Great ... I missed the opening session of yesterday although I had the invitation ..... was too busy. will be there today Insha Allah

HALAKAN

For most Somalis general Samatar’s case brings raw emotions to the surface that go to the root cause of why the Somali state came apart. The reaction to his trial and the Supreme Court verdict denying him immunity for his actions while in charge of the formidable Somali army and their role in the genocide in Somaliland and destruction of towns is quite telling. He is either a saint or a Satan incarnated depending on where one stands (in the line of fire or behind the guns). It is important to note that those defending Samater most vociferously are not denying the bombings of Hargeisa, or the deaths of tens of thousands of people, the mass rapes, summary executions and torture chambers visited on ordinary people throughout Somaliland. They are objecting to finally assigning official responsibility to general Samatar and by extension the former leaders of the government of Somalia. It is difficult to argue on the one hand that the unity of all Somalis is sacrosanct and on the other deny the very actions that brought us where we are; not holding accountable those responsible for the very condition that brought about the demise of Somalia is not conducive to bringing us back together. Since the actions of general Samatar are not defensible, the argument most often used by those who support him is that we should forget and forgive what happened in the past and move on. Now, that is an admirable sentiment consistent with Somali traditions and it highlights the immense capacity of the people and their rich culture to overcome adversity brought about by tribal warfare in the past. The irony is that this tradition has been practiced only in Somaliland where all the resident tribes came together in peace and pledged to build their nation back together in 1991. The difference in this case is that the genocide that happened in Somaliland was not tribal warfare; it was the act of a government, using all the considerable and destructive instruments of power it could muster including fighter planes dropping bombs on Hargeisa, tanks shelling the cities, and soldiers shooting at people indiscriminately as they attempted to flee the city. The carnage of civilians was so horrific it drove a Somali fighter pilot to defect to Djibouti with his plane because he could not bear to watch what was taking place below him. South African mercenaries had no such difficulties and literally bombed every structure in the city, until there was not a single house or building standing. This was done in the name of the Somali government which supposedly represented all Somalis at the time including the very people it was actively attempting to exterminate. When asked whether he (general Samatar) authorized the level of destruction inflicted on the second largest city in Somalia, the general readily admitted that he indeed gave the orders to level the city. He was speaking at the Press Club in Washington DC responding to a question posed by a BBC reporter (recording available in Youtube). The estimates of how many people were killed during the Somaliland massacre range from 50,000 to 150,000 people, some killed as a direct result of the military campaign, others rounded up and killed by the security forces like the civilians who were randomly picked in the middle of the night and shot by a firing squad at a Mogadishu beach. What was their crime? They were all from Somaliland, or their parents were originally from Somaliland. There is a name for this kind of act; it is called a war crime, genocide, a crime against humanity itself! It would have been a travesty of justice of immense proportion if this case was not allowed to proceed and the multitude of victims living or dead were denied their day in court to tell the world what really happened to them, describe the monsters inhabiting their dreams and the man responsible for their creation. When all was said and done the general was found liable on all counts; war crimes, extra judicial killing, torture and a host of human right abuses. In essence the court found him personally responsible for the atrocities visited on the people of Somaliland, and the only reason why he was not dragged to jail was because this was a civil trial and he could only be found liable to the charges facing him, and that is exactly what happened. Facing overwhelming evidence the general folded and accepted responsibility to all the allegations facing him despite repeated queries from the judge probing his understanding of what he was pleading liable to. The fact that he declared bankruptcy the night before the trial was to begin was immaterial, this was never about money, it was about justice, and the need to establish a precedent so that those in power would know that no place on earth is safe for them when they commit crimes such as the one committed by general Samater and the regime he served. To oppose the survivors of such horrors to stand up in a court of law and look at the face of their tormentor speaks volumes about the lack of compassion and empathy from those who purport to have the best intentions for Somalia and Somalis. It is not enough to say you have good intentions, or that it is best to forget. One has to defer those heavenly gestures to those who have something to forget or forgive, so if one is seeking a mature way of addressing this issue, or is interested in improving relations among the Somaliland and Somalia divide, one should have the decency and the honesty to acknowledge the obvious facts of the case and respect the individual as well as the collective pain of this remarkable people as they come to term with their past and chart a promising future for themselves. Ultimately this is a case of basic human right – to have your day in court, and the principle of equal justice under the law prevailed, because in the land of liberty, everyone is entitled to petition the Court when seeking remedy for wrongs done to him or her. Whether someone wins or loses is up to the Judge or Jury to decide, but a day in court is all the plaintiffs wanted, and that is precisely what they got! What lessons we draw from this experience is for each of us to decide, but as far as I am concerned a path has been lit and I am glad to have been a witness to immense courage and dignity by ordinary people facing extra ordinary events in their lives. I bid you peace Mahdi Ahmed Abdi (Gabose) USA.

