somalean, r u really saying, that naked women in front of men, would not do anything to the men. r u kidding me? u took an example from those small tribes in south america or some parts in africa, well sis they are ignorent ppl, that is why they naked, and i don't really see how this example applies to our topic here. it is 100% men's fautl yes, but we can't deny the fact that the women had something to do with provoking it. u know it too. u said, the attacker would rape a hijabi muslim sister yeah maybe, but we are talking about an everage, not the rare cases ok. when a man sees a hihabed woman they usually leave them alone, most of the time, coz the hijab has powers and allah protects his believing women, but go ahead and wear see through clothes, and like to get attention from men, when he approaches you, and you say no, coz he is not your type, he would think other reasons to get you, and rape could be one. anyways when i start this, i didn't want to start an argument, all i wanted to do is, to tell you guys how the hijab is very important, some of u, i guess missunderstood me, and just talked out of nothing. why u sisters so defensive now adays,? no one could say his opinion around here, when it comes to women huh? figt for ur rights huh, well sisters we are not abusing u guys, so pls cut this, and for once with open heart let's exchange reasons and opinions ok.

Bee honestly i think, u just blah blahing 4 real. i don't wanna repeat myself the whole day, when did u ever see an somalie men putting a victim of woman down, do u think we would let a jerk rape our sisters come on sis, that is why i asked u guys to talk out of facts ok. i atleast like what lucky did she had fact from the u.s. defence pls do that. i even think, rapers should be killed, is the worst crime that a person could do to another human being, but u acting like it affects you more than us, i simply think, is wrong. lucky what u saying (the rape) happened during the start of the civel war, between the 2 big tribes of somalia. but guess what always in war time rape happens sisster, how many women are rapted after the taliban do u know, how many women are getting raped in iraq do u know, how many women did the serbians raped in kosovo and in bosnia, in war time ppl or men rape the other ppl's women to show that they are defeated. that is one of the things islam stops, but i guess since they are kaffirs they do it to us. that is anyways another stoy. but show me a normal somali men in no war time, who goes and rapes a somali girl, in a peace time, then compare that small number to america or canada or anywhere in the west.

once again i see the girls are talking out of emotions, anyways me and opinionated exchanged couple of unpleasent remarks, and i am not intend to go to another one with her, coz as i said to her, before i really think she sees the world black and white, in this case men and women. now for u british lady Bee, u r right, and remember what i said on top, is that still it is the man's fault, but i said who provoked it ok. don't quote my things out of proportion ok. if u r saying men are animal, and women always fall for them, then women should be less than man. so no name calling for a whole sex, ok. we are here to exchange our opinions, opinionated u said, women are raped mainly their family members well, where are those stats coming from, we don't one , one rare case that happened we are talking about majority, so pls enlighten us with some facts ok. now if i go back to my topic, women wear hijab coz they are beautiful creatures to men, and allah knew this, that is why islam always separates women and men, coz islam prevents things before it happen, but in west, they know better atleast that is what they think, and guess what they are suffering the most. in muslim countries it is very rare that somebody rapes a woman, it only happens civel war times, but in here western countries they do it coz they enjoy it.

i know u could make duah for everything, but i don't know special one for this issue, but allah should make easy for you, there are sheikhs in here, who i think, they are more qualified to answer your question, i am not qualified at all, brother Nur, go ahead and take over.

Bro i'll see what i could do, hey i think, the somalies who are coming to there will be so few anyways, so we don't need to wear our somaliaonline names, coz i think, we'll be getting to know each other anyways. the only problem is, i don't think, we could get to know to the sisters coz, this will look really bad, that a conference with all those sheikhs that u pick a girl from lool. is only my opinion don't get mad ppl. anyways if u hear the name qaac qaac is me ok. from ott.

I just wanna play, a devil's advocat here and say, let's say it is 10pm at night, there is a homeless guy who always sleeps in the park late at night, and there is this woman who is running around to be fit, with short stuff, and tight shirt, and the man let her go the first 2 nights, but the third night he couldn't take it, he wanted to get that woman, and he raped her, i know it is the man who did the act, BUT R U SAYING THAT WOMAN DIDN'T PROVOKED IT, u can't walk around half naked infornt of men, all the time and tease them like this, and expect that no one will touch you, that is why woman wear hijab, hello. men are weak, that is the reason why woman wear hijab, see men doesn't wear hijab coz the women would not rape every guy they see, they are more controlled, take any psychology class they will teach u this. allah knew this long time coz he created us, that is why he makes those kind of rules ok. allah The Just.

maxaawaaaye marax nimadaan meeshaan hadda afkii aaba la isku mic neen bisinka iyo kitaabka jaamica ah. caremel adna saad udifaacday macalinka underdog aan ka helay, 100% dumar iga dheh.

