Originally posted by Captain Xalane: The uniform the Colonel is wearing is the standard six colored desert BDU.Its not ethiopian.The somali army used to have the woodland ,the desert six colored pattern(issued in the the 80's) and the telemimetico pattern,which is italian (our commandos officers used them),and we also had the olive pattern that tankers used mainly.Ur uniform arguement is embarassing. You're completely wrong; the uniform is Ethiopian. To rubber stamp my assertion, I present two very recent pictures of two well known personalities in the invasion of Somalia: Hiraale in Kismaayo. The Ethiopian general who "liberated" Kismaayo. Compare the two uniforms.

Originally posted by General Duke: Why doesn't the gudoomiye grow beards? Isn't growing beards sunnah? And whatever happened to Hiraale? Last time he had Islamic looking beards, but now seems different.

Originally posted by bambo: Adis- ababa: Males Zenawe "Ciidamadeena waxay sii joogayaan gudaha dalka Soomaaliya mudo labo usbuuc ilaa sadax usbuuc. COME DOWN PEOPLE TIGREY ARE LEAVING SXB LET TFG GET CHANCE The Ethiopian occupiers will not leave in 2-3 weeks time. Geedi said they will stay in Somalia for months (translation: years). Ethiopians to stay on in Somalia The prime minister of Somalia's fragile interim government, Ali Mohamed Ghedi, says that heavily-armed soldiers from Ethiopia would be needed for months. More: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6224163.stm

Originally posted by bambo: The reasone why the icu has fallend is greedyness for power , some of icu members where seriouse about bringing peace and stability to somalia their achievment was hijacked by Indhacde and Dahir aweys . First, the ICU wasn't defeated; what it has suffered is a setback. This has nothing to do with greedyness for power. It suffered a setback because the West and Ethiopia hate Islam and for being Muslims.

Originally posted by Sheikh Fiqqikhayre: What's next Col. Cabdirazaaq Afgaduud is Ethiopian aswell! Yeah look closer folks, there might be something in the claim! By virtue of wearing an Ethiopian uniform, and since he's fighting for Ethiopia, Afgaduud is Ethiopian. Originally posted by Jacaylbaro: i know we can do a lot with the PHOTOSHOP ,,,,,, The pictures were taken by Westerners and posted on Yahoo News!

Originally posted by General Duke: Taliban, the man sitting next to Geedi is MP Ciro from Galkacyu and he is no Ethiopian.. He is the tall dude in the Middle next to the Police chief Nice comeback. This shows you work for the TFG or even are a member of the TFG, since you seem to know a lot about the ins and outs of the TFG. If not for his height, Cabdirashid Ciro could only have been Ethiopian. Even with his height, he looks more Ethiopian, not typical Somali. So, how do you explain Somalis (including children) have been forced to show their allegiance for Zenawi instead of Abdullahi Yusuf?

Originally posted by Caamir: If it makes any difference to you but it appears your likes can't rationalize issues of immense importance. Instead, you poised to discomfit your readers with trivial things which renders your thoughts jumbled and tangled enough to form noncommital grunt or impatient silence. What's there to rationalize? Is invading and occupying Somalia rational? Is showing your allegiance or forcing children to show their allegiance to to a foreign leader (Zenawi) trivial things? Why can't it be Geedi and Yusuf instead of Geedi and Zenawi?

Originally posted by Caamir: Indeed this blanket accusation that Ethiopia has enough of a push to annex Somalia exacerbates the president and his prime minister's effort in bringing peace and prosperity, integrate all Somalia territories through peaceful means from Hargeisa to Mogadisho to Bosaaso to Kismayo. Which president are you talking about? Abdullahi Yusuf? You couldn't be more than wrong. Abdullahi Yusuf isn't Somalia's president. These two pictures show Somalia's president and prime minister:

Tanks of the invaders. The Ethiopian helicopter that transported Geedi. To show your loyalty, you have to carry that picture of Geedi and Meles. Even kids have been forced to show their loyalty. The Somali flag desecrated by the flag of Somalia's nemesis.

