days will recover more truth as developments will still continue. I won't call for WAR though ,,,,,, that is not good for anyone.

hahahahahaha ,,,, desparate individuals iga dheh i don't know if i feel for them or laugh at them ,,,, i think i'll do both

and how many died in Mogadishu between 1991 - 2006 ???? ,,,,,,,,, don't tell me Melez did it sxb ..........

and how many died in Mogadishu between 1991 - 2006 ???? ,,,,,,,,, don't tell me Melez did it sxb ..........

The Source plz ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Thanks for sharing though ,,,,,,,

Please don't close the topic or someone i know will eat your dinner tonight ,,,,, waar Hunguri, let them think in that way niyow ,,,, here is where we know who is smart from who is not ,,,,,,, i really like when ppl can't figure me out ,,,,,, Any how,,,, are we one-in-two OR two-in-one ???

U know what ?? ,, some ppl have secret crashes and this reminds them of that then they can't ignore until they read the whole 4 pages and at the end they can't sleep coz of that memories ,,,, then they have nothing to do but to get up to the computer and make a post of NONSENSE ,,, just get relief so that they can sleep in peace Imagine someone reading 4+ pages then at the end saying THIS IS NONSENSE ,,,,,,,,

CC, I always thought you can read somali ,,,

Sxb ,, PL decided to leave the territory, SL is on the move but can't jump in that quickly coz it is a military tactics ,,,,,

hahahahaha ,,,,,, ,,,,, thanks for making my day are you confused of that army with all those stuff ??? ,,,,,, it is Somaliland sxb ,, u gotta believe it

Bada cas, they are in control of the whole region ,,, not only the city ,,,, go for the news and the other thread posted on SOL

Originally posted by Che-Guevara: quote:Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: They are officially back now ,,,,,,,,, area is secured and the case is closed Only if everything was that simple. It was indeed ,,,,,,,,,,,, unexpected though

It was indeed ,,,,,,,,,,,, unexpected though

loooool@suntii ayaxa

They are officially back now ,,,,,,,,, area is secured and the case is closed

I'm here by officially congratulating Hunguri for his good work ,,,,,,,,,, Hunguri, you are hereby guaranted for the NOPEL ROMANCE ADVISORY PRISE ,,,,,,,

loooooooooooooooooooool ,,,,,,,,,

It is good ppl to talk about you first ,,,,, then the action will come automatically