Waraa Rudy Haduu af soomaaliga jiq kugu yahay iska sheego nooh,waalagu caawine,laakiin gabadha saas ha u dardarin. Macbuudka, af isgoosha sadan waa maxay.

sub xanallah I only see the sisters taking part of this, and they really into it. well i guess i'll be the first bro, insha'allah i would be there, this one is way better than isna. did u say, siraj wahaj, hamza yusuf, zaid shakir, jamal al-badawi. it is like an all-star. i'll be there, see u guys there.

if the mother is educated in islamic way. depending of what u mean education. underdog buddy, u said, what u had to say to them, but they wanna play defence, let them, it is them and their husbands. women and men should listen to each other. lots of muslim men abuse women back homes, that is true no one is arguing that. but to say i would be strong and take on a miskiin guy in north america whose could only think about how he is gonna pay that loan. is unfair. Girls u guys have to separate the Jerk men, from the real men ok.

we as muslims should practice saying I DON'T KNOW, to the questions, if u don't know them, it is not ceeb or embarassing to say i don't know. especially the somalies are too pride to say something i don't know to. Imam Malik, got asked almost 40questions or more, i don't remember the real number of questions, but he said i don't know to 38 of them, and he is a scholar, one of the madhabs we fallow. imagine any joe blow, here answering a question, coz he thinks it is like this, using logic and what they learned from school, and exprience.

first of all to start off, as a muslims we don't celebrate new years, we only celebrate the two eids, we just had one al-xamdulilah, and the 2nd one around the corner. to come back to your other pt, the girls who take off their hijab for parties, whose their excuse is it is because it is aroos, well they doing it because of calture, islam, is a way of life, and whould be fellowed by it is teachings day and night, ramadan or no ramadan, new year or no new year, every time. no bending the laws like most of our ppl do.

subxan allah, we always talk about the same thing in here, anyways. 68% of our muslim ppl devorce each other now, because of something like this. and our generation it will be more maybe 80%, that is the america dream, to have punch of broken houses, so the ppl are busy with their problems, in conclusion, guys pls don't be so jerks to our sisters, coz they need us, and we need them, and girls pls what u call intelligency guys see it as confrontal. man be a man, and woman be areal woman. if our woman think in a bad ways, then as a nation of somalia we are really done, coz sisters is what is important. no more being jerks, and no more confrontal and proving pts, we respect you guys sisters, we know u could do it all, but we want u guys to be our woman, not our brothers or our typical guy friend.

i think, all the nomads in here that are not married, in here, should all get married to each other one by one. start matching up ppl in here. everytime we are talking about romance, back and back, again and again. my lord. Feebaro badan, iyo xafaaroow badan baa haya dadka inta jooga ayaan umaleen. ee let the games begin. who is the first couple who wants to start. ppl i know u all want so start. 1. coupls, man and a girl from sol, 1st two who are they.

bro first of all say istaghfurullah, and i am not here to mislead someone or anyone, it is you who is bringing shiat ideologies in here, so what is your intension r u misleading ppl? still again i repeat my question 4 the third time, answer the question, would u let some one to have mutah with your sister. it looks like u don't want to answer this question, coz u don't want anyone to have mutah with your sister, therefore pls bro don't be hypocrite, coz if u don't want it to be done to your sister, why do u want it to be done to some other muslim sisters, don't they have brothers too. also u always saying before khaybar mutah was allowed, what about after, Buulo gave lots of hadiths were mutah is halal, u said, i read books were mutah is halal, well those books are shiat books my man. still u didn't answer al-nusairiyah for me bro, why. u said, shiat don't do shirk. boy were u wrong. don't quote hadiths, and stories of the sahaba out of context, don't confuse our nomad ppl in here, we don't really care about shiat ideologies. we know what they are, and what they believe, u could polished nicely how u want, but the fact remains that shiat are very secretive ppl, and when they get the upper hand on the sunnies, good luck for sunnis. bro if u want me, to get books, that shiat ppl wrote, who converted to sunni, i would bring it to you. don't make me, to show all their ideologies to the nomad ppl, here, before it gets worth bro, just stop it here, and pls stop giving us dacwah about shiat. the hadith about the maaso thing u said, is about food, and has nothing to do with mutah, how did u make that connection. say istaghfurulah, and don't add mutah into our religion. even the christians would now accept that idea. and would tell you any religion that believes that, is not a real religion.

if u see the sahaba's way and the prophet's sunnah was romantic. then yes sis. will try to work on it. and immitate the salaf and the prophet scw. i personally thought, u ment romantic way, in the western style. but know i now. p.s. we'll try to fellow every pharse in the quran. and the sunnah of the prophet which explains the quran.