The man sitting next to Geedi is Ethiopian. Ethiopian occupiers.

Originally posted by LANDER: meanwhile here in canada ppl who've been living here for decades are still living the same way as when they first arrived. There are less jobs in Canada and only those with "Canadian experience" and through clouts might get it.

Insha'Allah, when the time comes to return the favor (invasion, occupation) to Ethiopia, we will install an Ethiopian leader like Lij Iyasu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyasu_V_of_Ethiopia

Originally posted by KEYNAN22: I'm sorry but if anything we should thank the Ethiopians (regardless of their interess of getting aid from U.S) that they helped the TFG to kick out these disgusting 7th century Saudi wahabists who only filled the vacuum of law in Moqdishu but at the same time tried to rip the average somali their greatest possesion ever which was freedom. Pardon me, but are you Muslim? I am asking the question, because you're ridiculing ("disgusting") the 7th century, the people who lived in that era, today's people who imitate those people of the 7th century. Among the people who lived in the 7th century; the prophet (pbuh), the sahaba, great Muslim leaders and warriors, and the finest Muslims to exist ever. Your linking of "Saudi wahabists" to the 7th century is illogical. There were no "wahabists" in the 7th century. Please make some sense. Thank you.

Originally posted by Mujaahid: Red Sea: It's his enemy that killed him,one day they will praise you,support you,the next day,they will hang you. Indeed. Saddam's fate is what awaits those (the TFG, secular Muslim leaders, iwm) who collaborate with his enemy.

Originally posted by Castro: A "sunni Muslima" who associates partners with Allah has invalidated her Muslimhood and Sunnihood. So your question is moot. You didn't get the question nor have answered it. The question isn't about invalidation.

Originally posted by Ahmed_Guree: I heard every former warlord was given back his Isbaro. Naturally. Warlordism is very addictive, not much different than narcotics.

Originally posted by Pi: You probably think the thousands who greeted Geedi are also from his sub-clan. Perhaps even his sub-sub clan? Those thousands who greeted Geedi are possibly not from his sub-clan or sub-sub clan. They are probably those who show support for any winning horse.

Originally posted by AAliyah416: since you can marry a christian obviously you can marry a shia What about the question everyone is afraid to answer? Are you brave enough to answer it? If so, here again is the question: Can a (Sunni) Muslim marry a (Sunni) Muslima who associates partners with Allah?

Originally posted by Sheikh Fiqqikhayre: This picture isn't Afgooye; it's Mogadishu. This is the arc near km 4. The inscription "Arco di trionfo popolare" is still visible.

Originally posted by Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar: Amxaara tabar la'aa awalba, oo fuleynimo lagu ogaa wax ee tarayaan maleh hadaan iskaashano. Iskaashi kaliya ayaa loo baahanyahay, waa taas Xisbullaah iska dhicisay Yahuuda oo ifka maanta dowlada sadexaad ama afaraad lagu sheego ugu awood badan [Eebbaa awood lahee]. Xabash waala kicinaa. Kaariyaasha iyo inatareeyada ciidamada u saaran duqooway ay wataan ayaaba igu daran, hadee umaleyaan kuwaas inay wax ku tarayaan, waala arkaa. Kuwa maanta hoggaamiye ku sheega ah oo Xabash u dabanaageynaayo meeshee galaan hala arko that day when it arrives. I hope inay u cararin Addis Ababa. We don't care what Bush and his neocons are. Amxaar xaarkiis ka carari jiray baa u jeednaa, hadee moodan inay wax u tarayaan, they will hugely be disapointed, as they were disappointed both in Ciraaq and Lubnaan. Does Islam teach ridiculing or making fun of your enemy's tabar la'aanimo, fuleynimo, wax matarenimo, injirleeynimo or shortcomings? :confused:

Originally posted by Somali_Friend: If you decide to fight, you will be fighting your own brother not an ethiopian. You are in error. If we decide to fight, we will be fighting Ethiopian invaders and occupiers. Since Ethiopia crossed Somalia's border, violating Somalia's airspace, bombing and massacring thousands of innocent Somalis, we have no choice but to return the favor. It could take many years, but it will be eventually realized, insha'Allah. And you don't understand Islam and Muslims; to sacrifice your wealth and life for jihad is the noblest cause in Islam. Somali_Friend, most often, you veer from the unity of the topic or discussion. You add to the topic or discussion with things that have no relation. Most often, you argue for the sake of argument. Until I observe from you professionalism in how you argue or discuss, I am forced to stop responding to your comments.

Originally posted by Somali_Friend: You missed the point. Taliban are supported by Pakistan. They still are either tolerated or Pakistan turns a blind eye. Kenya cannot afford to do so, even if it wanted too. OK, I got your point. However, there are a few million Somalis who live in Kenya (especially in NFD); the ICU can count on at least a minimal support from those Somalis. But most important, the ICU will count on the support of many Somalis in Somalia. Guerrilla war or insurgency is very difficult (if not near impossible) to contain. Bear in mind, arms and weapons are plentiful in Somalia. As for financial support, the ICU can count on a number of countries such as Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt and others. Financial support doesn't necessarily has to come from the governments of those countries; it could come from wealthy individual Muslims. The bottom line; Ethiopia isn't a rich and powerful country like the US that can wage counter guerrilla or insurgency war. Even the US with all its might and help from NATO is failing in Iraq and Afghanistan. What Ethiopia has set to prevent could as well materialize.

Originally posted by Somali_Friend: Taliban, since you like the name Taliban let me tell you as Taliban and not as Somalian. There is no Pakistan here in our neighborhood. The Taliban are from Afghanistan, not Pakistan. Nevertheless, bear in mind there was no Al-Qaida before the Iraq invasion. Now that Ethiopia has invaded Somalia, there's a real possibility of Pakistan coming to your neighborhood.

Originally posted by Captain Xalane: U mean that the clan courts didn't know this when they waged war on the Government? It doesn't matter whether the ICU knew it or not. The laws of nature state, for a defeat to occur, the strengths have to be equal or comparable. If a setback occurs, the party that had a setback comes back in the future with a strength x-times-fold.