Forensic report on mass graves in the vicinity of Hargeisa The presence of mass graves in Hargeisa was brought to the IE's attention in the summer of 1997. The account of events following the discovery of the remains, confirmed by the UNDP Office for Somalia, indicated that several hundred bodies were unearthed and then re-buried by the local community. Information indicated that the victims had been bound by the wrist and roped together in groups of 10 to 15 individuals and were believed to have been killed by government troops in 1988 during the regime of President Siad Barré. In the report to the 1998 Commission (E/CN.4/1998/96), the IE called for steps to be taken to preserve the evidence at the sites for possible use at a later stage. A mission to conduct an on-site forensic assessment of alleged mass graves was carried out by Physicians for Human Rights, an NGO, under the auspices of the OHCHR. The mission took place in December 1997. Among the tasks of the forensic experts were: (a) determination of the nature of the graves and a preliminary assessment on the conditions of the remains and types of injuries to the bodies; (b) assessment of all logistical considerations regarding the exhumation and examination of all the graves; © and the conducting of a one-day workshop for the local authorities and NGOs to provide them with basic information on how to determine whether corpses discovered in a mass grave are the result of a massacre and how to preserve evidence. The forensic report prepared for the 1999 Commission ( E/CN.4/1999/103/ Add.1) reviews conditions leading to the creation, discovery and partial excavation of the grave sites and notes, inter alia, that: (a) a total of 92 to 116 alleged mass grave features were observed in three areas examined by the forensic team; (b) the nature of the graves, evidence of peri-mortem injury, and the occurrence of bodies bound together by ligature, in combination with the haphazard placement of the bodies in the graves led to the conclusion that the deaths of these individuals were suspicious, and constituted a violation of human rights; and © features described by witnesses as mass graves are indeed mass graves. The recommendations in the report included that: given the number of graves in the vicinity, the location of all known mass graves be mapped; a limited and representative sample of graves be fully exhumed and the victims examined by an international team of forensic experts; for those graves not the subject of an in-depth forensic investigation, they be excavated by the Somaliland authorities, with the assistance of local physicians specially trained in forensic analysis of skeletal remains; advance preparations in Somaliland include the location and securing of facilities for storage examination remains selection training a forensic analysis team composed medical doctors as well local excavationadministrative issues concerned with certification death final disposition be resolved prior to start excavations; forensic investigations be undertaken in the dry season; a preparation lead time of approximately five to six months be arranged to develop and implement the logistics of the mission; and training and assistance be provided to the Somaliland Administration in regard setting up its own forensic team for purposes of performing controlled excavations mass graves osteological analysis recovered human remains. The report also recommended that the UN, in consultation with the Technical Committee: provide assistance to the Technical Committee relating to the procedures for the collection of witness testimony; provide assistance to the Technical Committee relating to compiling a comprehensive grave registry, including detailed survey, in the vicinity of Hargeisa, as well as in other regions and towns with suspected mass graves; establish a means of providing financial support for the conduct of thorough investigations of alleged and known mass grave sites and human rights violations linked to the period 1988 to the present; and authorize and assemble an international team of forensic specialists, working with local professionals for the purpose of conducting investigations of selected mass graves and encourage and support additional forensic investigations conducted by local professionals trained in forensic methods, assisted by international specialists. Resolution of the Commission on Human Rights The Commission adopted by consensus a resolution on assistance to Somalia in the field of human rights (1999/75). The Commission, inter alia: noted with concern the persisting lack of a central authority and the ongoing armed conflict in Somalia; welcomed efforts by international and regional governmental organizations to bring about peace, national reconciliation, unity and reconstruction; expressed its wish that human rights issues be integrated into these efforts; welcomed the integration of human rights issues into the programmes of a number of UN agencies; noted with concern the forensic report on mass graves in Hargeisa; expressed deep concern at reports of arbitrary and summary executions, torture and ill-treatment, violence against women and children, the absence of an effective judicial system; condemned widespread violations and abuses of human rights and international humanitarian law, in particular against minorities, women and children; and condemned any violation of international law on armed conflict (e.g. hostage-taking and abduction). The Commission also, inter alia: urged all parties to: respect human rights and international humanitarian law pertaining to internal armed conflict; support the re-establishment of rule of law throughout the country, in particular by applying internationally accepted criminal justice standards; and protect UN personnel, humanitarian relief workers and NGO representatives as well as representatives of international media. The Commission called upon: all parties to the conflict to work towards a peaceful solution to the crisis; subregional, regional and international organizations and concerned countries to continue and intensify coordinated efforts aimed at facilitating the national reconciliation process; individual donor countries and others to incorporate human rights principles and objectives in the humanitarian and development work being carried out. The Commission also extended the mandate of the IE for a further year, welcomed the decision of the High Commissioner for Human Rights to appoint a human rights officer in the framework of the office of the UN Resident Humanitarian Coordinator for Somalia, and stressed the importance of implementing that decision. FULL REPORT

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You not forced to do so ,,,,,,,,, the guilty always closes his eyes and wish he was not born This will continue sxb ,,, and more are expected in the coming years

CC, why everybody is jelaous about us ???

