i agree with cali wayne. well said bro i wouldn't let a woman pay for me, if i did i wouldn't feel a man. leting a woman pay. damn. if i am broke. i would tell the girl, let's not go out these days, untill i get a job. that's all. but never would she pay for me.

if the two ppl are married the person who cheated should be stoned to death. boyfriend girlfriend, who cares, anyways the whole thing was haram. i would just leave, and never talk to her again. i wouldn't even look at her face. lose all the respect for her.

Nin yaaban nice topics man, u seem to bring the topics ppl avoid, nice, for being urself, and keeping ur calture man. for that said, u still have to be carefull mixing the calture and the religion ok bro. as for ppl like jam master, and who ever agreed with him, who said what about 4 husbands, i would like to ask them, what the hell are they talking about,bro don't u know the religion of islam, i assume u muslim, says that. and as lefty said the ratio of women is greater than men. so this is a mercy of allah that men marries more than one woman. to help the other women. the ratio is 3:1. 3 women to one man. so think ppl. allah knows us. so pls let allah does his things ok. u guys just be good slaves for him, no questions asked. the western ppl decide to make rule, like they know better than allah, so they said only one man for one woman. now tell me how many man got arrested sleeping around with another woman, CLINTON CASE. look the ratio of lazbians in america and in most of the western countries. now compare that to muslim countries. in conclusion. allah created us. he knows us. some of his rules, we might not understand it. coz of our ignorance of the religion of islam, but we should fellow. pls my ppl. no matter what just know islam is perfect, no matter how much they make it look bad on tv. and it always back fires on them. all this adultary, lezbiansims, ppl with animals, all started. coz ppl thought they could make better rules, than allah.

fallow our calture religously, nin yaaban that is wrong. as i said b4 in another forums of urs, the calture is not perfect. and if our calture comes against our religion we are not fallowing it. coz islam takes the good things of the calture and throws away the bad things of the calture. p.s. nin yaaban my advice to u. is seperate the calture from our religion. pls man.

why do i feel like the refree, it seems most of my posts, i am trying to end some misunderstanding, or an arguement. gender war in this case. NIN YAABAN, NIN WAALAN BAATAHAY. lol. listen man, see u look like pride guy, and i think i know what u saying but u have to understand u have to go easy on our girls in here in western countries man, don't blame them, imagine watching tv of a western countries for almost 8hrs everyday, or studying in universities in these countries, u have to give them excuses and teach them easily. NIN YAABAN when u say they should obay their man, wrong and right, that is wrong. they should obay the man only when he is right, in islam the woman should obay their man, only when he is following islamic way, if he is not, if he wants to eat qaad for example, she doesn't have to obay that. u r mixing calture into our religion man, come on. i know our calture is better than the western calture, but still our calture is not perfect. that is why some of the girls say screw the calture. woman should obay the man, only when he is right, and if the woman is right the man should obay too. why not. wallaahi i am afraid for my beloved somali ppl. our woman think, they have to faight with this injustice that man do them, but in doing so they go to social workers who are christians, so they tell them something that is not good for them, and that is the problems we are having now adays. and for man, pls seperate the ****** calture from our religion. our sister need their rights too. p.s. if both men and women, fallow the real Islam, we wouldn't be having all this problems man being old fashion, woman being librated. lol

pls ppl, seperate the bad calture we have from the perfect religion we proclaimed to be Islam. beating in Islam, and the beating Muslim men do is very different. Allah would ask the man what the reason he beat her for, he must have a good reason. and even if he does he is never allowed to break her bones. what kind of man are you when u r beating your wife, the woman that decided to spend her life with u, and u beat her. as nafta said, the only beating in islam, is not even a beating, but for the lack of better word ppl use this word, u just have show in a way that u r not pleased with what ur wife is doing her. but not to break her bones, and her jaw ok. also it has been said, in a scientific research the only men who beat their wives are those men who were used to be beaten up at young age. who got abused, or feel insecure. nimanka fulayada ah, oo aan iska celin karin nimanka kale, ayaa naagahooda iska dhiga in ay dhiman khatar ah, oo dila haweenkooda. p.s. every great man, his wife is the boss of his house, look all the man we respect, and tell me how their wives was. have u ever heard every great man, there is a woman behind him.