Bro i am not saying u shiat, But this is what every shiat person does, when he feels like he got corned, he or she comes back from the brotherhood side, saying we all muslims, we all believe the same God. bro i am not at all judging you, but the way u talk, is like u saying i am shiat, but u said, i am not, so ama leave it with that, because allah judges what is inside we humans could only judge what u saying to us. also bro, Omar bin khattab, doesn't have an authority to make things Haram, he is just a human ok. allah makes his things haram or halal, there fore with said, Muatah is haram, why, because of the many hadiths that sister Buulo narrated to you, HEY IF U NOT GONNA ALLOW MUTAH, TO BE DONE TO YOUR OWN BLOOD SISTER, THEN WHY DO U WANT IT TO BE DONE TO ANY OTHER MUSLIM WOMAN, bro pls next don't say mutah, explain to the girls in here what mutah is. tell them, i dare u, if u could say it, coz i know our somali sister in here will be so much offended, they will be angry with u. 4 all the sister who are in here who might not know what mutah is, it is a contract thing, that only shiat ppl do, not us muslims, u could have a contract with some woman, 4 what ever u like, u could keep her 4 a week, or days, or years, what ever u may like, is the girl *** bro, what is this. WOULD U PPL IN HERE THING, THAT ALLAH ALL MIGHTY, THE JUST ALLAH, WOULD PERMIT MAN TO DO THIS TO THE WOMEN. the answer to this is no, it is what man made, so they could fellow their desire to have any girl they want on the side with their wifes, i could see this why man could like. but never the less we have to fellow our religion the right way. and bro no matter what u say mutah would always be haram, so pls go to your local masjid, not the shiat one, and make istighfara. also 9 sticks thing, it has been said, by a scholar, who are you to tell and say we should use all the sticks to the non-muslims. do u think u know more than him, about islam and brotherhood. hey bro we dont only study from one angle of our Islam, we also studied shiat from every prespective. tell us bro if u r here to give us dacwah so we could become shait. ok p.s. u didn't answer my question yet, i asked on the previous post, that if uliked a man to have mutah with your sister, p.p.s. u also said, shiat don't do shirk. i told u about AL-NUSAIRIYAH, one of the sects of the shait in Syria, they think ali is God himself, istaghfurulah. wazz up, pls answer those 2 questions for me.

imam shafici said, if u curse Omar bin khattab, and abu bakr, u r out of islam, and hell yeah i agree with him there is no way u'll be entering jannah, dissing abu bakr and omar, sorry. mutah is haram, if u think it is halal, can i do it with ur sister, don't be so offended, it is just extreme example to prove a pt, if u say no u can't do it with my sister, then u r a hypocrite, coz u don't want any one to do it to ur sister, but u want other sisters to be done this to them. what kind of believe is that

Sayfullah al-masluul, i saw your other postings and most of the time u r defending shiats, bro pls i know, and studied what shiat are ok. pls iknow your Tuqya, to lie a sunni person is an ajar for the shiat person, this will take a long discussion and i don't want to go into it. but u know there are some somalies in here that don't know anything about the religion, psl bro don't confused them with your beautifully done theories of shaits ok. yes they commit shirk, ans sister rahima said, epecailly the kaba'ir one, AL-NUSAIRIYAH, the sect that the syrian government fellow believe Ali radiyallahu anhu. is a God, just like Jesus as the christians do. so don't come here and tell me they don't do shirk. yes they are good shiats like the Zaydies in yemen, who pray like us, but in history we know, shiats used to open the door for both Crusades to take over Jureslam, and Mangols to take over Baghdad. so bro don't tell us the good pts of the shiats, they also killed scholars the bigest one was, Ibn Qayim, who said the fatimid empire in egypt if he had 10 sticks, he would use 9 sticks against the shiat, and 1 against the crusades, coz they are more dangerous, why, because they are in your household. also they get out the imam abu hanifah, from his grave, when they had the control of iraq, and humiliated his body, by burying 2 black dogs with him. anyways bro i don't want to confuse any somali nomad person, who don't know anything about this stuff, but the ppl who know what shait stands for, don't tell them they are good, and like us, no way in hell. willl be tak that. are we clear. now don't put some fitnah into our ppl, alxamdulilah somalies are 100 sunnies, and we don't want any shaits, i know the iranian plan is to spread shaits in sunni dominant countries, but good luck doing this in somalia. if u want more debate just say so, but don't confuse anymore person here, as u already did. ppl who are in here more knowledagable then me told u already everythng u wanted to hear, but i am blunt with u, and i am not gonna sugar goat, firt tell me, if u r not shiat, why u r so defensive of them bro. if u are is understandalbe we could debate. but no shia' dacwah in here pls bro hana waalin ee naga daa shiicada waxooda