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i don't mind about that ....

“In Somaliland lagu yidhaa waxaad ka mid tihiin gobol ka mid ah soddanka gobol ee la kala sheegsheeganayo, u malaymaayo in dadka iyo madaxda Somalialnd ay yeelayaan” Pro Samatar Like it would safe his face ..... too late loser

Somaliland Vs Somalia ..... a good step forward

Experts are talking now ,,,

Smart azz ... he knows the tide has changed and he is following. Good decision ,, others will follow

Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)-Waxa maanta is heer sare ah loogu soo dhaweeyey garoonka diyaaradaha ee Cigaal International Airport ee magaalada Hargeysa Sheekh Shariif Makididi oo ah wiil mucjiso ah oo u dhashay dalka Tanzania, isla markaana ah xaafudul quraan mujicso ku noqday dunidda islaamka ka dib markii uu hadlay isagoo sagaal bilood jir ah, markii isaga oo yar uu hadlay. waxa uu meelo badan oo dunida ka mid ah ka soo jeediyay muxaadirooyin diin ah. Waxa madaarka Hargeysa kaga hortagay Wasiirka Diinta iyo Awqaafta Somaliland Sheekh Khaliil Cabdillaahi Axmed oo marti-qaadka uu dalka ku yimid isagu u fidiyay iyo culimo-awdiin tiro-badan iyo Guddiga wanaag farista iyo dadweyne kale oo aad u tiro-badan. Sheekh Shariif ayaa sheegay inuu aad ugu faraxsan yahay socdaalkiisa Somaliland qeyb ka yahay safaro uu ku marayo dalalka Afrikaanka. Sheekh Shariif Makididi oo ka hadlayay socdaalkiisa Hargeysa wuxuu yidhi “Horta inshaallah ILAAHAY (SWT) ayaanu ugu mahad-celineynaa ILAAHAY amarkiisa iyo awoodiisa ayaanu ku soo gaadhay Somaliland. Anigu safarkaygan aanu Somaliland ku nimi ujeedadiisu waa safar diini ah oo afrika oo dhan ayaanu ku wareegaynaa, waxaanu samaynaynaa.” Wasiirka Diinta iyo Awqaafta Sheekh Khaliil Cabdilaahi Axmed ayaa sheegay in shacbiga iyo xukuumadda Somaliland ay niyadsami ku soo dhawaynayaan Sh. Shariif Mekididi, waxaanu yidhi “Muddo 10 maalmood ah ayuu Sheekhu dalka joogayaa oo culimada oo dhan ayay is arkayaan oo madaxda dalka ayay is arkayaan, waxaanan rajanaynaa ILAAHAY subxaanuhu watacalaa inuu karaamadiisa khayriisa siiyo.” “Aniguna walaaltinimo iyo kalkacayl aynu ku soo dhaweeynaynaa waa dalkiisii labaad ama han idhaahdo dalkii koowaad waa qof muslin ah oo karaamo leh,”ayuu yidhi Wasiirka Diinta iyo Waqaaftu. Wiilkan Xaafudul qur’aanka ah ayaa la filayaa inuu maalinta khamiista ah ka jeediyo beerta xorriyadda muxaadiro diiniya oo uu u jeedin doono dadweynaha reer Hargeysa.