i'll make it short for u, QUEEN EYES. since both are your friends, don't get involved what so ever, tell her, i know we are good friends and everything but this is your business. don't get me involved, u know girls after she might even start think u r the reason why the brother don't like her. so my advice would be don't get involved. u said something amazing, ur friend won't even stop if she realizes he has a girl already which he likes. she will ruined that relationship, that is pure mean. tell your friend for get about this ****** attraction and don't ruin for the other girl he is with now. coz most likely shw wouldn't like some one doing that to her. so why. that is mean. don't halp her at all. untill she changes that kind of mentality. and tell her to be patient and better man might come to her. i am just not feeling, she is even willing to break them a part, so she could have him, that is mean.

nafta has a pt, but honestly i don't even believe this, at the beginning there is no love, it is attraction don't get it mixed up ppl. when the two ppl just saw each other, starting to go out, find out they lots in common, that is called attraction. love will come into play, when u 2 marry. that is why it is called MAKING LOVE. so at first b4 marriage is attraction. and the first night of u and him/her will find out if u love each other

I don't get it, why always fight, and argue, is this the new thing going on these days, let the person say his opinion. sisters pls understand first what Qosleeye is saying b4 u attack him from every position. don't be so emotional pls sisters. and as for guys, why u guys care when a sister says she thinks the non-somalies guys are better then the somali men, DON'T U KNOW SISTERS SAY THIS KIND OF STUFF, SO THEY COULD GET U GUYS. also if they mean it, and they want to marry a black muslim american, or jamaican is ok. I JUST THINK IT IS HYPOCRATICAL WHEN WE WERE IN SOMALIA WE DIDN'T USED TO MARRY THEM, WE USED TO SAY THEY ARE JAREER UF SAN WEEN. and now in america we marry them why, is it becouse Jordan is one of them, TYRESE, Iverson. what is going on, anyways i think not only black americans and jamaicans should be married, but also those poor ones in Africa too should married, or else u being hypocrite let's face it. guys pls if the sister wants to get her husband from another nation let her. don't u know the ratio is 3:1. 3 women for one men. that is why men in islam are allowed to marry 4 of them, coz allah knows this. if every man marries one. who is gonna marry the other two. do u want them to become lezbians. i hope our ppl, could think straight from now on. if something is in the religous and it bothers u, pls don't say it is unfair, it could be because u have no knowledge what so ever. allah is creator, and he knows what is going on. at one day the ratio will be 50:1, 50 women to one man, so pls guys if u play the numbers don't EVEN SWET. u guys would always have sisters waiting for u. the one who goes somewhere else, not only u should be happy for her, u supposed take her to the other guy. who cares is her loss. p.s. i didn't mean it to make it long. is just i was fed up with the all this arguement going back and forth the whole time

stop being romantic man, be urself. if not romantic by nature, why try harder to impress girls, just be urself. coz being romantic just wastes ur time

man do i see most of the girls want big wedding here. so do u ever wonder every man is not rich. unless ofcourse u all are gold diggers, and i know u will all say that u guys are not gold diggers, but how u gonna explain diss. i agree with Asraa, and Rahima. especially with Rahima, when u say i want a western wedding, u automatically see ur caltural weddings inferior to the western calture, u might not admitted but that is what u saying. mizz unique pls sis. if i was ur man, i wouldn't even marry u, coz i am somali, and u want me to be a westerner. act like them, wear suit i understand, but the rest is carbage sis. sorry to offend u. but i have to tell the trueth some other girls said, i have to wear the white. what is that all about, to wear white, does the prophet said that. why is a must for u to wear it. as silent sis, said,it is better u use small wedding save all taht money, and go maybe honey moom, pay off ur loans do alot of beneficial stuff. and in recent statis it is proven that ppl with big wedding end up devorcing. and as for the going down on man, that is different story i don't even know how it gets here. but once again i agree with Rahiima u can't say is haram, nor halal. it is one of the gray areas in islam. p.s. pls don't be brain washed sisters/brothers