There were heavy rains, and the track between Baidoa and Labaatan Jirow Maximum Security was all but impassable. We were blindfolded as we left Baidoa to prevent us from knowing where Labaatan Jirow was. Inside each one of us was taken to cell . The cell was completely empty, 7x7 feet with a hole in the right hand corner. This was toilet since no one would be allowed to go out at all. The walls were unplastered and made of reinforced concrete. There were two successive doors for each cell. The inner floor remained looked at all times and consisted of heavy steel bars. The outer door, which Was opened from 7:00 A.M to 4:00 P.M. each day, was one heavy sheet of iron without even a small hole in it. This door was normally closed during punishment periods that were quite frequent because the slightest sound constituted ‘misbehaver’ in the eyes of the soldier. There were about 150 soldiers outside, equipped with heavy artillery and anti-aircraft guns. All the soldiers, both inside and outside the prison, were members of the military police. The soldiers outside were to protect the prison from attack. There was no custodial corps in Labaatan Jirow. Administratively, the special prison was run direct from the president’s office in Mogadishu. The overall membership of the military police in the country was predominantly *******. They had wide powers of search, arrest, and interrogation. They also manned all control posts throughout the country, using their powers to extort property from the population. Every single soldier from the prison warden Colonel Deria Hirsi to male nurse Dheel Deria Yussuf, was a *******-clan of Siad Barre, the president. The regime denied the very existence of a prison called Labaatan Jirow. In fact the only people, who have ever seen it apart from Siad Barre himself, were builders, prisoners or the prison administrators. Prisoner’s sketch from memory. We learnt of others who had been there at one time or another between 1981 and 1989. They included: Mohamed Yussuf Weyrah, ex-minister of finance Abdillahi Mohammed Nour, army major Warsama Ali Farah, ex-mayor of Modadishu who died in prison in 1983 Ali Easa Islam, police inspector Mohamed Ali Jama, army capt., released in 1984 Mohamoud Islam Abdille, army captains Ahmed Hashi, army captains Gaboobeh Abdi Samatar (Iridyambo), army captain Ahmed Dhore Farah, businessman, still in prison when we left in 1989 Mohamoud Malin, civil servant Sheikh Mukhtar, lawyer Yussuf Osman Samatar, in prison since 1968 Hussein Ahmed, an Ethiopian airforce colonel 1976-still in prison when we left in 1989 On the second day after our arrival, I was given a blanket, an aluminum cup, a plastic plate and a small plastic bucket for water. Everyday each prisoner was given a bucket of water for all purposes such as drinking and ablution before prayers, washing up the utensils and cleaning the toilet. We were not provided with clothes, and ours were taken away. I was left with a T-shirt, a Ma-awis ( the traditional Somali cloth wrapped round the lower body) a pair of sandals cut from an old tire, kabo shaag in Somali. We were given millet gruel for breakfast and boiled rice with a glass of powdered milk for lunch. This was the usual prison fare for the next six and a half years. Only occasionally, perhaps once every three to six months, a goat would be killed, boiled and each prisoner given a tiny piece with his rice. These were ‘feast’ days for us and they would be signaled the day before by the bleat of a goat. The ‘feast’ day unusual movement and numbers of crows in the prison compound would confirm itself. A bleat one-day and increased crow activity definitely indicated goat meat. A bleat therefore became a beautiful song to our ears. Every time one of us heard it, whether in the morning, afternoon or in the middle of the night we would immediately transmit the good news to neighbor the delicious part of the goat they would like to get and, in due course, the part actually received. One comic incident comes into mind. Dr. Osman dreamt one night during a particularly meatless period, that he heard the bleat of a goat. He woke up and transmitted the news to his neighbors. Everybody stayed up the rest of the night discussing the good omen. The next morning, a group of crows chased one of their numbers holding a piece of red meat in its beak. We all saw this. It was more than enough to lift our spirits. We watched the lucky crows with hungry eyes as they flew back and forth playfully. Suddenly the lucky crow released the meat. We all waited for it to fall to the ground. But lucky crow released the meat. We all waited for it to fall to the ground. But no; the ‘meat’ stayed up in the air, floating! The crows kept it playfully in the air; it was a piece of cellophane bag. Food in all such facilities is the main conversation topic. Even when alone, one daydreams about food. We made many a joke about our yearnings for food. Dr. Osman was asked once by his neighbor through the wall to name his best wish at that particular moment. Without hesitation he said ‘meat’. Only after we asked him about freedom did he laugh and said of course. One became obsessed with food, which was brought in a big barrel pushed on a wheelbarrow. As soon as we heard the noise of the wheelbarrow we literally started to salivate, like Pavlov’s dog, even for millet gruel. The greatest problem was during the holy month of Ramadan, when Muslims fast from dawn to sunset. We were