Idil sister, the hadith u mentioned was, when the prophet's son died, the sun turned dark, and the ppl thought this was because of the prophet's son dying, and the prophet scw told the ppl the sun and the moon don't become dark because of someone died, something to that fact... the hadith u just mentioned. khayr bro, yes there is a hadith in bukhari, that says the sun and the moon would eclipse, in one ramadan, and this will be the sign of the Mahdi coming out. also this never happen before in the history of the world the prophet added, both to be eclipsed at the same ramadan. modesty i agree with u, i too think, the mahdi is alive now, coz remember only when he become 40 he would realize that he is the Guided one. and yes u r right, after Iraq is attacked they would go to Syria, they already started with them, and then to Egypt. don't tell me Egypt is an ally now, Iraq was 15yrs ago. so what. so ppl the last day, is almost coming up soon, get ready, worship your God more, don't be sorrow later, don't just eat, sleep and live ok. be aware of the things that is going on around u.

horta i agree with all the nomads here who said, the attacks that happens to all the muslims in anyland, is the same, it is not fair that we only mention the one in makkah. khair, and muraad, can't agree with u guys anymore than this. this attacks in saudia nor what happened after 911, muslims were not behind it. if u don't agree with me, pls ppl make research then come up with your opinion, cnn and bbc are not the saxiixayn, is not rawaahu bukhari or muslim ok. also sister Rahima i agreed with u when u said, the attacks were not from muslims. but i didn't agree with u, when u said, the overthrown of that pathetic kingdom, is far greater harm. no way. i believe we should over throw the damn thing, and start giving all those money to the poor ppl

nice story sis, thank u

ameenah i read all your writings and what u post, and it didnot make sense to me. but anyways i would give your the better of the doubt, and say i know u mean it in a good way, as for the argument between us, i will end it here. coz is no pt of me and u keep going back and forth, and proving each other wrong. we shouldn't argue to win loose situation, we should argue win win situation ok, so we could learn from each other. anyways as right now u won. mash'allah feel how u wanna feel, have one husband, don't share him if u want, is up to you, no more arguing. peace

lucky sis u r right. the man should first take care of his 1st wife yes, i agree then if he still wants another one he should go for it. but that was the arguement bout. anyways atleast now we have come into middle ground, which is, man should have good reason to go for 2nd. and u sisters should never say, my husband would never marry another wife. cool.

ameenah abaydiis waxaan umaleen, in aad xooga kululaaday. ee pls biyo qaboow cab, ramadaan na waalagu jiraaye ee dar alle u dag. pls don't talk out of emotions. pls don't say what i see around me that is not a fact. pls present your case with facts and quotes ok. bee or barwaaqo, abaayo maxaa maanta dhan iskaga daba wareegaysaa, maxaa jira iska admit garee in a xooga ubadantahay dhinaca westiga. idinko umaleenaya in ay tahay ilbax nimo. sisters i ased u guys this question 3times, and u r not answering, true believer is the one who believes islam even when it is against him/her. i know in reality every women don't like to share. but imagine if your sister was the one with out the man, coz we know now, that women are more then men. no doubt, so u all telling me, every women should get one men, that is impossible coz the # of men is too small compare to women. so what shall we do the left women who are not married. r u sisters saying, they should practice lezbionism, coz they still have that drive to need men. but every men is taken, now what is the solution. girls we reasoned with u guys, a lot of times, but if u don't see this pt, then i must you, u must be blind. or may allah then give hadaya