Guys maybe looking, staring coz u guys wear now adays un islamic cloth, tight jeans, could see the belly, and small t-shirt, that a even a kid can't wear it. maybe that is the reason why guys stare at u guys, try to wear perfect hijab and tell me if they stare at u guys. secondly for guys, u have to lower ur gays, even if the woman dresses provaktive way, still u have to look down. that is the islamic way, also the woman has to look down if the guy is too attractive to them. ppl fellow islam, it will answer alot of things for u guys. p.s. girls still u might start giving the guys excuses, it doesn't meant always he is looking coz he wants to see ur booty, it could be that he is flight 13er, first time he is seeing a booty maybe, it also could be that he might think he knows u. or it could be taht he is reer baadiye

thanks sis insha'allah will be better aware of allah, next time. thanks for teh beautiful article.

Barwaaqo nice, now u talking. lovely post. keep doing the good work.

Scorpion sister, there is no pt of me and u replying back and forth to each other everytime, if u still hold that opinion then good. i respect ur opinion, is just i don't agree it with u. that's all. ok. and for u silent sister, u too emotional, i don't know what i said. to make u that mad. anyways if i said something wrong i am sorry. but pls don't call names to guys, u know generalizing is wrong, even the kids know that. IF U SAY MEN ARE DOGS, UNTRUSTY, LIERS. AND U AS WOMEN FALL FOR THEM EVERY TIME, WHAT DO THAT MAKES U, LOWER THAN DOGS. so see sis pls watch out what u saying, ok, both genders need each other. when i start this whole topic, it was just an advice from me that's all. i didn't say girls back home are cleaner, i said, girls back home are atleast not affected by the western. the thinking. mentality get it. i am not saying they all pure, but atleast i know, they not affected by hollywood, in their decision making.

i doubted, i also agree with woman saving our country not only in Somalia but also in Europe and in North America both canada and u.s. but i doubted, i think these westerners have another agenda. maybe they wanna start gender war like them, maybe be they want our woman and man come into confrontial 50 50 like in the west, no thanks we don't want our devorce rate gets higher percentage. what we gonna do with alot of kids who don't know their fathers hey we muslims. ok. anyways i doubted, and i doubt these somali ppl who are opening operation like that in our sweet home, i wonder what is their intension is. maybe they only in there coz they speak english. and lived in u.s. or western countries for a number of yrs. in conclusion WE DON'T WANT MORE SELL OUT IN OUR COUNTRY we already have enough, and can't wait untill they die. we somali ppl in our country who doesn't think for their stomachs. but rather think about the whole country. not to destroy one whole somali tribe. so u could be recognized as a governer of so and so place no more sell outs

learn self defence, don't be girl girl, do boxing, or martial arts, what ever u like.

hey girls finesista, miss scorpion pls don't diss each other, in public, in a forum like this, coz everyone could see. i didn't mean to start a fight. scorpion sista, i hope u understand what i am saying, on the previous post. pls don't be driven out of emotion. we could have different opinions is ok. is part of the life, but if we put one anothers opinion, then we have a problem. so pls next time sis, with all do respect see what i am saying, wonder on it. when i said pure girl. i didn't mean they equal to good kids, come on, sis. we not kids here, i hope once again u could understand what i mean. if the girl had a good manners all her life, she will teach her kids, the good manners she knows, rather than the party girl, coz that girl would teach her kids to party too, coz that is all they see from their mom, so again pls scorpion sista understand me, don't be driven out of emotions. as for u finesista. if u agree with me, then nice, cool. also i don't think most of the girls are like that i know, they are not. i am just saying for those girls who are not.