Islamists Lose … For Now A hard-line Muslim government has fallen in Somalia, but the country's troubles show no sign of abating soon. Dec. 29, 2006 - Once again Mogadishu has fallen, and once again Somalia's troubles appear only to be beginning anew. This time Ethiopia is the invader, and the hardliners of the Islamic Courts Union (ICU) have fled the capital. But the new government still faces opposition. When Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi visited Mogadishu Friday, thousands of residents burned tires and blocked streets in protest, many apparently angry at the presence of Ethiopian troops. Gedi said Friday that the country will face three months of martial law as the new government attempts to restore security. Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, the ICU’s pro-al Qaeda spiritual leader, made it clear he planned to carry on a guerrilla war with Ethiopia as other Somalis did with the United States. In remarks to a NEWSWEEK reporter as he prepared to leave the capital on Wednesday, Aweys said, "I am going somewhere else in my country, and we will think of a way to overwhelm the enemy ... We will give them unprecedented lessons, as we did in 1993 [when the United States intervened in Mogadishu]." In remarks to reporters at the Mogadishu airport, the Courts' other main leader, the more moderate Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, vowed to "prolong the fighting and reach other countries and other cities." Sheikh Sharif had just arrived at the airport from a trip abroad, landing shortly after Ethiopian MIG jets bombed it, along with another airport outside the capital city, according to eyewitnesses reached by telephone. "We are quitting the city with our forces to avoid fighting over the people and destroying the city," he said. "Islamic court officials will not surrender, we will defend ourselves and defeat the enemy." Ethiopian troops, after a stunningly fast advance into Somalia only a week old, advanced into Mogadishu Friday with troops of the Transitional Federal Government of Somalia. The TFG is a confederation of former warlords that until Ethiopia's intervention had controlled only the remote, small city of Baidoa in the west of Somalia. But it had the backing of Western countries and the African Union. Ethiopia's intervention was sparked by an offensive on Baidoa by the ICU, seeking to reduce the last place in southern and central Somalia not under their control. With typical bravado, the Islamists vowed to carry the fight to Ethiopia, which has a large Somali ethnic region, the ******, over which the two countries have twice gone to war. Hard-line Courts members even threatened terrorist strikes against Ethiopian cities. "Ethiopia has a right to bomb the Islamist targets," said Saad Ali Jelle, the TFG's assistant defense minister, "because they want to start fighting in Ethiopia." As they fled, the Islamists turned over weapons to the warlords they had disarmed only six months earlier when they swept to power. The Courts' militiamen were believed to be taking refuge in Kismayo, in the south of the country, where hardline elements were still in control, and most roads had been cut off by recent floods. No sooner had the ICU left Mogadishu than warlords began carving up neighborhoods with roadblocks, and looting and armed robbery broke out throughout the city, with constant but sporadic gunfire. "The Mujahideen will defeat the enemy and Somalia will become an Ethiopian cemetery," said Courts spokesman Sheikh Mohamoud Ibrahim Suley, before fleeing himself. The retreat, he claimed, was a "war trick." But their fallback was clearly a major setback, as ill-trained militiamen, many of them adolescents, were unable to stand up to Ethiopia, which has the region's most formidable military. The ICU was so desperate as allied militia warlords abandoned them, that they canceled school classes so they could enlist hundreds of young boys to send into the fight. After only a few days of fighting, one provincial city after another fell as the TFG and Ethiopian forces advanced. Ethiopia had previously claimed only to have military advisers in Somalia with the TFG, but that pretense was dropped this week. In Addis Ababa, Ethiopian officials said they had no intention of remaining in Somalia. Sheikh Aweys, in his comments to NEWSWEEK, blamed the fighting on behind-the-scenes support by the United States for the Ethiopian offensive. "We believe USA is attacking Somalia—they funded the warlords who we defeated, and now they are pushing and funding Ethiopia,” he said. “I assure them that they will not succeed to occupy Somalia. We will not compromise our ambition to install an Islamic state, and Ethiopia will not remain much longer in Somalia. We will give them unprecedented lessons like we did in 1993." As the Islamists packed up in Mogadishu and other cities, they ran a last-minute recruiting drive and hundreds of young men signed up as jihadis, leaving with them as they fled. But many others were clearly happy to see the end of harsh Islamic rule, which had shut down movie theatres and even soccer matches, and outlawed not only alcohol but also the national pastime of chewing khat, a mild narcotic plant. Within hours of the city's fall, khat was back on sale openly in Mogadishu. In the city of Jawhar, west of the capital, one of the country's most notorious warlords, Mohammed Dhere, was back in charge as the Courts fled. He appeared in public, saying, "We got rid of the terrorists, now the people of Jawhar are free, open your cinemas, open your businesses, you are now under the care of the forces of the Transitional Federal Government." While many residents in Mogadishu welcomed the departure of the Islamists, there was also widespread resentment about the role of Ethiopia in toppling them—which may be why their forces remained outside the capital proper. "I feel like a Palestinian," said Madina Ali, a mother of five. "Even if they give us milk and honey, the Ethiopians are our enemies, we prefer death to becoming an Ethiopian colony." Barre Aden Shire, the TFG's defense minister, boasted that his forces backed by Ethiopia had killed 1,000 Islamists, and said, "We want to massacre the rest." But witnesses in the capital estimated that some 6,000 Courts militiamen had successfully fled to the south. "The fighting will not end as long as one of the terrorists remain in Somalia," Shire told reporters. That may be a very long time indeed. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16397766/site/newsweek/