Hargeysa (Somaliland.Org)- Madaxweyne Ku xigeenka Somaliland ahna Ku simaha Madaxweynaha Md. C/Raxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil ayaa maanta xafiiskiisa ku qaabiley wefti uu hoggaaminayay Sheekha caanka ka ah dunida islaamka ee dhalinyarada ah ee Shariif Makididi oo socdaal ku yimid magaaladda Hargeysa. Wasiirka diinta iyo awqaafta Somaliland Sh. Khaliil Cabdilaahi Axmed oo ka hadlay kulankaasi ayaa sheegay in Sheekh Shariif Makididi mutunga uu yahay caalim weyn oo faafinta dacwadda islaamka isku xil saaray oo waddamo badan oo adduunka ahna muxaadirooyin ka jeediyay. Wasiirku wuxuu sheegay in muxaadirooyinka sheekhan dhalinyarada ah ay ku islaameen dad lagu qadaray sideetan kun iyo lix boqol oo qof oo ku dhaqan wadamo kala duwan oo adduunka ah. Sheekh Khaliil waxa uu intaasi ku daray in sheikh Shariif Makididi uu hadlay isagoo sagaal bilood oo qudha jiray, taasina ay noqotay mucjiso aad u weyn oo uu ILAAHAY ku galaday. Sheekh Shariif Makididi oo kulankaasi ka hadlay ayaa culimada, wasiirka diinta iyo awqaafta iyo madaxweyne Ku xigeenka Somaliland uga mahad celiyay sida diiran ee ay u qaabileen, waxaanu tilmaamay in Somaliland tahay dalkii 11-aad ee uu muxaadirooyin iyo dacwada faafinta islaamka uu ku tago. Waxa uu sheegay inuu muxaadirooyin u jeedin doono dadweynaha ku dhaqan magaaladda Hargeysa maalinta khamiista ee fooda inagu soo haysa. Ku-simaha Madaxweynaha Somaliland ahna Madaxweyne Ku xigeenka Somaliland Md. C/Raxmaan Cabdilaahi Ismaaciil (Saylici) ayaa u mahad celiyay Sh. Shariif Makididi, waxaanu tilmaamay inuu shacbiga iyo xukuumadda ka heli doono soo dhawayn wanaagsan. “Waxaan u rajaynayaa mudada aad joogtid Somaliland inaad khayr ku dhamaysatid socdaalkaaga shacbiga Somaliland-na diyaar ayay idiin yihiin inay muxaadirooyinkiina. Dawladduna waxay diyaar u tahay inay ilaaliso amnigiina,”ayuu yidhi Madaxweyne Ku xigeenka Somaliland. Ugu dambayntii waxa uu sheekhu halkaasi ka soo jeediyay duco aad u dheer oo uu Somaliland iyo bulshada ku dhaqan ugu duceeyay khayr isla markaana uu ILAAHAY uga baryay inuu sii adkeeyo nabad-gelyadooda.

Burco waa loogu taag la'yahay ,,,,,

,, ma mid kaluu samaystay ?? ,,,, waa kii xaajiyada uu ka qarinayay malaa dee kaasi Ngonge, waa sheeko dheer the Shisha spot but gov mabay ogayn lool

:D .... Kulmiye Kulmiye Kulmiyeeeeeeeeeeeee

The office is already open .... good to see Toyota establishing itself in SL

Stuff & Nonsense ...

Elections ??? ,,,,,, ! ! ! ! !

The Saracen issue is a UN thing now sxb .... Now, which one of the two ,,, ??

Puntland Norwegian Naval Commander which one of the two ,,, ??

NGONGE;795941 wrote: Jacaylbaro, shiisha in Hargeisa? Officially in shops or just in houses warya? It was officially in shops ... but then it was only one place aka restaurant ... and then it was closed ,,,, then, it might be reopen this summer Long story anyway dee ,,, lol Good Afternoon yall ...