woow is this only for the girls. girl girl talk, most of u say are heart broken. and talked about your expriences that was i guess very helpfull to uplift each other but anyways i just wanna show u guys, or approach this topic from another angle. correct me if i am wrong girls. r we talking about dates the whole time yes or no, i think we are talking about ppl dating each other, ok. if that is the case did we ask each other how allah feels about dating no, we just went with out considering if this act is ok in islam or not. so we went on, and we expect to be not heartbroken come on sis. allah can't give u, food, shelter, peace, health. everything. and we still are breaking his rules, and on top of that u want not to be heart broken. that doesn't make sense to me. well now if i talk from the guys point of view, guys thing this way, if the girl is going out with u, dating u, she definately not a marriage material, we say she got brainwashed in western countries, and all the movies, u know the romantic stuff. and at the end when the guy had his fun with u, spent lots of time with u, and u were not even married to the guy. then he would say yo she is too easy, another man could get her how exactly i got her. so then he looks for another alternatives, that could be going to somalia and finding a girl, clean one, who doesn't know about dates. at the end any man wants to marry a nice woman, pure one, then he could trust her with his kids. but if the girl goes out with guys, and give them hugs,kisses, spent time with him, go to movies with him, he would say she is too easy, she is like a worm up for me, and ama go to somalia and find a respectful one, who has her tradition. so pls girls next time think about this, and fellow the rules of Allah ok. then u won't be heartbroken. go to ur local mosques and find guys who are religous who know if they break a woman's heart they will accounted for it, in the eyes of allah. at the end is all about your choice, if u make the wrong one, don't be crying all over it after.

Buulo couldn't agree with u more, ppl got brain washed by movies, and love songs. R & B's come on ppl this is redicoulus it is not about freedom of speach, crap. don't bring that in here. Do ppl talk about discusting things, the answer is no then, why not how come we can't talk about it. where is the freedom of speach in here. i think, our sister sould stop watching movies like soup operas damn, she fell in love with this guy, but he loves this girl who is sick. oh come on. relationships boring. as a muslims we shouldn't be watching movies like that, coz they incourage to have sex with someone coz u loved him. and that is no no in Islam. so all the ppl. who had it, with relationship crap. i agree with u guys, latiif, ameenah, buulo. nice. besides how come there is no education forum here. or is it too boring. how come there is no forum for ppl who want to build their country. how come there is no forum for students. university students. who will hellp our country in the future. nooo we only wanna care about relationships. i think boring stuff, are the right things, and are more beneficial, they deserve to have their own forums. even though only 3 or 4 ppl will be in there. coz hollywood would win at the end in this world. but who would win in the next world. that is the big question

first of all r u married to her. if not, if this is a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. then u get no answer coz. this is not allowed in Islam on the other hand, if she is ur wive. u should tell her. and not embarrasse her like this. asking question on nomad ppl here. it is between u and ur girl. and if u can't communicate with each other then. u need to practice that. one of the woman rights on man, if they married is to keep her secrets. and not to make it public to anybody, like the kuffars do. YOU KNOW WHAT MY WIVE DID LAST NIGNT, WE NOT LIKE THEM.

be careful of the opposite sex. in your case man, don't let ur emotions for some one to take u down the road. ok. that's all i am gonna since my fellaz stated the rest. good friends are important no gossib no dating pray,fast,hajj,zakah no lies

mizz lexus. i don't know what is going on between u, and this GM guy, but anyways. how can he make that dicision for u. but at the end i know u the decision would be urs, so good luck girl

Thanks for the knowledge u gave us, Khayr. may allah reward u for it. keep doing what u doing bro.

marry who u want sis. what matters is that u keep ur salat, and ur faith in tact. eat halal and duah's woul be accepted, no sinning, no more haram, and no back biting. stay away from dating. and u should be happy here after.