given food only during the night, to break our fast at six in the evening and 3 o’clock the next morning. The early evening was no problem but at 3 in the morning the soldier violently opened the doors. If you were not ready at the door with your plate, they just locked up the door and that was that. Your next meal would then be fifteen hours later, at six in the evening. We usually solved this problem by assigning one person to stay awake each night. As soon as he heard the noise of the wheelbarrow he would wake up everybody. Even if we got the meal, darkness was a problem in the cell. The soldiers brought hurricane lamps with them, but as soon as they locked up, it was pitch black. With the smell of food came attacks from all quarters-cockroaches, mice and ants. We tried to cover the plate with one hand and eat with the other. The cockroaches were particularly vicious. They would fly from the walls above the toilet and land on your face and plate and refuse to take no for an answer. If you were squeamish you went hungry. Confronted with poor food, shortage of water, lack of sanitation facilities, immobility, lack of reading material and isolation not only from the rest of the world, but from any fellow prisoners, the first few days in Labaatan Jirow were the most difficult. All contributed to a sense of incomprehension and depression. I tried to get in touch with my friends on either side of me. But as soon as one uttered a word even sotto voce, soldier would be at the doorstep closing the main iron door. There were no warnings given in that prison. Very soon we learned that shouting to each other behind the doors would only bring more punishment. We had to content ourselves with knocking on the wall between the cells when the soldier were not looking even warned not to write anything on the walls. It is literally impossible to desist from scratching something on prison walls in solitary confinement because that is about the only way left to express oneself. But we had to be careful. Obviously my predecessors took their warnings seriously and did not dare to write on the walls. Only much later, while I was sitting on the floor and looking at the walls in front of me, I saw something on the wall. Where the soldiers could not possibly see was EGAL written in capital letters. This was the name of Somalia’s last civilian prime minister much later to be ‘president’ of the Somaliland Republic. He spent 7 years here. The most powerful man in the country had been reduced to writing his name on that corner of the cell to express his protest. I felt for him at that time. I did see one grim example of protest graffiti in the large cell I shared with 20 friends in Hargeisa’s main prison where we had stayed for 8 months before we were transferred to Labaatan Jirow. On a wall opposite where I slept, clearly written were the names of 7 male prisoners, every name apparently written by a different person. Every one added a comment after his name. Most of them wrote the name of somebody loved. One had poignantly written "SIYAD BARRE SAYS WE DIE TOMORROW ON THE 28 APRIL 1981 BY FIRING SQUAD-SIYAD BARRE SAYS BUT ALLAH DID NOT SAY. But for those seven prisoners who signed their names on the wall of that grim prison, as for so many Somalis before and after them, there was no divine intervention. They were shot on the 28th. Now they rest in Allah,s peace. They were all civilians belonging to the MIJERTAIN clan, accused of belonging to the Somali Salvation Democratic Front (SSDF), the first opposition movement to fight the Siad Barre regime. One of the cruelest things was the treatment during illnes. Even if they believed you, seeing that you were really in pain, they gave you insufficient doses or the wrong drugs. There was only one old male nurse for health care in the prison. We called him doctor No because his first response was always negative. Later on, when we learnt to communicate with each other through the walls between the cells, we were able to seek advice from the four real doctors amongst us. The doctors advised us to keep asking from the four real doctors amongst us. The doctor advised us to keep asking for drugs, particularly aspirins, sedatives, anti-pain drugs, antibiotics and chloroquinine against malaria and to hoard them even when we were well. This method helped us whenever one of us fell ill and doctor No would not come to see him or refused to issue medicines. We were able to pass medicines to each other because we had one exercise period of 10 minutes every three days, excluding Thursdays and Fridays. Exercise periods were taken one person at a time, but if that person had drugs to pass on he would inform the person next to him through the walls who would pass on the information to his neighbor and so on until the person needing the drugs was reached. Medicines would be dropped at a prearranged place for the ill person to pick up during his turn of exercise. The walk took place between two door 30 meters apart with one soldier at each end. We always dropped drugs near a small shrub halfway between the two doors. However, sometimes we were not given exercise periods for 3 or 4 consecutive months or even more. This usually coincided with periods of tension in the country as we found out later. For example we did not have exercise periods after May 1988 as a result of the war in the North. I have calculated that we came out of the cells during six and half years for only 72 hours. Major