HALKAN

I salute Rt. Hon. Cameron for organizing this Conference on Somalia and those who have made time to be here today. History has shown that a three-tiered approach is the correct way of handling African crises. The three-tiers are: The internal stakeholders, the respective regional efforts and international partners. Where external forces usurp the role of solving African problems unilaterally, failure and catastrophe are almost assured. This is what happened in Congo in the 1960s and in Rwanda in the 1990s. Where Africans take the lead in partnership with others, results are better. This is what happened with the independence of Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Angola and with the majority rule in South Africa. Sometimes, African regional efforts result in providing solutions for example, the defeat of Idi Amin in Uganda, the ending of genocide in Rwanda and the defeat of Mobutu in DR Congo. In the de-colonisation of southern Africa, Africa worked with the Soviet Union and China as well as liberals and leftists in the West. On the issue of Burundi, it was the internal stakeholders within the country, the regional effort and the UN. It was the same packaging with respect to the problem of the Sudan. I would also like to salute the financial and material contribution already made to AMISOM by our partners from outside the continent in the on-going efforts in Somalia. This conference is, therefore, most timely. I am glad Mr. Cameron has invited all the legitimate stakeholders: The Somali TFG, other Regional authorities in Somalia, IGAD, the African Union (AU), those of us who are involved in Somalia, the AU through its chairman, H.E. Yayi Boni President of the Republic of Benin, the AU Commission chairman by the names of Prof. Jean Ping and our partners from beyond Africa. This is the type of packaging that is legitimate, credible and effective. Coming to the Somali problem, I detect five problems: -First, the Somalis themselves have to understand that modern life demands that your economic interests cannot be taken care of in your village alone. The people in the villages of Somalia need the people of Mogadishu to buy their farm produce and the people in the rural areas buy the shop products of the people of Mogadishu. I always like to use the example of Uganda to expose the bankruptcy of sectarianism in Africa. My Banyankore groups all produce milk and bananas. Since they produce similar products, they cannot buy from one another. It is the people of Kampala and other parts of Uganda that emancipate the Banyankore from poverty by buying what they produce. Not only do the Banyankore need the whole of Uganda to buy their products in order for them to be prosperous, they need the whole of East Africa and Central Africa to sell their products and get out of underdevelopment. A modern life requires specialisation and exchange of products. We, therefore, need markets and integration to create those markets in a continent that was balkanised by colonialism. -However, these markets cannot function if there is no security. This forms the second factor in the Somali problem. We should assist the Somali government to expel the al-Shabaab chauvinists from all the strategic areas of the Somali territory if not from the whole territory of Somalia. -Thirdly, sectarianism is reinforced by the prolonged absence of a representative national Government and institutions in Somalia. It is good that the Somali in Djibouti, in the Kampala Accord, in Garowe and other places have already agreed to end the transitional phase in August, 2012 and have agreed to elect a representative or an accountable government, possibly using some crude formula but a formula that will produce an accountable government. The need to establish an accountable government has the possibility of forcing factions (sectarian or otherwise) to work together because no single clan can win national power by itself through a democratic election. Democracy, in whatever form, forces groups to seek for alliances. To be a warlord, you do not need internal alliances. You can be a warlord by solely depending on external sponsors. We commend and encourage the Somali people on this path they have chosen. -Fourthly, in my language, there is a saying which translates that ‘you estimate that a starved man may die in two days but he ends up dying in only one day.’ The starving people of Somalia must get relief. Africa and her partners were able to raise close to $350m in a pledging conference in Addis Ababa last year. There is need for the world to contribute more and promptly to this effort. -Fifthly, there are elements of the infrastructure that may need to be repaired to enable her to come back to normalcy. Somalia needs assistance in this area. Finally, the piracy problem in Somalia waters must get a solution. The main problem here is not in the ocean but on land. It is because there is no control of the Somali coastline that the pirates use it as a springboard to attack the ships in the ocean and come back in safety to the uncontrolled coastline. Therefore, the durable answer to this problem is controlling the Somali mainland or at least the coastline. This is where our efforts should be directed. The countries of Western Europe, the USA, China, India, Russia and Brazil, by working closely with Africa, can open up new huge possibilities for mankind. The population of Africa is now one billion people. Our population will be three billion in 2075. The prosperity of Africa is growing. While the economies in the West have been having problems, the economies in Africa are continuing to grow, some of them growing very fast. If we work together, we shall be able to, at last, cause socio-economic transformation on a global scale, unlike in the past when there were only islands of prosperity in a few corners of the globe while the rest of the world is inhabited by impoverished peoples. We call this phenomenon ‘unbalanced development’ in the world. Let us build a middle class, a skilled working class population on a global scale. I thank you. President of the Republic of Uganda Yoweri Museveni

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To all the Diaspora Somalis, let us forget the hypocritical and empty “United Somalia” slogan for a moment and support the two state solution. Let us work hard to bring peace and prosperity for Somalia, Somaliland and to the entire Horn of Africa region. U dhug yeelo .....