health problems were mainly connected with immobility, tension, anxiety, fear, depression, insomnia and poor diet. Most of us suffered psychosomatic ailments and doctor No always succeeded in aggravating these conditions. During our sojourn, two men died due to negligence. One of them, WARSAME ALI FARAH, who was in his seventies, was taken to Mogadishu but died there two days later. According to the official pathological report he died of kidney failure, but there is no doubt that he died of criminal negligence. He had been mayor of the capital city. One of the detainees who fell very ill had been held since the 1978 coup attempt. ABDILLAHI MOHAMED NOUR had been asking for drugs for six months. On 1 May 1986 he started shouting at the top of his voice. The place was normally dead quiet and we all put our ears against the doors to hear what was happening. He started reciting his autobiography. The authorities closed the outer iron door on him. They came in the night took him shouting Allah! Allah! This continued on and off for about two hours. He never stopped his sporadic shouting until he was released in February 1989. The soldiers never attempted to treat him for his disturbance, as far as we know. When we were released, we found out that he had been badly maimed that night. Sadly, Abdillahi is still mentally disturbed. Release, when, after many a long year, it eventually came, was as dramatic as the manner of our arrest. One morning in Mid-March, two soldiers followed by the male nurse stopped in front of my cell; and for the first time in six and a half years called me by name. They wanted to know whether I was called Mohamed Barood Ali. I took me a while to comprehend the meaning of the query, before I stammered yes. A cardboard box containing some few clothes was half pushed, half thrown through the bars of the inner door. They left me open-mouthed without saying another word. I could hear them stopping in front of my neighbors door and talking to him, although I could not hear what they were saying. Suddenly I was overwhelmed by a thousand thoughts all incoherent and fantastic. About 2 o'clock in the afternoon, soldiers all of them dressed for parade, stopped in front of my door and one of them told me to collect my things. There was nothing I wanted to take from that cell and I started towards the door almost running and breathless. They opened the door and told me to walk. He told me to sit down on a wooden form. I beheld coming through the door my friends, one by one. They all seemed strangers: I had not seen them for six and a half years. At first we said hello to each other as if we had only met a few hours ago. But then someone started laughing hysterically and we all started hugging each other and laughing. We were separated into three groups and put in the back of Land Rovers. We were never sure where we were going but reached Mogadishu after five hours drive. We were immediately taken to the Villa Somalia, Siad Barre's state palace on a hill in the center of Mogadishu. We saw the fabled cheetah royally kept and looked after by a platoon of guards. While waiting to be received at the court of the dictator, we had the first opportunity to speak to each other, because on the way we had been warned that if anyone uttered a word, he was to be shot. I was generally shocked by the sight of my emaciated friends who were comparable to survivors of a concentration camp. All had aged a lot. The effects of anxiety and solitary confinement were all too visible on all their faces. Some were unusually withdrawn; others laughed hysterically, and yet others exhibited signs of morbid fear and nervously watched the soldiers as if expecting to be attacked at any moment. General Siad, who usually worked at night, kept us waiting for a long time but we were never bored for a moment. We had so much to say to each other and a rising excitement replaced our usual mood of listlessness and apathy. Finally, when we were summoned into the presence of Siad Barre, we found him seated behind a huge mahogany desk. He was smoking, as always, with an attendant standing one step behind him, holding a packet of cigarettes and a lighter. He appeared much older than I expected, with vacant, tired-looking eyes. There were eight in our group, but Siad ordered Dr. Mohammoud Hassan Tani to remain outside because he was of a different clan than the rest of us. This was typical of the man, who was always exploiting the clan divisions in Somali society to remain in power. Siad inquired of each of us whether or not we had been guilty of the offenses for which we had been sentenced in 1982, more than seven years previously. But he did not listen or await any response. He started railing away at us, saying that we were traitors.(Dr. Mohamoud Tani later revealed to us that Siad had predictably, asked him why he had involved himself with such a group of anti-government subversives as ourselves.) After delivering this monologue, Siad announced that we were pardoned but that we must refrain from getting involved in anti-government activities in the future. He dismissed us by standing up and we were ushered out of his quarters by a group of bodyguards who left us in the middle of the street. We had no money and we did not know where to go. It was about 3 o'clock in the morning. The writer of this excerpt, Dr. Mohamed Baarod Ali,later became the "Somali-land" minster resposnsible for Rehabilitation. LABAATAN JIROW